Sharia Versus the US Constitution

[ogibillm]

Ummmm, that's specifically what was referenced in that old "separation of church and state" thingy. Are you really this dense?

Not all aspects of sharia are about religion

The law is all based on religious precepts, thus it most certainly is relevant.

So if a religion has a rule about something a similar secular law is forbidden?

Sharia is administered by Imams. Who are they again?


"Sharia law is the law of Islam. The Sharia (also spelled Shariah or Shari'a) law is cast from the actions and words of Muhammad, which are called "Sunnah," and the Quran, which he authored.
The Sharia law itself cannot be altered, but the interpretation of the Sharia law, called "figh," by imams is given some leeway.

As a legal system, the Sharia law covers a very wide range of topics. While other legal codes deal primarily with public behavior, Sharia law covers public behavior, private behavior and private beliefs. Of all legal systems in the world today, Islam's Sharia law is the most intrusive and strict, especially against women."

SHARIA LAW - Islamic Sharia Law Explained

I don't believe anyone is talking about putting imams in charge of the legal system. You know that though

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Ummmm, that's specifically what was referenced in that old "separation of church and state" thingy. Are you really this dense?

Not all aspects of sharia are about religion

The law is all based on religious precepts, thus it most certainly is relevant.

So if a religion has a rule about something a similar secular law is forbidden?

Sharia is administered by Imams. Who are they again?


"Sharia law is the law of Islam. The Sharia (also spelled Shariah or Shari'a) law is cast from the actions and words of Muhammad, which are called "Sunnah," and the Quran, which he authored.
The Sharia law itself cannot be altered, but the interpretation of the Sharia law, called "figh," by imams is given some leeway.

As a legal system, the Sharia law covers a very wide range of topics. While other legal codes deal primarily with public behavior, Sharia law covers public behavior, private behavior and private beliefs. Of all legal systems in the world today, Islam's Sharia law is the most intrusive and strict, especially against women."

SHARIA LAW - Islamic Sharia Law Explained

I don't believe anyone is talking about putting imams in charge of the legal system. You know that though

you give people too much credit

 

[SAYIT]

Do you doubt the existence of creeping Sharia?

Yes

Ummmm, that's specifically what was referenced in that old "separation of church and state" thingy. Are you really this dense?

Not all aspects of sharia are about religion

The law is all based on religious precepts, thus it most certainly is relevant.

So if a religion has a rule about something a similar secular law is forbidden?

Sharia is administered by Imams. Who are they again?


"Sharia law is the law of Islam. The Sharia (also spelled Shariah or Shari'a) law is cast from the actions and words of Muhammad, which are called "Sunnah," and the Quran, which he authored.
The Sharia law itself cannot be altered, but the interpretation of the Sharia law, called "figh," by imams is given some leeway.

As a legal system, the Sharia law covers a very wide range of topics. While other legal codes deal primarily with public behavior, Sharia law covers public behavior, private behavior and private beliefs. Of all legal systems in the world today, Islam's Sharia law is the most intrusive and strict, especially against women."

SHARIA LAW - Islamic Sharia Law Explained

I don't believe anyone is talking about putting imams in charge of the legal system. You know that though

That's why they call it creeping Sharia. There are places, believe it or not, in which Sharia and imams are the law of the land.

 

[ogibillm]

Do you doubt the existence of creeping Sharia?

Yes

Not all aspects of sharia are about religion

The law is all based on religious precepts, thus it most certainly is relevant.

So if a religion has a rule about something a similar secular law is forbidden?

Sharia is administered by Imams. Who are they again?


"Sharia law is the law of Islam. The Sharia (also spelled Shariah or Shari'a) law is cast from the actions and words of Muhammad, which are called "Sunnah," and the Quran, which he authored.
The Sharia law itself cannot be altered, but the interpretation of the Sharia law, called "figh," by imams is given some leeway.

As a legal system, the Sharia law covers a very wide range of topics. While other legal codes deal primarily with public behavior, Sharia law covers public behavior, private behavior and private beliefs. Of all legal systems in the world today, Islam's Sharia law is the most intrusive and strict, especially against women."

SHARIA LAW - Islamic Sharia Law Explained

I don't believe anyone is talking about putting imams in charge of the legal system. You know that though

That's why they call it creeping Sharia. There are places, believe it or not, in which Sharia and imams are the law of the land.

In the US? I don't believe it. Name one

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Do you doubt the existence of creeping Sharia?

Yes

Not all aspects of sharia are about religion

The law is all based on religious precepts, thus it most certainly is relevant.

So if a religion has a rule about something a similar secular law is forbidden?

Sharia is administered by Imams. Who are they again?


