Sgt Shamar Thomas, USMC

[Texanmike]

I'm sorry but Thomas is just wrong. First of all, he is not supposed to use the military uniform to support or to endorse his political cause. He should not be at a political rally in uniform and it should not be a part of political expression. Second, he is not an active duty Marine. Unless he is retired, he does not have the auhtority to wear his military uniform unless expressly authorized.

You can wear your uniform if you separate from the service, I see people do that all the time.

You are wrong. There are a few exceptions but I am quite sure they do not apply here. Unless he is retired he is not authorized to wear it without some very strict exceptions. Furthermore, if he were active duty he would not be authorized to wear it in that capacity.

Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of
the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may
wear -
(1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the
Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or
(2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive
part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine
Corps.

(a) Except as provided in subsections (b) and (c), when an
enlisted member of an armed force is discharged, the exterior
articles of uniform in his possession that were issued to him,
other than those that he may wear from the place of discharge to
his home under section 772(d) of this title, shall be retained for
military use.
(b) When an enlisted member of an armed force is discharged for
bad conduct, undesirability, unsuitability, inaptitude, or
otherwise than honorably -
(1) the exterior articles of uniform in his possession shall be
retained for military use;
(2) under such regulations as the Secretary concerned
prescribes, a suit of civilian clothing and an overcoat when
necessary, both to cost not more than $30, may be issued to him;
and
(3) if he would be otherwise without funds to meet his
immediate needs, he may be paid an amount, fixed by the Secretary
concerned, of not more than $25.

(c) When an enlisted member of the Army National Guard or the Air
National Guard who has been called into Federal service is released
from that service, the exterior articles of uniform in his
possession shall be accounted for as property issued to the Army
National Guard or the Air National Guard, as the case may be, of
the State or territory, Puerto Rico, or the District of Columbia of
whose Army National Guard or Air National Guard he is a member, as
prescribed in section 708 of title 32.

Sec. 772. When wearing by persons not on active duty authorized

-STATUTE-
(a) A member of the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard
may wear the uniform prescribed for the Army National Guard or the
Air National Guard, as the case may be.
(b) A member of the Naval Militia may wear the uniform prescribed
for the Naval Militia.
(c) A retired officer of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine
Corps may bear the title and wear the uniform of his retired grade.
(d) A person who is discharged honorably or under honorable
conditions from the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may wear
his uniform while going from the place of discharge to his home,
within three months after his discharge.
(e) A person not on active duty who served honorably in time of
war in the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may bear the
title, and, when authorized by regulations prescribed by the
President, wear the uniform, of the highest grade held by him
during that war.
(f) While portraying a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or
Marine Corps, an actor in a theatrical or motion-picture production
may wear the uniform of that armed force if the portrayal does not
tend to discredit that armed force.
(g) An officer or resident of a veterans' home administered by
the Department of Veterans Affairs may wear such uniform as the
Secretary of the military department concerned may prescribe.
(h) While attending a course of military instruction conducted by
the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, a civilian may wear the
uniform prescribed by that armed force if the wear of such uniform
is specifically authorized under regulations prescribed by the
Secretary of the military department concerned.
(i) Under such regulations as the Secretary of the Air Force may
prescribe, a citizen of a foreign country who graduates from an Air
Force school may wear the appropriate aviation badges of the Air
Force.
(j) A person in any of the following categories may wear the
uniform prescribed for that category:
(1) Members of the Boy Scouts of America.
(2) Members of any other organization designated by the
Secretary of a military department.

Think before you speak. Look up before you write.

Mike

 

[Photonic]

I'm sorry but Thomas is just wrong. First of all, he is not supposed to use the military uniform to support or to endorse his political cause. He should not be at a political rally in uniform and it should not be a part of political expression. Second, he is not an active duty Marine. Unless he is retired, he does not have the auhtority to wear his military uniform unless expressly authorized.

You can wear your uniform if you separate from the service, I see people do that all the time.

You are wrong. There are a few exceptions but I am quite sure they do not apply here. Unless he is retired he is not authorized to wear it without some very strict exceptions. Furthermore, if he were active duty he would not be authorized to wear it in that capacity.


Mike

This.

