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God deeded that land to Israel. not the UN. We would do well to leave Israel alone. You may be able to defeat the Jews, but you will never defeat their God.
Do you identify as antisemitic? I have read many of your posts, and while factually correct from what I have researched, I feel these antisemitic comments that you throw in do a disservice not only to yourself, but also to the Jewish people who are not zionists, which is the majority of us.foul Jews
That said, can any of the zionists in here trolling comment on or refute any of the claims made in the OP? Or, can we agree here that in essence that this is what happened? For those interested in a solution, this would be a huge first step.
You are incorrect that the 'majority' of Jews do not identify with Zionist ideology...can you prove this assertion?
I noticed you didn't say all, but most Jews and no traditional Jews are not zionists.To the extent that 'anti-Semitism' is a misnomer I am hardly obligated to even entertain the standard question/accusation...according to polling the vast majority of Jews ARE indeed Zionists to varying degree, hence my reference to the plunderers of Palestine---"foul Jews'---is descriptively valid...kindly note that I did not say "all Jews'...
I noticed you didn't say all, but most Jews and no traditional Jews are not zionists.To the extent that 'anti-Semitism' is a misnomer I am hardly obligated to even entertain the standard question/accusation...according to polling the vast majority of Jews ARE indeed Zionists to varying degree, hence my reference to the plunderers of Palestine---"foul Jews'---is descriptively valid...kindly note that I did not say "all Jews'...
Most Jews have not moved there. Over 1/4 of those who have wish to leave, but cannot. It is dangerous for any of us to conflate the Jewish people with zionists as I have been explaining to Shusha. And it is important to note that the Jews who were there before the Europeans came lived peacefully with their Christian and Muslim neighbors for centuries.
You need to state why and then have facts to support your claims.The OP is in error by omission, misrepresentation and factually incorrect as well as demonizing and anti-semitic. I'll make a post on it.
I just did.And any time you want to talk solutions, you've been invited many times. You never seem to take us up on it.
Do you identify as antisemitic? I have read many of your posts, and while factually correct from what I have researched, I feel these antisemitic comments that you throw in do a disservice not only to yourself, but also to the Jewish people who are not zionists, which is the majority of us.foul Jews
That said, can any of the zionists in here trolling comment on or refute any of the claims made in the OP? Or, can we agree here that in essence that this is what happened? For those interested in a solution, this would be a huge first step.
The anti-semitism does a disservice to ALL Jews, not just the ones who don't believe Jews should have the same rights that other peoples do.
The OP is in error by omission, misrepresentation and factually incorrect as well as demonizing and anti-semitic. I'll make a post on it.
And any time you want to talk solutions, you've been invited many times. You never seem to take us up on it.
You need to state why and then have facts to support your claims.The OP is in error by omission, misrepresentation and factually incorrect as well as demonizing and anti-semitic. I'll make a post on it.
I just did.And any time you want to talk solutions, you've been invited many times. You never seem to take us up on it.
Do you have a link to the actual research? I am interested in the criteria used to determine the claimed results. A saw an article link and a link to a graphic. Did I miss it?Abi I just posted a link to a poll that reveals that the vast majority of denominational Jews are indeed Zionists...the state of Israel is supported by the vast majority of world Jewry...if you can disprove this statistic please do...
You need to state why and then have facts to support your claims.The OP is in error by omission, misrepresentation and factually incorrect as well as demonizing and anti-semitic. I'll make a post on it.
I just did.And any time you want to talk solutions, you've been invited many times. You never seem to take us up on it.
Shusha is a mindless Hasbara-parrot...she works from alpha-numerical software which contains a scripted--albeit incorrect---reply to any subject within the Arab/Israeli subject spectrum...you cannot expect her to refute or argue...she is a paid liar...
No one here on this board on Team Israel argues that the UN authorized the creation of Israel. We all know that the UN does not possess the legal capacity to create States nor to authorize their creation. At best, the UN provides one possible source of recognition....the pervasive idea that the UN authorized the creation of Israel demands specific correction.