"Sharia law is the law of Islam. The Sharia (also spelled Shariah or Shari'a) law is cast from the actions and words of Muhammad, which are called "Sunnah," and the Quran, which he authored.
The Sharia law itself cannot be altered, but the interpretation of the Sharia law, called "figh," by imams is given some leeway.

As a legal system, the Sharia law covers a very wide range of topics. While other legal codes deal primarily with public behavior, Sharia law covers public behavior, private behavior and private beliefs. Of all legal systems in the world today, Islam's Sharia law is the most intrusive and strict, especially against women."

SHARIA LAW - Islamic Sharia Law Explained

I don't believe anyone is talking about putting imams in charge of the legal system. You know that though

That's why they call it creeping Sharia. There are places, believe it or not, in which Sharia and imams are the law of the land.

really? Oh my! So friggin what? Not in the USA

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It appears more and more advocates are trying to introduce Sharia into the US legal system. Fortunately, it appears that appeals courts are turning them away. It is, however, a sign of the incessant efforts of Muslim legal scholars to try to expand the authority of their beliefs on our American system of jurisprudence.


Get a toe in the door, and the foot follows, soon with the rest of the body inside your home.


Read the full story – with links - @ Shariah in American Courts The Expanding Incursion of Islamic Law in the U.S. Legal System Creeping Sharia

This fails as a slippery slope fallacy.

It's also ignorant and unfounded – there is no 'creeping Sharia,' the notion is ridiculous demagoguery.

Any civil agreements or settlements are subject to the contract law of the state where the settlement is made, and any contract that does not comport with that law will be rendered invalid by state courts.

 

[whitehall]

Be careful what you wish for. If Sharia law is ever tolerated in the U.S. there won't be a sissie left in the democrat party.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Loony Liberalism kills brain cells.

Those who are actually liberal would be the first in line to condemn sharia, not defend it.

These useful idiots of the left are something quite different than liberal, since sharia represents the very antithesis of liberalism. There are certainly lots of them on the internet, and they are certainly lunatics in their knee jerk defense of Islamism, but liberals they are most definitely not. They are simply ultra conformist sheeple who have been conditioned to say what they say by a simple rewards/punishment system. If they support Islamism, they get high fives from all their mindless peeps. If they oppose it, they get called a racist.

 

[007]

It appears more and more advocates are trying to introduce Sharia into the US legal system. Fortunately, it appears that appeals courts are turning them away. It is, however, a sign of the incessant efforts of Muslim legal scholars to try to expand the authority of their beliefs on our American system of jurisprudence.


Get a toe in the door, and the foot follows, soon with the rest of the body inside your home.


Read the full story – with links - @ Shariah in American Courts The Expanding Incursion of Islamic Law in the U.S. Legal System Creeping Sharia

Where does it say in the Constitution that a state could not put Sharia Law in place?

 

[007]

Loony Liberalism kills brain cells.

Those who are actually liberal would be the first in line to condemn sharia, not defend it.

These useful idiots of the left are something quite different than liberal, since sharia represents the very antithesis of liberalism. There are certainly lots of them on the internet, and they are certainly lunatics in their knee jerk defense of Islamism, but liberals they are most definitely not. They are simply ultra conformist sheeple who have been conditioned to say what they say by a simple rewards/punishment system. If they support Islamism, they get high fives from all their mindless peeps. If they oppose it, they get called a racist.

GROUP THINK.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

This fails as a slippery slope fallacy.

It's also ignorant and unfounded – there is no 'creeping Sharia,' the notion is ridiculous demagoguery.

Any civil agreements or settlements are subject to the contract law of the state where the settlement is made, and any contract that does not comport with that law will be rendered invalid by state courts.

You must be entirely ignorant of the modus operandi of Islamists who are attempting in the United States what they have already achieved in Britain.

 

[007]

This fails as a slippery slope fallacy.

You think the French are thinking the same thing this morning?

It sure the hell does NOT fail the "slippery slope" test, but you sure as hell DO PASS the "ignorant, apathetic" test.

I hope there aren't many people around you that have to hear you talk. You are one stupid sons a bitch.

 

[longknife]

Where does it say in the Constitution that a state could not put Sharia Law in place?

From Wiki -

The United States Constitution addresses the issue of religion in two places: in the First Amendment, and the Article VI prohibition on religious tests as a condition for holding public office. The First Amendment prohibits the federal government from making a law "respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". This provision was later expanded to state and local governments, through the Incorporation of the Fourteenth Amendment.

As Sharia is an interpretation of the Quaran and a tenet of Islam, it has no place in the legal system of the United States. Therefore, trying to impose Sharia at any level is unconstitutional.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

This fails as a slippery slope fallacy.

You think the French are thinking the same thing this morning?

appeals to emotion are about as ignorant and stupid as it gets

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Where does it say in the Constitution that a state could not put Sharia Law in place?