 

[High_Gravity]

I'm sorry but Thomas is just wrong. First of all, he is not supposed to use the military uniform to support or to endorse his political cause. He should not be at a political rally in uniform and it should not be a part of political expression. Second, he is not an active duty Marine. Unless he is retired, he does not have the auhtority to wear his military uniform unless expressly authorized.

You can wear your uniform if you separate from the service, I see people do that all the time.

You are wrong. There are a few exceptions but I am quite sure they do not apply here. Unless he is retired he is not authorized to wear it without some very strict exceptions. Furthermore, if he were active duty he would not be authorized to wear it in that capacity.

Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of
the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may
wear -
(1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the
Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or
(2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive
part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine
Corps.

(a) Except as provided in subsections (b) and (c), when an
enlisted member of an armed force is discharged, the exterior
articles of uniform in his possession that were issued to him,
other than those that he may wear from the place of discharge to
his home under section 772(d) of this title, shall be retained for
military use.
(b) When an enlisted member of an armed force is discharged for
bad conduct, undesirability, unsuitability, inaptitude, or
otherwise than honorably -
(1) the exterior articles of uniform in his possession shall be
retained for military use;
(2) under such regulations as the Secretary concerned
prescribes, a suit of civilian clothing and an overcoat when
necessary, both to cost not more than $30, may be issued to him;
and
(3) if he would be otherwise without funds to meet his
immediate needs, he may be paid an amount, fixed by the Secretary
concerned, of not more than $25.

(c) When an enlisted member of the Army National Guard or the Air
National Guard who has been called into Federal service is released
from that service, the exterior articles of uniform in his
possession shall be accounted for as property issued to the Army
National Guard or the Air National Guard, as the case may be, of
the State or territory, Puerto Rico, or the District of Columbia of
whose Army National Guard or Air National Guard he is a member, as
prescribed in section 708 of title 32.

Sec. 772. When wearing by persons not on active duty authorized

-STATUTE-
(a) A member of the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard
may wear the uniform prescribed for the Army National Guard or the
Air National Guard, as the case may be.
(b) A member of the Naval Militia may wear the uniform prescribed
for the Naval Militia.
(c) A retired officer of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine
Corps may bear the title and wear the uniform of his retired grade.
(d) A person who is discharged honorably or under honorable
conditions from the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may wear
his uniform while going from the place of discharge to his home,
within three months after his discharge.
(e) A person not on active duty who served honorably in time of
war in the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may bear the
title, and, when authorized by regulations prescribed by the
President, wear the uniform, of the highest grade held by him
during that war.
(f) While portraying a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or
Marine Corps, an actor in a theatrical or motion-picture production
may wear the uniform of that armed force if the portrayal does not
tend to discredit that armed force.
(g) An officer or resident of a veterans' home administered by
the Department of Veterans Affairs may wear such uniform as the
Secretary of the military department concerned may prescribe.
(h) While attending a course of military instruction conducted by
the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, a civilian may wear the
uniform prescribed by that armed force if the wear of such uniform
is specifically authorized under regulations prescribed by the
Secretary of the military department concerned.
(i) Under such regulations as the Secretary of the Air Force may
prescribe, a citizen of a foreign country who graduates from an Air
Force school may wear the appropriate aviation badges of the Air
Force.
(j) A person in any of the following categories may wear the
uniform prescribed for that category:
(1) Members of the Boy Scouts of America.
(2) Members of any other organization designated by the
Secretary of a military department.

Think before you speak. Look up before you write.

Mike

So who enforces this rule? I don't see anyone arresting these guys who wear their old uniforms when they show up to these protests.

 

[Photonic]

You can wear your uniform if you separate from the service, I see people do that all the time.

You are wrong. There are a few exceptions but I am quite sure they do not apply here. Unless he is retired he is not authorized to wear it without some very strict exceptions. Furthermore, if he were active duty he would not be authorized to wear it in that capacity.

Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of
the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may
wear -
(1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the
Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or
(2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive
part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine
Corps.

