Seems awful cold for the "hottest" year on record

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    I still laugh about the global warming last year in Copenhagen. Which never sees snow in December, got frozen solid.

    There was talk of a Global warming conference in Rio. I never heard much about it. I would wager the folks in Rio paid the Global warming loons a lot of money to stay away. Rio doesn't know how to deal with snow.
     
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    I wonder if people understand how widespread weather station data errors are. The IPCC and other organizations want the wealthy nations to pay trillions of dollars but no one is willing to put an audit together to find and correct simple mistakes, let alone reanalyze the massive data massaging done at several different stages of temperature collection>>>international agency redistribution>>>AGW catastropic projection. I won't go as far as to say GIGO (garbage in , garbage out) but mistakes made throughout the process add up to very large uncertainties at the end result.
     
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    Well then...since it was cold somewhere that ends the whole bruhaha about global warming, then, doesn't it?
     
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    Over twenty volcanos acting up in Indonesia. We might see some real cold weather if one of them does the Krakatoa number. That, and a very strong La Nina.
     
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    It's about the gases, if they don't stabilize, warming is inevitable. All the weather reports in the world won't change the fact that GHGs absorb energy and that it has to go somwhere, according to the LAW of Conservation of Energy. That's no "theory", folks!!!
     
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    Since you're an expert on skiing in the Alps, glaciers and early season conditions in the Alps; how many early openings have the Alps had in the last 50 years? How many early closings have the Alps had in the last 50 years? How have the glaciers held up in the last 50 years? Most records go back to 1850 in the Alps so I'll make it easy on you and only have you document proof back to 1960.
     
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    Temps in the 40s and 50s doesn't seem cold at all!!!

    Schladming - Styria Weather Forecasts | Maps | News - Yahoo! Weather
     
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    How old is Otzi? I will go easy on you as his story hasn't been in the news for a while. Oh fine I will just tell you, he is the iceman found in the Italian Alps about 1990 or 91, and he is 5,300 years old. Why am I asking the question....well, you see, he was found when a glacier melted and lo and behold there he was! He was WALKING where a glacier existed for thousands of years. That means 5,300 years ago there was NO glacier there! That means it was WARMER then! Oh...my...gosh! The weather was warmer FIVE THOUSAND YEARS AGO AND THERE WERE NO SUV'S THERE!!!!!! HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?
     
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    It's so hot where I live that we've had frost for the last 10 mornings.
     

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