The Secession Movement is alive and well:
http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/11/texas_secession.jpg
I don’t know how it has been going in a few other states since 2012:
. . . residents in the state of Louisiana were petitioning to secede from the U.S., residents in over 20 more states have filed requests with the White House to peaceably break from the union.
Joining Louisiana now are Arizona, Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia, Missouri, Tennessee, Michigan, New York, Colorado, Oregon, New Jersey, North Dakota, Montana, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, Florida, North Carolina, Alabama and Texas.
Screen capture of White House petition page for Louisiana secessionhttp://www.wnd.com/files/2012/11/121109louisianapetition.jpg
Separating the parasites from the producers is the first scenario that comes to mind. (Ann Coulter calls them the makers and the takers.)
Separation in America should not be confused with India’s partition in 1947. Partition was the only way to rein in the religious hatreds and violence that existed between Muslims and the Hindu majority. Nor should it be confused with the differences between the Union and the Confederate States that ended in a bloody Civil War.
Today, separation can be accomplished peacefully because it is purely political rather than religious, racial, or along geographical lines. Americans who want to return to the limited government, property Rights, and individual freedoms the Founders codified in the Constitution and in the Original Bill of Rights can move to a state that secedes, while Socialists can live in those states that advocate omnipotent government and collectivism. Everybody gets what they want. Socialists get even more because they can finally establish their utopia by working for one another —— leaving the rest of us to fend for ourselves as did early Americans.
Philosophically separation is on the side of the secessionists:
The Founders distrusted powerful central government to begin with; so it’s safe to say they would despise today’s federal government much like Dr. Frankenstein hated the monster.
Also, an honest look at the morals advocated and practiced by the people running the federal government shows that secession is right in line with Arnold Toynbee’s observation:
Of the 22 civilizations that have appeared in history, 19 of them collapsed when they reached the moral state America is in today.
Toynbee does not say how many of those 19 civilizations died violent deaths. The collapse of America’s civilization need not be violent. Many Americans already believe the federal government is not worth fighting for or saving. Peaceful secession could make the score 20 out of 23 and no harm done.
Is the framework for peaceful secession already in place? Answer: There are two schools of thought on that question. The answer is no if you agree with the North’s victory in the Civil War. The answer is yes just as it was yes before the start of the War Between the States.
Parenthetically, all of the recent crapola put out about Lincoln the Magnificent appears to be aimed at heading off the Secession Movement. In truth:
Let’s consider what happens if a number of states secede peacefully.
The Monroe Doctrine would still apply. Seceding Americans would not want to defend the form of government practiced in the states they seceded from any more than they want to defend communism at home or abroad as the federal government now does. So the first thing they must do is agree to defend the continent. That’s assuming the Socialist states want to cooperate in defending territorial integrity. Socialists have never shown a willingness to defend the U.S. of A. against the International community, but they might change their minds when they are out there all by themselves.
China and Russia would be held at bay during the transition period knowing that every state and the current military would still defend America’s current territory.
Setting up a military structure for the purpose of self-defense should not present a problem. Unlike the War Between the States where all of the manufacturing was in the North, much of the machinery is already located in seceding states. Essential industries located abroad can quickly be returned.
Serendipitously, secession automatically wipes out membership in the United Nations. I’d go so far as to suggest following up by criminalizing binding membership in International organizations.
To no one’s surprise, those people who say American states have no Right to secede from their federal government are the same people who claim nations have no Right to secede from the United Nations. Basically, the prohibition refers to smaller nations because I doubt if anyone can stop China, Russia, India, and a few others from seceding if they so choose.
Language
Establishing English as the state language would be next. That would help insure that North America does not degenerate in a bunch of warring states speaking different languages like Europe.
The Constitution
The next thing seceding states must do is update the original Constitution and Bill of Rights along the lines the Founders laid out. All of the avenues that led to the welfare state, along with the creation and growth of a parasite class, can be closed off quite easily simply by defining necessary government. If it ain’t necessary it does not get a penny from the public treasury. The beauty there is that politicians cannot buy votes with tax dollars as Democrats have been doing since the FDR years.