(a) Except as provided in subsections (b) and (c), when an
enlisted member of an armed force is discharged, the exterior
articles of uniform in his possession that were issued to him,
other than those that he may wear from the place of discharge to
his home under section 772(d) of this title, shall be retained for
military use.
(b) When an enlisted member of an armed force is discharged for
bad conduct, undesirability, unsuitability, inaptitude, or
otherwise than honorably -
(1) the exterior articles of uniform in his possession shall be
retained for military use;
(2) under such regulations as the Secretary concerned
prescribes, a suit of civilian clothing and an overcoat when
necessary, both to cost not more than $30, may be issued to him;
and
(3) if he would be otherwise without funds to meet his
immediate needs, he may be paid an amount, fixed by the Secretary
concerned, of not more than $25.

(c) When an enlisted member of the Army National Guard or the Air
National Guard who has been called into Federal service is released
from that service, the exterior articles of uniform in his
possession shall be accounted for as property issued to the Army
National Guard or the Air National Guard, as the case may be, of
the State or territory, Puerto Rico, or the District of Columbia of
whose Army National Guard or Air National Guard he is a member, as
prescribed in section 708 of title 32.

Sec. 772. When wearing by persons not on active duty authorized

-STATUTE-
(a) A member of the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard
may wear the uniform prescribed for the Army National Guard or the
Air National Guard, as the case may be.
(b) A member of the Naval Militia may wear the uniform prescribed
for the Naval Militia.
(c) A retired officer of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine
Corps may bear the title and wear the uniform of his retired grade.
(d) A person who is discharged honorably or under honorable
conditions from the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may wear
his uniform while going from the place of discharge to his home,
within three months after his discharge.
(e) A person not on active duty who served honorably in time of
war in the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may bear the
title, and, when authorized by regulations prescribed by the
President, wear the uniform, of the highest grade held by him
during that war.
(f) While portraying a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or
Marine Corps, an actor in a theatrical or motion-picture production
may wear the uniform of that armed force if the portrayal does not
tend to discredit that armed force.
(g) An officer or resident of a veterans' home administered by
the Department of Veterans Affairs may wear such uniform as the
Secretary of the military department concerned may prescribe.
(h) While attending a course of military instruction conducted by
the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, a civilian may wear the
uniform prescribed by that armed force if the wear of such uniform
is specifically authorized under regulations prescribed by the
Secretary of the military department concerned.
(i) Under such regulations as the Secretary of the Air Force may
prescribe, a citizen of a foreign country who graduates from an Air
Force school may wear the appropriate aviation badges of the Air
Force.
(j) A person in any of the following categories may wear the
uniform prescribed for that category:
(1) Members of the Boy Scouts of America.
(2) Members of any other organization designated by the
Secretary of a military department.

Think before you speak. Look up before you write.

Mike

So who enforces this rule? I don't see anyone arresting these guys who wear their old uniforms when they show up to these protests.

I've had a friend who got a citation for wearing his.

 

[paulitician]

Welcome to 'Police State America.' It's only going to get worse unfortunately. The Government has everyone tracked. They know exactly where you are at all times. They want to lock Citizens up for almost anything these days. And along with the Police State comes the 'Prison State.' Not all cops are bad though. Most are good and honorable but they are encouraged to behave like storm troopers. Their future promotions depend on their number of arrest and incarceration records. That's why you see them hauling Citizens off to jail for very minor offenses. It's the system. We need new leaders who respect the Constitution and care about Freedom & Liberty. Until that happens,we're doomed.

 

[High_Gravity]

You are wrong. There are a few exceptions but I am quite sure they do not apply here. Unless he is retired he is not authorized to wear it without some very strict exceptions. Furthermore, if he were active duty he would not be authorized to wear it in that capacity.



Think before you speak. Look up before you write.

Mike

So who enforces this rule? I don't see anyone arresting these guys who wear their old uniforms when they show up to these protests.

I've had a friend who got a citation for wearing his.

Really? I've never seen the police show any interest in pursuing someone because they wore their service uniform after they separated. How often is this law really enforced?

 

[Photonic]

So who enforces this rule? I don't see anyone arresting these guys who wear their old uniforms when they show up to these protests.

I've had a friend who got a citation for wearing his.

Really? I've never seen the police show any interest in pursuing someone because they wore their service uniform after they separated. How often is this law really enforced?

Very VERY rarely, it was by an ex-marine LAPD officer.

Most officers don't even know about the law.

 

[High_Gravity]

I've had a friend who got a citation for wearing his.

