Sharia Versus the US Constitution

It appears more and more advocates are trying to introduce Sharia into the US legal system. Fortunately, it appears that appeals courts are turning them away. It is, however, a sign of the incessant efforts of Muslim legal scholars to try to expand the authority of their beliefs on our American system of jurisprudence.


Get a toe in the door, and the foot follows, soon with the rest of the body inside your home.


Read the full story – with links - @ Shariah in American Courts The Expanding Incursion of Islamic Law in the U.S. Legal System Creeping Sharia


Really? You actually believe this crap put out by Frank Gaffney? This guy is so crazy till he was even banned from far-right Conservative Political Action Conference events after accusing two of its organizers of being agents of the Muslim Brotherhood. The man sees Muslims hiding under his kitchen cabinets. A real nutbag's nutbag.
 
In the US? I don't believe it. Name one
Dearborn, hell the local cops refused to protect a march by Christians that had a legal permit, they arrested them and refused to arrest the Muslims beating them with rocks and bottles.
Bold claim. Can you back it up?
Learn what Sharia entails then read the amendments.
Again, can you back your claim about Dearborn?
Look it up it was in the news and several threads were started here. I am not your servant.

Sure, but the nutbag threads and so called news that you watch is nothing but crazies listening to their own jaws flap. Come up with a credible link or STFU.
 
Sure, but the nutbag threads and so called news that you watch is nothing but crazies listening to their own jaws flap. Come up with a credible link or STFU.

It must be difficult living in a world where any report that does not shed a glowing light on Islam is either by nut cases or crazies.

People speaking about the crude, barbaric, murderous cult are but trying to warn the uneducated of what can happen if they/we don't wake up to what Muslims are trying to do.
 
Sure, but the nutbag threads and so called news that you watch is nothing but crazies listening to their own jaws flap. Come up with a credible link or STFU.

It must be difficult living in a world where any report that does not shed a glowing light on Islam is either by nut cases or crazies.

People speaking about the crude, barbaric, murderous cult are but trying to warn the uneducated of what can happen if they/we don't wake up to what Muslims are trying to do.


Anybody who believes there is actually a chance for Sharia law to become used in American courts is by definition a nutbag.
 
This fails as a slippery slope fallacy.

It's also ignorant and unfounded – there is no 'creeping Sharia,' the notion is ridiculous demagoguery.

Any civil agreements or settlements are subject to the contract law of the state where the settlement is made, and any contract that does not comport with that law will be rendered invalid by state courts.


You must be entirely ignorant of the modus operandi of Islamists who are attempting in the United States what they have already achieved in Britain.

What, specifically, are have they attempted?
 
This fails as a slippery slope fallacy.

It's also ignorant and unfounded – there is no 'creeping Sharia,' the notion is ridiculous demagoguery.

Any civil agreements or settlements are subject to the contract law of the state where the settlement is made, and any contract that does not comport with that law will be rendered invalid by state courts.


You must be entirely ignorant of the modus operandi of Islamists who are attempting in the United States what they have already achieved in Britain.

What, specifically, are have they attempted?
and What they have already achieved in Britain? :alcoholic:
 
and What they have already achieved in Britain? :alcoholic:

Well, for starters, sharia family law is now being operated with the full backing of the British legal system even though it denies due process to women by very design and implementation.

As long as a Muslim woman can be beaten down and coerced into saying it was her "choice" to use the system (or face getting cut up or killed), the British are just fine with it.
 
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and What they have already achieved in Britain? :alcoholic:

Well, for starters, sharia family law is now being operated with the full backing of the British legal system even tough it denies due process to women by very design and implementation.

As long as a Muslim woman can be beaten down and coerced into saying it was her "choice" to use the system (or face getting cut up or killed), the British are just fine with it.

what the heck are you talking about? that is nuts. :cuckoo:

You should not be let out of the house without a collar and chain.
 
and What they have already achieved in Britain? :alcoholic:

Well, for starters, sharia family law is now being operated with the full backing of the British legal system even tough it denies due process to women by very design and implementation.

As long as a Muslim woman can be beaten down and coerced into saying it was her "choice" to use the system (or face getting cut up or killed), the British are just fine with it.
You got a credible link to that?
 
Oh my! Pat Robertson Islamic Sharia Law Comes to Great Britain - World - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

The DailyMail plays with words: Sharia Law to be in British legal system as lawyers get guidelines Islamic rules Daily Mail Online

then we Fact Check: FactCheck Q A sharia law in the UK The FactCheck Blog The FactCheck Blog

No Islamic body has any jurisdiction in the criminal law, despite newspaper reports of informal councils of elders settling criminal cases in some Muslim communities.