There is no such thing as "historic" Palestine as a legal entity beyond a designation for a specific territory -- like Appalachia or the Pacific Northwest. These geographical designations do not in any way suggest or confer sovereignty.The UN sponsored a ridiculous partition-proposal to grant 56% of historic Palestine
Repeat after me: private land ownership is not sovereignty, private land ownership is not sovereignty.to a Jewish minority that legally owned less than 5% of the land.
That part is true. (Though slightly ironic since India was partitioned. Twice.)The Arab States of course rejected the recommendation, along with India.
correction: The nascent State of Israel.Following this the Zionist terrorists
correction: launched a well-organized military defensive action against the illegally present regular and irregular armies of five Arab States, as well as hostile Arab residents who attacked Israel. Part of that defensive action, as was normal practice at the time, was to secure towns and villages. For a wide number of reasons involved in military action in residential places -- BOTH the Arab and Jewish residents were displaced.launched a well-organized terror-offensive /ethnic-cleansing
note also that nearly one million Jewish people were actually ethnically cleansed from the surrounding ME countries. I know it was an actual ethnic cleansing because there was no WAR or hostilities occurring in those ME countries at the time and therefore had no cause or justification that is either legally or morally correct.driving 800,000 native Palestinians from their homes and property
self-defense is not a crimein the wake of this crime
yes, they most certainly did, in keeping with the legal demands of the Mandate for Palestine which acknowledged an already existing right of the Jewish people to a homeland in their historical and ancestral territory.the foul Jews announced the 'new nation of Israel'
Which, according to all laws at the time was the place for the reconstitution of the national home (State) for the Jewish people. One can not occupy land one is legally entitled to.---which in reality was occupied Palestine.
Which the UN did thus adding a critical piece of the sovereignty criteria -- recognition and the ability to enter into agreements with other States and international entities.Under heavy western pressure from the Truman administration the United Nations was directed to 'recognize and legitimize' the nation of Israel
ALL peoples -- not just Arab peoples. That includes the rights of the Jewish people.--thereby violating the wording and spirit of its own charter, sworn to protect and defend the residency rights of native peoples
Do you have a link to the actual research? I am interested in the criteria used to determine the claimed results. A saw an article link and a link to a graphic. Did I miss it?Abi I just posted a link to a poll that reveals that the vast majority of denominational Jews are indeed Zionists...the state of Israel is supported by the vast majority of world Jewry...if you can disprove this statistic please do...
Do you have a link to the actual research? I am interested in the criteria used to determine the claimed results. A saw an article link and a link to a graphic. Did I miss it?Abi I just posted a link to a poll that reveals that the vast majority of denominational Jews are indeed Zionists...the state of Israel is supported by the vast majority of world Jewry...if you can disprove this statistic please do...
No one here on this board on Team Israel argues that the UN authorized the creation of Israel. We all know that the UN does not possess the legal capacity to create States nor to authorize their creation. At best, the UN provides one possible source of recognition....the pervasive idea that the UN authorized the creation of Israel demands specific correction.
There is no such thing as "historic" Palestine as a legal entity beyond a designation for a specific territory -- like Appalachia or the Pacific Northwest. These geographical designations do not in any way suggest or confer sovereignty.The UN sponsored a ridiculous partition-proposal to grant 56% of historic Palestine
Further, Palestine as relevant in this context included Jordan. Therefore, 77% of the territory was removed from any possibility of coming under Jewish sovereignty and assigned to Arab sovereignty. It is false to say that the partition plan granted 56% of Palestine to the Jewish people.
Repeat after me: private land ownership is not sovereignty, private land ownership is not sovereignty.to a Jewish minority that legally owned less than 5% of the land.