Really? I've never seen the police show any interest in pursuing someone because they wore their service uniform after they separated. How often is this law really enforced?

Very VERY rarely, it was by an ex-marine LAPD officer.

Most officers don't even know about the law.

I didn't know about it either, I googled whether or not you could wear your uniform after you separate this is what I found.

C. Wearing Your Uniform: Do’s and Don’ts
· Always proper: After separation, it is appropriate to wear your uniform during Reserve duty.
· Sometimes proper: Under certain conditions, you may wear your uniform as a civilian. Generally, if
you served honorably, you may wear your uniform:
o For military weddings, funerals, memorial services, or inaugural ceremonies.
o For patriotic parades on national holidays and for any military parades.
o For ceremonies in which a U.S. active or Reserve unit is taking part.

http://www.turbotap.org/export/site...s/PDF/TransitionGuide_RC_C15_AfterRelease.pdf

I can already tell you enforcing this rule isn't high on the priority list of most cops working the beat these days.

 

[Texanmike]

So who enforces this rule? I don't see anyone arresting these guys who wear their old uniforms when they show up to these protests.

I have heard of it being prosecuted twice in my life. Had anything gotten out of hand and there been a riot you can bet they would have prosecuted this guy. That is part of the reason you are not allowed to wear your uniform after you finish your service unless you retire.

Honestly though, it doesn't matter. I do not appreciate him wearing his uniform as part of political speech or trying to pilfer an endorsement and/or make himself immune to criticism by being in uniform. THAT is disrespecting the uniform, in my humble opinion.

And I don't care if it is never enforced. Having worn the uniform, he should not be bringing his opinion onto the military uniform. The members of the military protect every form of speech and every citizen. His being there makes it look as if the military endorses the cause. They neither endorse nor discredit it. He is at a civilian function which is to be dealt with by civilian laws and civilian authorities. I would have the same opinion of someone at a Tea Party function, a Klan function, a Black Panther function... anything.

And yes, in some cases you are authorized. I know that it is not unheard of for someone to wear their military uniform to the retirement of a military member in their family. Those cases however are entirely different from this. This is a political demonstration and the military has no business there. If he wants to go, wear plain clothes. He can talk about his military service, that's fine... but wearing the uniform? Unacceptable.

Mike

 

[BDBoop]

I can already tell you enforcing this rule isn't high on the priority list of most cops working the beat these days.

I can hear it now. "Thanks for protecting and serving, for risking your life, going above and beyond, etc. We're honored, we really are. But the uniform has to go."

 

[High_Gravity]

So who enforces this rule? I don't see anyone arresting these guys who wear their old uniforms when they show up to these protests.

I have heard of it being prosecuted twice in my life. Had anything gotten out of hand and there been a riot you can bet they would have prosecuted this guy. That is part of the reason you are not allowed to wear your uniform after you finish your service unless you retire.

Honestly though, it doesn't matter. I do not appreciate him wearing his uniform as part of political speech or trying to pilfer an endorsement and/or make himself immune to criticism by being in uniform. THAT is disrespecting the uniform, in my humble opinion.

Mike

Good to know, you learn something new every day, when I separated nobody briefed me on this rule and I see fools wearing their old uniforms all the time or parts of them.

 

[High_Gravity]

I can already tell you enforcing this rule isn't high on the priority list of most cops working the beat these days.

I can hear it now. "Thanks for protecting and serving, for risking your life, going above and beyond, etc. We're honored, we really are. But the uniform has to go."

How about civilians who never served a day in their lives going into an Army surplus store and buying the new Army DCU's with all the trimmings? do they get arrested too?

 

[Lovebears65]

I'm sorry but Thomas is just wrong. First of all, he is not supposed to use the military uniform to support or to endorse his political cause. He should not be at a political rally in uniform and it should not be a part of political expression. Second, he is not an active duty Marine. Unless he is retired, he does not have the auhtority to wear his military uniform unless expressly authorized.

You can wear your uniform if you separate from the service, I see people do that all the time.

You are wrong. There are a few exceptions but I am quite sure they do not apply here. Unless he is retired he is not authorized to wear it without some very strict exceptions. Furthermore, if he were active duty he would not be authorized to wear it in that capacity.

