CDZ Should Men Have “Abortion Rights”?

[Vastator]

Single No Married Yes
Single women have not joined into a legally binding agreement, marriage. Married women have and as part of a legal union the man should have a say (save medical reasons) in the course of action.

Then by that token should single women be denied abortions; in keeping with your ruling for men?

Single women are free to choose their course of action up to the legal point (as determined by the court) as to terminate. Men should have no say in the matter. Wraps it fohs ya taps it...bitches be triflin.

I think you misunderstand. This isn’t to say he can make her have an abortion. It proposes a legal mechanism that allows a man to abdicate responsibility for the baby carried to term. Just like women have the option, through abortion.

No...I have it correct...pre marriage no...post marriage yes.
He has no say pre, and he has a say post

The thread is about responsibility after the fact, not aborton.

MONEY

Quite possibly; but not necessarily. However the reason should be irrelevant. After all... Women aren’t made to declare a reason, before they receive an abortion.

 

[AVISSSER]

Then by that token should single women be denied abortions; in keeping with your ruling for men?

Single women are free to choose their course of action up to the legal point (as determined by the court) as to terminate. Men should have no say in the matter. Wraps it fohs ya taps it...bitches be triflin.

I think you misunderstand. This isn’t to say he can make her have an abortion. It proposes a legal mechanism that allows a man to abdicate responsibility for the baby carried to term. Just like women have the option, through abortion.

No...I have it correct...pre marriage no...post marriage yes.
He has no say pre, and he has a say post

The thread is about responsibility after the fact, not aborton.

MONEY

Quite possibly; but not necessarily. However the reason should be irrelevant. After all... Women aren’t made to declare a reason, before they receive an abortion.

Reasoning is immaterial to the law.

 

[MarkDuffy]

Then by that token should single women be denied abortions; in keeping with your ruling for men?

Single women are free to choose their course of action up to the legal point (as determined by the court) as to terminate. Men should have no say in the matter. Wraps it fohs ya taps it...bitches be triflin.

I think you misunderstand. This isn’t to say he can make her have an abortion. It proposes a legal mechanism that allows a man to abdicate responsibility for the baby carried to term. Just like women have the option, through abortion.

No...I have it correct...pre marriage no...post marriage yes.
He has no say pre, and he has a say post

The thread is about responsibility after the fact, not aborton.

MONEY

Quite possibly; but not necessarily. However the reason should be irrelevant. After all... Women aren’t made to declare a reason, before they receive an abortion.

Of course she gives a reason. She does not want a baby at this time!

 

[Vastator]

Single women are free to choose their course of action up to the legal point (as determined by the court) as to terminate. Men should have no say in the matter. Wraps it fohs ya taps it...bitches be triflin.

I think you misunderstand. This isn’t to say he can make her have an abortion. It proposes a legal mechanism that allows a man to abdicate responsibility for the baby carried to term. Just like women have the option, through abortion.

No...I have it correct...pre marriage no...post marriage yes.
He has no say pre, and he has a say post

The thread is about responsibility after the fact, not aborton.

MONEY

Quite possibly; but not necessarily. However the reason should be irrelevant. After all... Women aren’t made to declare a reason, before they receive an abortion.

Reasoning is immaterial to the law.

Precisely the point I’m making.

 

[Vastator]

Single women are free to choose their course of action up to the legal point (as determined by the court) as to terminate. Men should have no say in the matter. Wraps it fohs ya taps it...bitches be triflin.

I think you misunderstand. This isn’t to say he can make her have an abortion. It proposes a legal mechanism that allows a man to abdicate responsibility for the baby carried to term. Just like women have the option, through abortion.

No...I have it correct...pre marriage no...post marriage yes.
He has no say pre, and he has a say post

The thread is about responsibility after the fact, not aborton.

MONEY

Quite possibly; but not necessarily. However the reason should be irrelevant. After all... Women aren’t made to declare a reason, before they receive an abortion.

Of course she gives a reason. She does not want a baby at this time!

Enter equal rights before the law...

 

[AVISSSER]

So...in closing...gotta let a ho be a ho...and fellas...wrap that willie fohs ya goes cave diving.

THE END

 

[MarkDuffy]

Let's keep this all in perspective. We are talking the exceptions here.

Normally, the decision to have a child is a joint decision when single or married. Marriages are expected to last forever and made in good faith by both parties.

 

[MarkDuffy]

I think you misunderstand. This isn’t to say he can make her have an abortion. It proposes a legal mechanism that allows a man to abdicate responsibility for the baby carried to term. Just like women have the option, through abortion.

No...I have it correct...pre marriage no...post marriage yes.
He has no say pre, and he has a say post

The thread is about responsibility after the fact, not aborton.

MONEY

Quite possibly; but not necessarily. However the reason should be irrelevant. After all... Women aren’t made to declare a reason, before they receive an abortion.

Of course she gives a reason. She does not want a baby at this time!

Enter equal rights before the law...

He is not the pregnant one. He has no rights if the woman decides to throw the baby into the trash.

We outlawed slavery last century.

My Pro-Choice stand is pretty solid. If the baby is unwanted, kill it. Too many destroyed lives from unwanted babies.

 

[Vastator]

No...I have it correct...pre marriage no...post marriage yes.
He has no say pre, and he has a say post

The thread is about responsibility after the fact, not aborton.