Repeat after me: minorities have rights, minorities have rights
That part is true. (Though slightly ironic since India was partitioned. Twice.)The Arab States of course rejected the recommendation, along with India.
correction: The nascent State of Israel.Following this the Zionist terrorists
correction: launched a well-organized military defensive action against the illegally present regular and irregular armies of five Arab States, as well as hostile Arab residents who attacked Israel. Part of that defensive action, as was normal practice at the time, was to secure towns and villages. For a wide number of reasons involved in military action in residential places -- BOTH the Arab and Jewish residents were displaced.launched a well-organized terror-offensive /ethnic-cleansing
note also that nearly one million Jewish people were actually ethnically cleansed from the surrounding ME countries. I know it was an actual ethnic cleansing because there was no WAR or hostilities occurring in those ME countries at the time and therefore had no cause or justification that is either legally or morally correct.driving 800,000 native Palestinians from their homes and property
.self-defense is not a crimein the wake of this crime
yes, they most certainly did, in keeping with the legal demands of the Mandate for Palestine which acknowledged an already existing right of the Jewish people to a homeland in their historical and ancestral territory.the foul Jews announced the 'new nation of Israel'
Which, according to all laws at the time was the place for the reconstitution of the national home (State) for the Jewish people. One can not occupy land one is legally entitled to.---which in reality was occupied Palestine.
Which the UN did thus adding a critical piece of the sovereignty criteria -- recognition and the ability to enter into agreements with other States and international entities.Under heavy western pressure from the Truman administration the United Nations was directed to 'recognize and legitimize' the nation of Israel
ALL peoples -- not just Arab peoples. That includes the rights of the Jewish people.--thereby violating the wording and spirit of its own charter, sworn to protect and defend the residency rights of native peoples
what part of 'ethnic-cleansing' just doesn't register princess????
What is the relevance to the question?what part of 'ethnic-cleansing' just doesn't register princess????
The part where you entirely neglect to mention the hostile activities of the Arab residents and invading armies.
what part of 'ethnic-cleansing' just doesn't register princess????
The part where you entirely neglect to mention the hostile activities of the Arab residents and invading armies.
No one here on this board on Team Israel argues that the UN authorized the creation of Israel. We all know that the UN does not possess the legal capacity to create States nor to authorize their creation. At best, the UN provides one possible source of recognition....the pervasive idea that the UN authorized the creation of Israel demands specific correction.
There is no such thing as "historic" Palestine as a legal entity beyond a designation for a specific territory -- like Appalachia or the Pacific Northwest. These geographical designations do not in any way suggest or confer sovereignty.The UN sponsored a ridiculous partition-proposal to grant 56% of historic Palestine
Further, Palestine as relevant in this context included Jordan. Therefore, 77% of the territory was removed from any possibility of coming under Jewish sovereignty and assigned to Arab sovereignty. It is false to say that the partition plan granted 56% of Palestine to the Jewish people.
Repeat after me: private land ownership is not sovereignty, private land ownership is not sovereignty.to a Jewish minority that legally owned less than 5% of the land.
Repeat after me: minorities have rights, minorities have rights
That part is true. (Though slightly ironic since India was partitioned. Twice.)The Arab States of course rejected the recommendation, along with India.
correction: The nascent State of Israel.Following this the Zionist terrorists
correction: launched a well-organized military defensive action against the illegally present regular and irregular armies of five Arab States, as well as hostile Arab residents who attacked Israel. Part of that defensive action, as was normal practice at the time, was to secure towns and villages. For a wide number of reasons involved in military action in residential places -- BOTH the Arab and Jewish residents were displaced.launched a well-organized terror-offensive /ethnic-cleansing
note also that nearly one million Jewish people were actually ethnically cleansed from the surrounding ME countries. I know it was an actual ethnic cleansing because there was no WAR or hostilities occurring in those ME countries at the time and therefore had no cause or justification that is either legally or morally correct.driving 800,000 native Palestinians from their homes and property
.self-defense is not a crimein the wake of this crime
yes, they most certainly did, in keeping with the legal demands of the Mandate for Palestine which acknowledged an already existing right of the Jewish people to a homeland in their historical and ancestral territory.the foul Jews announced the 'new nation of Israel'
Which, according to all laws at the time was the place for the reconstitution of the national home (State) for the Jewish people. One can not occupy land one is legally entitled to.---which in reality was occupied Palestine.