Except as otherwise provided by law, no person except a member of
the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, as the case may be, may
wear -
(1) the uniform, or a distinctive part of the uniform, of the
Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps; or
(2) a uniform any part of which is similar to a distinctive
part of the uniform of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine
Corps.

(a) Except as provided in subsections (b) and (c), when an
enlisted member of an armed force is discharged, the exterior
articles of uniform in his possession that were issued to him,
other than those that he may wear from the place of discharge to
his home under section 772(d) of this title, shall be retained for
military use.
(b) When an enlisted member of an armed force is discharged for
bad conduct, undesirability, unsuitability, inaptitude, or
otherwise than honorably -
(1) the exterior articles of uniform in his possession shall be
retained for military use;
(2) under such regulations as the Secretary concerned
prescribes, a suit of civilian clothing and an overcoat when
necessary, both to cost not more than $30, may be issued to him;
and
(3) if he would be otherwise without funds to meet his
immediate needs, he may be paid an amount, fixed by the Secretary
concerned, of not more than $25.

(c) When an enlisted member of the Army National Guard or the Air
National Guard who has been called into Federal service is released
from that service, the exterior articles of uniform in his
possession shall be accounted for as property issued to the Army
National Guard or the Air National Guard, as the case may be, of
the State or territory, Puerto Rico, or the District of Columbia of
whose Army National Guard or Air National Guard he is a member, as
prescribed in section 708 of title 32.

Sec. 772. When wearing by persons not on active duty authorized

-STATUTE-
(a) A member of the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard
may wear the uniform prescribed for the Army National Guard or the
Air National Guard, as the case may be.
(b) A member of the Naval Militia may wear the uniform prescribed
for the Naval Militia.
(c) A retired officer of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine
Corps may bear the title and wear the uniform of his retired grade.
(d) A person who is discharged honorably or under honorable
conditions from the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may wear
his uniform while going from the place of discharge to his home,
within three months after his discharge.
(e) A person not on active duty who served honorably in time of
war in the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps may bear the
title, and, when authorized by regulations prescribed by the
President, wear the uniform, of the highest grade held by him
during that war.
(f) While portraying a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or
Marine Corps, an actor in a theatrical or motion-picture production
may wear the uniform of that armed force if the portrayal does not
tend to discredit that armed force.
(g) An officer or resident of a veterans' home administered by
the Department of Veterans Affairs may wear such uniform as the
Secretary of the military department concerned may prescribe.
(h) While attending a course of military instruction conducted by
the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, a civilian may wear the
uniform prescribed by that armed force if the wear of such uniform
is specifically authorized under regulations prescribed by the
Secretary of the military department concerned.
(i) Under such regulations as the Secretary of the Air Force may
prescribe, a citizen of a foreign country who graduates from an Air
Force school may wear the appropriate aviation badges of the Air
Force.
(j) A person in any of the following categories may wear the
uniform prescribed for that category:
(1) Members of the Boy Scouts of America.
(2) Members of any other organization designated by the
Secretary of a military department.

Think before you speak. Look up before you write.

Mike

The only time I have seen my husband put on his uniform after retiring is at his mothers funeral at the national cemetery in Dallas. She was so proud of his service and so was his dad who was retired coast guard. He did not wear it at his fathers funeral . Not sure why though.

 

[Photonic]

I can already tell you enforcing this rule isn't high on the priority list of most cops working the beat these days.

I can hear it now. "Thanks for protecting and serving, for risking your life, going above and beyond, etc. We're honored, we really are. But the uniform has to go."

How about civilians who never served a day in their lives going into an Army surplus store and buying the new Army DCU's with all the trimmings? do they get arrested too?

Technically it can't be enforced on them. I'm not sure you can even BUY them without proof of service if they are the new ones.

Sales of current use military uniforms are prohibited to anyone except those who have been or are in the service.

 

[High_Gravity]

I can hear it now. "Thanks for protecting and serving, for risking your life, going above and beyond, etc. We're honored, we really are. But the uniform has to go."

How about civilians who never served a day in their lives going into an Army surplus store and buying the new Army DCU's with all the trimmings? do they get arrested too?

Technically it can't be enforced on them. I'm not sure you can even BUY them without proof of service if they are the new ones.

Sales of current use military uniforms are prohibited to anyone except those who have been or are in the service.