MONEY

Quite possibly; but not necessarily. However the reason should be irrelevant. After all... Women aren’t made to declare a reason, before they receive an abortion.

Of course she gives a reason. She does not want a baby at this time!

Enter equal rights before the law...

He is not the pregnant one. He has no rights if the woman decides to throw the baby into the trash.

As it legally stands, as of now; “yes”. That’s true. But that really isn’t the point. The point is; that as a 50% contributer to the pregnancy; the law allows a means for the woman to alleviate herself of the responsibility of having the child, and thus the care and support that such entails. The other 50% contributer needs to have a similar legal recourse. We do pride our system on “fairness” after all.

 

[Windparadox]

My advice to men who don't want to get stuck with paying for a kid they don't want is to not get a woman pregnant in the first place. That means no man should ever trust any woman to be in charge of birth control.

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That will change now that Trump has allowed insurance companies to "opt-out" on providing mandatory birth control.

 

[Syriusly]

Since women have the legal right to dodge the responsibility of an unwanted pregnancy; shouldn’t men be given that same legal consideration? Whereby if a woman claims to have been impregnated by a man; that man should have the right to file a claim in court absolving him of responsibility for that mass of tissue, from that moment forward.

If yes; hit agree. If not; but the woman should still have the right to an abortion; explain why...

GO!!!

I am all in favor of you having the right to have or not to have an abortion of any fetus inside your body.

 

[Syriusly]

The thread is about responsibility after the fact, not aborton.

MONEY

Quite possibly; but not necessarily. However the reason should be irrelevant. After all... Women aren’t made to declare a reason, before they receive an abortion.

Of course she gives a reason. She does not want a baby at this time!

Enter equal rights before the law...

He is not the pregnant one. He has no rights if the woman decides to throw the baby into the trash.

As it legally stands, as of now; “yes”. That’s true. But that really isn’t the point. The point is; that as a 50% contributer to the pregnancy; the law allows a means for the woman to alleviate herself of the responsibility of having the child, and thus the care and support that such entails. The other 50% contributer needs to have a similar legal recourse. We do pride our system on “fairness” after all.

As soon as a man contributes to 50% of carrying a fetus to term in his body- and has 50% of the pain of childbirth- sure.

 

[MarkDuffy]

The thread is about responsibility after the fact, not aborton.

MONEY

Quite possibly; but not necessarily. However the reason should be irrelevant. After all... Women aren’t made to declare a reason, before they receive an abortion.

Of course she gives a reason. She does not want a baby at this time!

Enter equal rights before the law...

He is not the pregnant one. He has no rights if the woman decides to throw the baby into the trash.

As it legally stands, as of now; “yes”. That’s true. But that really isn’t the point. The point is; that as a 50% contributer to the pregnancy; the law allows a means for the woman to alleviate herself of the responsibility of having the child, and thus the care and support that such entails. The other 50% contributer needs to have a similar legal recourse. We do pride our system on “fairness” after all.

We are not arguing this. We are in agreement.

 

[AVISSSER]

If the baby is unwanted, kill it. Too many destroyed lives from unwanted babies.

 

[Vastator]

Quite possibly; but not necessarily. However the reason should be irrelevant. After all... Women aren’t made to declare a reason, before they receive an abortion.

Of course she gives a reason. She does not want a baby at this time!

Enter equal rights before the law...

He is not the pregnant one. He has no rights if the woman decides to throw the baby into the trash.

As it legally stands, as of now; “yes”. That’s true. But that really isn’t the point. The point is; that as a 50% contributer to the pregnancy; the law allows a means for the woman to alleviate herself of the responsibility of having the child, and thus the care and support that such entails. The other 50% contributer needs to have a similar legal recourse. We do pride our system on “fairness” after all.

As soon as a man contributes to 50% of carrying a fetus to term in his body- and has 50% of the pain of childbirth- sure.

That’s a red herring. The responsibility of child rearing is at the very least 18 years.

 

[MarkDuffy]

Abortion lowers the number of unwanted children.

I demand it be safe legal and rare

 

[JoeMoma]

Abortion lowers the number of unwanted children.

I demand it be safe legal and rare

If children are unwanted.....kill em.

 

[Unkotare]

No...I have it correct...pre marriage no...post marriage yes.
He has no say pre, and he has a say post

The thread is about responsibility after the fact, not aborton.

MONEY

Quite possibly; but not necessarily. However the reason should be irrelevant. After all... Women aren’t made to declare a reason, before they receive an abortion.

Of course she gives a reason. She does not want a baby at this time!

Enter equal rights before the law...

He is not the pregnant one. He has no rights if the woman decides to throw the baby into the trash.

We outlawed slavery last century.

My Pro-Choice stand is pretty solid. If the baby is unwanted, kill it. Too many destroyed lives from unwanted babies.

And if YOU are unwanted?

 

[MarkDuffy]

Abortion lowers the number of unwanted children.

I demand it be safe legal and rare

If children are unwanted.....kill em.

Let's pay attention now.

I use the pro-lifeAnti-Mom language. Cuz it saves useless arguments about life, when human, etc that the others come up with. It's just easier to talk on their terms.

For thinking people insert fetus.

 

[JoeMoma]

Abortion lowers the number of unwanted children.

I demand it be safe legal and rare

If children are unwanted.....kill em.

Let's pay attention now.

I use the pro-lifeAnti-Mom language. For thinking people insert fetus.