Which the UN did thus adding a critical piece of the sovereignty criteria -- recognition and the ability to enter into agreements with other States and international entities.Under heavy western pressure from the Truman administration the United Nations was directed to 'recognize and legitimize' the nation of Israel
ALL peoples -- not just Arab peoples. That includes the rights of the Jewish people.--thereby violating the wording and spirit of its own charter, sworn to protect and defend the residency rights of native peoples
Standardized Zionist propaganda that has been corrected time and again...the hilarity is that you post this tired swill again and again with zero credibility...what part of 'ethnic-cleansing' just doesn't register princess????
What is the relevance to the question?what part of 'ethnic-cleansing' just doesn't register princess????
The part where you entirely neglect to mention the hostile activities of the Arab residents and invading armies.
No one here on this board on Team Israel argues that the UN authorized the creation of Israel. We all know that the UN does not possess the legal capacity to create States nor to authorize their creation. At best, the UN provides one possible source of recognition....the pervasive idea that the UN authorized the creation of Israel demands specific correction.
There is no such thing as "historic" Palestine as a legal entity beyond a designation for a specific territory -- like Appalachia or the Pacific Northwest. These geographical designations do not in any way suggest or confer sovereignty.The UN sponsored a ridiculous partition-proposal to grant 56% of historic Palestine
Further, Palestine as relevant in this context included Jordan. Therefore, 77% of the territory was removed from any possibility of coming under Jewish sovereignty and assigned to Arab sovereignty. It is false to say that the partition plan granted 56% of Palestine to the Jewish people.
Repeat after me: private land ownership is not sovereignty, private land ownership is not sovereignty.to a Jewish minority that legally owned less than 5% of the land.
Repeat after me: minorities have rights, minorities have rights
That part is true. (Though slightly ironic since India was partitioned. Twice.)The Arab States of course rejected the recommendation, along with India.
correction: The nascent State of Israel.Following this the Zionist terrorists
correction: launched a well-organized military defensive action against the illegally present regular and irregular armies of five Arab States, as well as hostile Arab residents who attacked Israel. Part of that defensive action, as was normal practice at the time, was to secure towns and villages. For a wide number of reasons involved in military action in residential places -- BOTH the Arab and Jewish residents were displaced.launched a well-organized terror-offensive /ethnic-cleansing
note also that nearly one million Jewish people were actually ethnically cleansed from the surrounding ME countries. I know it was an actual ethnic cleansing because there was no WAR or hostilities occurring in those ME countries at the time and therefore had no cause or justification that is either legally or morally correct.driving 800,000 native Palestinians from their homes and property
.self-defense is not a crimein the wake of this crime
yes, they most certainly did, in keeping with the legal demands of the Mandate for Palestine which acknowledged an already existing right of the Jewish people to a homeland in their historical and ancestral territory.the foul Jews announced the 'new nation of Israel'
Which, according to all laws at the time was the place for the reconstitution of the national home (State) for the Jewish people. One can not occupy land one is legally entitled to.---which in reality was occupied Palestine.
Which the UN did thus adding a critical piece of the sovereignty criteria -- recognition and the ability to enter into agreements with other States and international entities.Under heavy western pressure from the Truman administration the United Nations was directed to 'recognize and legitimize' the nation of Israel
ALL peoples -- not just Arab peoples. That includes the rights of the Jewish people.--thereby violating the wording and spirit of its own charter, sworn to protect and defend the residency rights of native peoples
Standardized Zionist propaganda that has been corrected time and again...the hilarity is that you post this tired swill again and again with zero credibility...what part of 'ethnic-cleansing' just doesn't register princess????
It honestly amazes me Tinmore...no sooner does one categorically expose their Hasbara lies than they re-post the same shit with that unmistakable smugness...you cannot make this up!
I couldn't find the actual poll. I think it depends on your definition of zionist. Do you have to move to Israel? Do you even need to understand the situation, which I would argue that most Jews outside of Israel do not? Do you feel that you support them in some way or do you have to send money?The post contains a link to the Pew Research Center...beyond that I am unable to assist...if you dispute the findings please refute them with documented sources...