Are you sure about that?

Military Apparel | Military uniform supplies, name tapes, patches, tactical gear, camouflage clothin

I bought a few uniforms on line when I was still in the service and they shipped them to my house, they never asked for proof of service. Any civilian can log on to this site and order a brand new Army uniform with all the trimmings without having served 1 day in their life.

 

[Texanmike]

I can hear it now. "Thanks for protecting and serving, for risking your life, going above and beyond, etc. We're honored, we really are. But the uniform has to go."

How about civilians who never served a day in their lives going into an Army surplus store and buying the new Army DCU's with all the trimmings? do they get arrested too?

Technically it can't be enforced on them. I'm not sure you can even BUY them without proof of service if they are the new ones.

Sales of current use military uniforms are prohibited to anyone except those who have been or are in the service.

Actually it can be enforced on them. It is not part of the UCMJ it is part of civilian law.

Mike

 

[Texanmike]

How about civilians who never served a day in their lives going into an Army surplus store and buying the new Army DCU's with all the trimmings? do they get arrested too?

Technically it can't be enforced on them. I'm not sure you can even BUY them without proof of service if they are the new ones.

Sales of current use military uniforms are prohibited to anyone except those who have been or are in the service.

Are you sure about that?

Military Apparel | Military uniform supplies, name tapes, patches, tactical gear, camouflage clothin

I bought a few uniforms on line when I was still in the service and they shipped them to my house, they never asked for proof of service. Any civilian can log on to this site and order a brand new Army uniform with all the trimmings without having served 1 day in their life.

The law does not address sales specifically. For example, if your spouse is in the military, you are allowed to go in and buy a ribbon they need for a ceremony. Same for anyone you know in the military (at a surplus store, not at the BX obviously). The law addresses wearing the uniform. I must stress that it is US Code 10, not UCMJ. It is possible to charge a civilian.

Mike

 

[Photonic]

How about civilians who never served a day in their lives going into an Army surplus store and buying the new Army DCU's with all the trimmings? do they get arrested too?

Technically it can't be enforced on them. I'm not sure you can even BUY them without proof of service if they are the new ones.

Sales of current use military uniforms are prohibited to anyone except those who have been or are in the service.

Are you sure about that?

Military Apparel | Military uniform supplies, name tapes, patches, tactical gear, camouflage clothin

I bought a few uniforms on line when I was still in the service and they shipped them to my house, they never asked for proof of service. Any civilian can log on to this site and order a brand new Army uniform with all the trimmings without having served 1 day in their life.

Weird, the ones I've been on require you to acknowledge you are or were in service.

 

[Photonic]

Technically it can't be enforced on them. I'm not sure you can even BUY them without proof of service if they are the new ones.

Sales of current use military uniforms are prohibited to anyone except those who have been or are in the service.

Are you sure about that?

Military Apparel | Military uniform supplies, name tapes, patches, tactical gear, camouflage clothin

I bought a few uniforms on line when I was still in the service and they shipped them to my house, they never asked for proof of service. Any civilian can log on to this site and order a brand new Army uniform with all the trimmings without having served 1 day in their life.

The law does not address sales specifically. For example, if your spouse is in the military, you are allowed to go in and buy a ribbon they need for a ceremony. Same for anyone you know in the military (at a surplus store, not at the BX obviously). The law addresses wearing the uniform. I must stress that it is US Code 10, not UCMJ. It is possible to charge a civilian.

Mike

Thank you for the clarification, I always assumed it was UCMJ and was prohibited by sales.

Then I realized that you can be put in jail for 5 years for impersonating military personnel.

 

[High_Gravity]

Technically it can't be enforced on them. I'm not sure you can even BUY them without proof of service if they are the new ones.

Sales of current use military uniforms are prohibited to anyone except those who have been or are in the service.

Are you sure about that?

Military Apparel | Military uniform supplies, name tapes, patches, tactical gear, camouflage clothin

I bought a few uniforms on line when I was still in the service and they shipped them to my house, they never asked for proof of service. Any civilian can log on to this site and order a brand new Army uniform with all the trimmings without having served 1 day in their life.

Weird, the ones I've been on require you to acknowledge you are or were in service.

Not this one, it even says no Military ID required at the top, anyone can order a US Army uniform on here.