It goes without saying that a tax on income will also be eliminated constitutionally for all time.
Citizenship
American citizens would have five years to establish citizenship in a seceding state. At the end of five years dual citizenship would not be honored in any way. Primarily, citizenship would be established to protect property Rights, employment, legal Rights, and insuring that only citizens are issued passports for travel outside the original 50 states. Travel between states that seceded and those states that chose collectivism should not require travel papers.
Finally, since 1945 the federal government handed large portions of America’s sovereignty to the United Nations with more to go. I truly believe that the United States withdrawing from the United Nations would end the Secession Movement in order for each state to regain their own sovereignty. In truth, States like Texas are fighting two enemies:
1. The federal government.
2. The United Nations.
Texas secession resolution passes GOP committee
Posted By Douglas Ernst On 12/04/2015 @ 9:00 pm In
Texas secession resolution passes GOP committee
Posted By Douglas Ernst On 12/04/2015 @ 9:00 pm In
Texas secession resolution passes GOP committee
I don’t know how it has been going in a few other states since 2012:
. . . residents in the state of Louisiana were petitioning to secede from the U.S., residents in over 20 more states have filed requests with the White House to peaceably break from the union.
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Joining Louisiana now are Arizona, Oklahoma, Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia, Missouri, Tennessee, Michigan, New York, Colorado, Oregon, New Jersey, North Dakota, Montana, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, Florida, North Carolina, Alabama and Texas.
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Screen capture of White House petition page for Louisiana secession
Residents of other states, however, have chosen different wording.
The Texas petition explains itself this way: “The U.S. continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the U.S. suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our Founding Fathers, which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.”
The Texas petition explains itself this way: “The U.S. continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the U.S. suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our Founding Fathers, which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.”
Now many states want to secede from U.S.
Movement started day after election spreading like wildfire
Posted By Drew Zahn On 11/12/2012 @ 2:06 pm
Now many states want to secede from U.S.
Movement started day after election spreading like wildfire
Posted By Drew Zahn On 11/12/2012 @ 2:06 pm
Now many states want to secede from U.S.
Separating the parasites from the producers is the first scenario that comes to mind. (Ann Coulter calls them the makers and the takers.)
Separation in America should not be confused with India’s partition in 1947. Partition was the only way to rein in the religious hatreds and violence that existed between Muslims and the Hindu majority. Nor should it be confused with the differences between the Union and the Confederate States that ended in a bloody Civil War.
Today, separation can be accomplished peacefully because it is purely political rather than religious, racial, or along geographical lines. Americans who want to return to the limited government, property Rights, and individual freedoms the Founders codified in the Constitution and in the Original Bill of Rights can move to a state that secedes, while Socialists can live in those states that advocate omnipotent government and collectivism. Everybody gets what they want. Socialists get even more because they can finally establish their utopia by working for one another —— leaving the rest of us to fend for ourselves as did early Americans.
Philosophically separation is on the side of the secessionists:
Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy. Ron Paul
The Founders distrusted powerful central government to begin with; so it’s safe to say they would despise today’s federal government much like Dr. Frankenstein hated the monster.
Also, an honest look at the morals advocated and practiced by the people running the federal government shows that secession is right in line with Arnold Toynbee’s observation:
Of the 22 civilizations that have appeared in history, 19 of them collapsed when they reached the moral state America is in today.
Toynbee does not say how many of those 19 civilizations died violent deaths. The collapse of America’s civilization need not be violent. Many Americans already believe the federal government is not worth fighting for or saving. Peaceful secession could make the score 20 out of 23 and no harm done.
Is the framework for peaceful secession already in place? Answer: There are two schools of thought on that question. The answer is no if you agree with the North’s victory in the Civil War. The answer is yes just as it was yes before the start of the War Between the States.
Parenthetically, all of the recent crapola put out about Lincoln the Magnificent appears to be aimed at heading off the Secession Movement. In truth:
. . . Americans have been suffering, due to the federal government’s monopoly in the production and distribution of money, thanks to President Abraham Lincoln and his War on Independence.