From Wiki -

The United States Constitution addresses the issue of religion in two places: in the First Amendment, and the Article VI prohibition on religious tests as a condition for holding public office. The First Amendment prohibits the federal government from making a law "respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". This provision was later expanded to state and local governments, through the Incorporation of the Fourteenth Amendment.

As Sharia is an interpretation of the Quaran and a tenet of Islam, it has no place in the legal system of the United States. Therefore, trying to impose Sharia at any level is unconstitutional.

No one has seriously tried imposing Sharia Law through the American judicial system, so this inane Sharia versus the USC is silly

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Do you doubt the existence of creeping Sharia?

Yes

The law is all based on religious precepts, thus it most certainly is relevant.

So if a religion has a rule about something a similar secular law is forbidden?

Sharia is administered by Imams. Who are they again?


"Sharia law is the law of Islam. The Sharia (also spelled Shariah or Shari'a) law is cast from the actions and words of Muhammad, which are called "Sunnah," and the Quran, which he authored.
The Sharia law itself cannot be altered, but the interpretation of the Sharia law, called "figh," by imams is given some leeway.

As a legal system, the Sharia law covers a very wide range of topics. While other legal codes deal primarily with public behavior, Sharia law covers public behavior, private behavior and private beliefs. Of all legal systems in the world today, Islam's Sharia law is the most intrusive and strict, especially against women."

SHARIA LAW - Islamic Sharia Law Explained

I don't believe anyone is talking about putting imams in charge of the legal system. You know that though

That's why they call it creeping Sharia. There are places, believe it or not, in which Sharia and imams are the law of the land.

In the US? I don't believe it. Name one

Dearborn, hell the local cops refused to protect a march by Christians that had a legal permit, they arrested them and refused to arrest the Muslims beating them with rocks and bottles.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Sharia law - government enacting invasive laws based on religious beliefs -

- Like fundies pushing their anti-Constitution agenda against marriage equality and abortion.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Do you doubt the existence of creeping Sharia?

Yes

So if a religion has a rule about something a similar secular law is forbidden?

Sharia is administered by Imams. Who are they again?

"Sharia law is the law of Islam. The Sharia (also spelled Shariah or Shari'a) law is cast from the actions and words of Muhammad, which are called "Sunnah," and the Quran, which he authored.
The Sharia law itself cannot be altered, but the interpretation of the Sharia law, called "figh," by imams is given some leeway.

As a legal system, the Sharia law covers a very wide range of topics. While other legal codes deal primarily with public behavior, Sharia law covers public behavior, private behavior and private beliefs. Of all legal systems in the world today, Islam's Sharia law is the most intrusive and strict, especially against women."

SHARIA LAW - Islamic Sharia Law Explained

I don't believe anyone is talking about putting imams in charge of the legal system. You know that though

That's why they call it creeping Sharia. There are places, believe it or not, in which Sharia and imams are the law of the land.

In the US? I don't believe it. Name one

Dearborn, hell the local cops refused to protect a march by Christians that had a legal permit, they arrested them and refused to arrest the Muslims beating them with rocks and bottles.

link?

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

RetiredGySgt

Do you doubt the existence of creeping Sharia?

Yes

Sharia is administered by Imams. Who are they again?

"Sharia law is the law of Islam. The Sharia (also spelled Shariah or Shari'a) law is cast from the actions and words of Muhammad, which are called "Sunnah," and the Quran, which he authored.
The Sharia law itself cannot be altered, but the interpretation of the Sharia law, called "figh," by imams is given some leeway.

As a legal system, the Sharia law covers a very wide range of topics. While other legal codes deal primarily with public behavior, Sharia law covers public behavior, private behavior and private beliefs. Of all legal systems in the world today, Islam's Sharia law is the most intrusive and strict, especially against women."

SHARIA LAW - Islamic Sharia Law Explained

I don't believe anyone is talking about putting imams in charge of the legal system. You know that though

That's why they call it creeping Sharia. There are places, believe it or not, in which Sharia and imams are the law of the land.

In the US? I don't believe it. Name one

Dearborn, hell the local cops refused to protect a march by Christians that had a legal permit, they arrested them and refused to arrest the Muslims beating them with rocks and bottles.

link?

link?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Group up, wankers.

We have a few loony libertarians like The Rabbi, 007, etc., who are caught in Group Think. They are no threat.

We have a few loony Mises followers like EdwardBaiamonte. They are no threat.

We have a few loonies like Sil, Beagle9, Newby, etc., who want to stop marriage equality. They are no threat.

We have a few loonies among the Christian Dominionists who want to turn South Carolina into the Inquisition. They are no threat.

Creeping Sharia is like creeping McCarthyism. Nothing to worry about.