Filibusters and reconciliation- PERFECT for Pubs to stop any progress, keep pandering to greedy rich/corporations, screw the nonrich and the country! The question is, how can you be so STUPID, dupes? Change the channel, ya gd morons...LOL
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Filibusters and reconciliation- PERFECT for Pubs to stop any progress, keep pandering to greedy rich/corporations, screw the nonrich and the country! The question is, how can you be so STUPID, dupes? Change the channel, ya gd morons...LOL
'Mike Franc, Heritage’s Vice President of Government Studies, explained the details of reconciliation’s applicability thusly:
Now that the individual mandate has acquired the official constitutional status of a “tax”, there is no longer any doubt that the Congress, and more specifically the Senate, can repeal it pursuant to the simple majority vote threshold available under the Budget Act’s reconciliation process. Some Senate insiders were concerned that the reconciliation process would leave too much of Obamacare intact, including the individual mandate. But today’s decision, while alarming in so many other ways, dispels with that concern.
The mandate is now a revenue provision. Therefore, it is germane and not subject to a Senate parliamentary point of order to strike it from a repeal bill. The Senate’s filibuster process that would require a supermajority of 60 Senate votes to approve repeal is now irrelevant.'
Senate GOP Will Use Reconciliation to Repeal Obamacare
Justice Roberts is, indeed, a genius!
While I will be happy the GOP uses any tactic within the rules to rid us of this insanity I have'nt alot to say about anything that comes out of Herritage. They started this ball rolling and now the GOP has to eat it regardless of involvement or not. All in an effort to fight Hillary.....
Just evidence that Progressive Republicans hiding amongst us conservatives can be more dangerous than those on the left at times.
The idea of the Individual Mandate was created as the right-wing answer to universal health care coverage.
Not a "secret plot" by the "progressive republicans".
What part of official Constitutional status as a tax are you not getting?
yep. The mandate originated at HeritageWhile I will be happy the GOP uses any tactic within the rules to rid us of this insanity I have'nt alot to say about anything that comes out of Herritage. They started this ball rolling and now the GOP has to eat it regardless of involvement or not. All in an effort to fight Hillary.....
The idea of the Individual Mandate was created as the right-wing answer to universal health care coverage.
Not a "secret plot" by the "progressive republicans".
IOW: A smoke screen.
'Mike Franc, Heritage’s Vice President of Government Studies, explained the details of reconciliation’s applicability thusly:
Now that the individual mandate has acquired the official constitutional status of a “tax”, there is no longer any doubt that the Congress, and more specifically the Senate, can repeal it pursuant to the simple majority vote threshold available under the Budget Act’s reconciliation process. Some Senate insiders were concerned that the reconciliation process would leave too much of Obamacare intact, including the individual mandate. But today’s decision, while alarming in so many other ways, dispels with that concern.
The mandate is now a revenue provision. Therefore, it is germane and not subject to a Senate parliamentary point of order to strike it from a repeal bill. The Senate’s filibuster process that would require a supermajority of 60 Senate votes to approve repeal is now irrelevant.'
Senate GOP Will Use Reconciliation to Repeal Obamacare
Justice Roberts is, indeed, a genius!
While I will be happy the GOP uses any tactic within the rules to rid us of this insanity I have'nt alot to say about anything that comes out of Herritage. They started this ball rolling and now the GOP has to eat it regardless of involvement or not. All in an effort to fight Hillary.....
Just evidence that Progressive Republicans hiding amongst us conservatives can be more dangerous than those on the left at times.
do you have insurance already? will you drop it so that you will be charged with a tax penalty?Better hope Obama has an even bigger turn out than he did in 08.
But given the number of disenfranchised voters he's created with his broken promise of not raising taxes on the middle class......
who in the middle class's taxes are going up? it's the penalty if you do not take out insurance...yes a tax penalty, like me paying taxes late, i would be charged a tax penalty for it....but you don't and won't be taxed for MY CHOICE to refuse insurance....
i am presuming you and i are both middle class in my example....
was romneycare's penalty on those who did not buy insurance ''a tax hike on the middle class'' as well?
why ok for romneycare penalty tax and not obamacare, since it is constitutional according to the SC....?
just wondering
I could be mistaken, but I haven't seen anyone but libs defend Romneycare. If cons defend it, it's usually argued as a state, rather than a Federal issue.
IOW, you're making a false comparison.
Filibusters and reconciliation- PERFECT for Pubs to stop any progress, keep pandering to greedy rich/corporations, screw the nonrich and the country! The question is, how can you be so STUPID, dupes? Change the channel, ya gd morons...LOL
I bet some Dims are thinking this is over now.
yep. The mandate originated at HeritageWhile I will be happy the GOP uses any tactic within the rules to rid us of this insanity I have'nt alot to say about anything that comes out of Herritage. They started this ball rolling and now the GOP has to eat it regardless of involvement or not. All in an effort to fight Hillary.....
Originated at Heritage, proposed by Dole and implemented by Willard. What do these all have in common?
I bet some Dims are thinking this is over now.
wasn't that your first thread of the day - "Unconstitutional!"
well it turns out it isn't over afterall ...
I bet some Dims are thinking this is over now.
wasn't that your first thread of the day - "Unconstitutional!"
well it turns out it isn't over afterall ...
Actually, they said it was on the grounds on which it was passed.
Roberts essentially rewrote the bill to allow it to pass.
While I will be happy the GOP uses any tactic within the rules to rid us of this insanity I have'nt alot to say about anything that comes out of Herritage. They started this ball rolling and now the GOP has to eat it regardless of involvement or not. All in an effort to fight Hillary.....
Just evidence that Progressive Republicans hiding amongst us conservatives can be more dangerous than those on the left at times.
The idea of the Individual Mandate was created as the right-wing answer to universal health care coverage.
Not a "secret plot" by the "progressive republicans".
I bet some Dims are thinking this is over now.
wasn't that your first thread of the day - "Unconstitutional!"
well it turns out it isn't over afterall ...
Actually, they said it was on the grounds on which it was passed.
Roberts essentially rewrote the bill to allow it to pass.
Just evidence that Progressive Republicans hiding amongst us conservatives can be more dangerous than those on the left at times.
The idea of the Individual Mandate was created as the right-wing answer to universal health care coverage.
Not a "secret plot" by the "progressive republicans".
Progressive Republicans never tried to keep it a secret, ya rube. They were fucking PROUD of that shit. Conservatives shut it down then, and we're shutting it down now.
Get used to it...
'Mike Franc, Heritages Vice President of Government Studies, explained the details of reconciliations applicability thusly:
Now that the individual mandate has acquired the official constitutional status of a tax, there is no longer any doubt that the Congress, and more specifically the Senate, can repeal it pursuant to the simple majority vote threshold available under the Budget Acts reconciliation process. Some Senate insiders were concerned that the reconciliation process would leave too much of Obamacare intact, including the individual mandate. But todays decision, while alarming in so many other ways, dispels with that concern.
The mandate is now a revenue provision. Therefore, it is germane and not subject to a Senate parliamentary point of order to strike it from a repeal bill. The Senates filibuster process that would require a supermajority of 60 Senate votes to approve repeal is now irrelevant.'
Senate GOP Will Use Reconciliation to Repeal Obamacare
Justice Roberts is, indeed, a genius!
so NONE of the 45% were against the individual mandate? none of the 45% against the healthcare act, were also against the mandate?
See Horty, I think some of the 45% against the affordable health care act, could also be part of that number on those who are against the mandate....no?