Within the inalienable rights to life and liberty, as recognized in the Declaration of Independence, is the right to independence. People have a right not to be compelled to be dependent on the federal government’s monopoly of territorial protection and jurisdiction. If people within a particular territory have a right of independence and a right of self-determination, then they have a right to secede from the federal “union.” This is reinforced by the Declaration of Independence, which states that “it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” And Thomas Jefferson later noted, “...If any state in the Union will declare that it prefers separation....to a continuance in the union....I have no hesitation in saying, 'let us separate'...”
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Much of America’s current economic slavery and depression are tied to Lincoln’s actions. To Lincoln, expanding the size and power of the federal government and further handcuffing the masses was worth the clinging US government’s campaign of violence and barbarism against civilians that contradicted internationally recognized mores. While the Founding Fathers were forced to use war to secede from tyrannical British rule, Lincoln used war for the opposite purpose.
The nation states of the Soviet Union learned their lesson, that central planning and government monopolies violate individual rights and cause dysfunction, economic stagnation and corruption. Either the US states ought to secede from the federal government’s control, or we ought to consider eliminating the federal government altogether and let the people have their freedom and independence. It is the people’s inalienable right to secede, just as it was the Founders’ inalienable right to secede from British rule.
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The nation states of the Soviet Union learned their lesson, that central planning and government monopolies violate individual rights and cause dysfunction, economic stagnation and corruption. Either the US states ought to secede from the federal government’s control, or we ought to consider eliminating the federal government altogether and let the people have their freedom and independence. It is the people’s inalienable right to secede, just as it was the Founders’ inalienable right to secede from British rule.
The Inalienable Right To Secede
by Scott Lazarowitz
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/lazarowitz2.1.1.html
by Scott Lazarowitz
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/lazarowitz2.1.1.html
Let’s consider what happens if a number of states secede peacefully.
The Monroe Doctrine would still apply. Seceding Americans would not want to defend the form of government practiced in the states they seceded from any more than they want to defend communism at home or abroad as the federal government now does. So the first thing they must do is agree to defend the continent. That’s assuming the Socialist states want to cooperate in defending territorial integrity. Socialists have never shown a willingness to defend the U.S. of A. against the International community, but they might change their minds when they are out there all by themselves.
China and Russia would be held at bay during the transition period knowing that every state and the current military would still defend America’s current territory.
Setting up a military structure for the purpose of self-defense should not present a problem. Unlike the War Between the States where all of the manufacturing was in the North, much of the machinery is already located in seceding states. Essential industries located abroad can quickly be returned.
Serendipitously, secession automatically wipes out membership in the United Nations. I’d go so far as to suggest following up by criminalizing binding membership in International organizations.
To no one’s surprise, those people who say American states have no Right to secede from their federal government are the same people who claim nations have no Right to secede from the United Nations. Basically, the prohibition refers to smaller nations because I doubt if anyone can stop China, Russia, India, and a few others from seceding if they so choose.
Language
Establishing English as the state language would be next. That would help insure that North America does not degenerate in a bunch of warring states speaking different languages like Europe.
The Constitution
The next thing seceding states must do is update the original Constitution and Bill of Rights along the lines the Founders laid out. All of the avenues that led to the welfare state, along with the creation and growth of a parasite class, can be closed off quite easily simply by defining necessary government. If it ain’t necessary it does not get a penny from the public treasury. The beauty there is that politicians cannot buy votes with tax dollars as Democrats have been doing since the FDR years.
It goes without saying that a tax on income will also be eliminated constitutionally for all time.
Citizenship
American citizens would have five years to establish citizenship in a seceding state. At the end of five years dual citizenship would not be honored in any way. Primarily, citizenship would be established to protect property Rights, employment, legal Rights, and insuring that only citizens are issued passports for travel outside the original 50 states. Travel between states that seceded and those states that chose collectivism should not require travel papers.
Finally, since 1945 the federal government handed large portions of America’s sovereignty to the United Nations with more to go. I truly believe that the United States withdrawing from the United Nations would end the Secession Movement in order for each state to regain their own sovereignty. In truth, States like Texas are fighting two enemies:
1. The federal government.
2. The United Nations.