We don’t even know if the details of this story are correct, or how accurate it is to describe this as the work of a “sharia court” - let alone whether it happens regularly.
 
what the heck are you talking about? that is nuts. :cuckoo:

You should not be let out of the house without a collar and chain.


Just because you are profoundly ignortant, that doesn't make ME the crazy one. Islamic sharia courts in Britain are now legally binding Daily Mail Online

Though I do appreciate your kind offer to indulge in that S & M fantasy of yours.
Okay a link from the DailyMail in 2008

Dante posted multiple links and a DailyMail one from 2012. You just want to inflame and ignore everything
 
Oh my! Pat Robertson Islamic Sharia Law Comes to Great Britain - World - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

The DailyMail plays with words: Sharia Law to be in British legal system as lawyers get guidelines Islamic rules Daily Mail Online

then we Fact Check: FactCheck Q A sharia law in the UK The FactCheck Blog The FactCheck Blog

No Islamic body has any jurisdiction in the criminal law, despite newspaper reports of informal councils of elders settling criminal cases in some Muslim communities.

We don’t even know if the details of this story are correct, or how accurate it is to describe this as the work of a “sharia court” - let alone whether it happens regularly.


I didn't say criminal law,. moron. I said "family courts".

In matters of custody, legal inheritance and rights within marriage, women are second class citizens under Sharia.
 
and What they have already achieved in Britain? :alcoholic:

Well, for starters, sharia family law is now being operated with the full backing of the British legal system even tough it denies due process to women by very design and implementation.

As long as a Muslim woman can be beaten down and coerced into saying it was her "choice" to use the system (or face getting cut up or killed), the British are just fine with it.
You got a credible link to that?
Dante posted a few links in a few posts close by this one. The dogoileoshit is only playing games.
 
Oh my! Pat Robertson Islamic Sharia Law Comes to Great Britain - World - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

The DailyMail plays with words: Sharia Law to be in British legal system as lawyers get guidelines Islamic rules Daily Mail Online

then we Fact Check: FactCheck Q A sharia law in the UK The FactCheck Blog The FactCheck Blog

No Islamic body has any jurisdiction in the criminal law, despite newspaper reports of informal councils of elders settling criminal cases in some Muslim communities.

We don’t even know if the details of this story are correct, or how accurate it is to describe this as the work of a “sharia court” - let alone whether it happens regularly.


I didn't say criminal law,. moron. I said "family courts".

In matters of custody, legal inheritance and rights within marriage, women are second class citizens under Sharia.
Women are second class citizens in most of the world and have been so in GB and America

Leave people alone. Let them make their own wills. Stop demanding society get involved in the most personal of life's decisions. What next, spying on what Muslims do in bedrooms?
 
Leave people alone. Let them make their own wills. Stop demanding society get involved in the most personal of life's decisions. What next, spying on what Muslims do in bedrooms?


Since you obviously do not believe in equality before the law, perhaps you should move to a country more in line with your way of thinking instead of staying here and trying to undermine liberal, western values.

Considering all the myriad matters under dispute in cases of child custody, divorce and inheritance, the notion that society should not be involved is incredibly childish, stupid and naive.
 
Leave people alone. Let them make their own wills. Stop demanding society get involved in the most personal of life's decisions. What next, spying on what Muslims do in bedrooms?
Since you obviously do not believe in equality before the law, perhaps you should move to a country more in line with your way of thinking instead of staying here and trying to undermine liberal, western values.

Considering all the myriad matters under dispute in cases of child custody, divorce and inheritance, the notion that society should not be involved is incredibly childish, stupid and naive.

equality before the law when facing charges. Unlike in the UK, we in America have a tradition of separation of church and state
 
and What they have already achieved in Britain? :alcoholic:

Well, for starters, sharia family law is now being operated with the full backing of the British legal system even though it denies due process to women by very design and implementation.

I think (and correct me if I'm wrong here by providing examples) that Sharia family law is set up similar to the way other forms of voluntary religious and indidginous people's civil systems are in the US. They can not, for example, over-rule the nation's laws or Constitution. They are usually voluntarily entered into for marriage, inheritance, contracts, banking, divorce or mediation of disputes using religious law. It does not include criminal law.

As long as a Muslim woman can be beaten down and coerced into saying it was her "choice" to use the system (or face getting cut up or killed), the British are just fine with it.

Coercion is always possible, but really, that can occur with Talmudic law (and keep in mind, women's status is little different have a very low status in Orthodox or Hassidic Judiasm, as well as a wide variety of Christian sects. In fact, any religion that emphasis a subordinate status for women opens the door to "righteous" domestic abuse. It also is important to realize that is covers only civil law - criminal offenses are still criminal and that this voluntary agreement to use religious law or civil matters is not limited to Sharia but includes Talmudic law for certain Jewish groups, Amish law for the Amish community, as a few examples.

Is it really that damaging?
 

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