Scott Pruitt begins bulldozing the Obama climate legacy!!

[skookerasbil]

Pruitt: EPA no longer about killing off coal
by John Siciliano | Apr 20, 2017, 2:43 PM

The Environmental Protection Agency is no longer about "regulating an entire industry out of business," EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt said Thursday, visiting a large coal-fired power plant in Missouri that likely would have been forced to close under the Obama EPA's climate plan.

"When EPA asked for comments from the public on its Clean Power Plan in 2013, Missouri electric cooperative members responded with more than 300,000 comments, all with a common theme: 'Don't raise our rates, and we want an all-of-the-above energy strategy that keeps electricity affordable and creates jobs,'" said Barry Hart, executive vice president and CEO of the Association of Missouri Electric Cooperatives. But those comments "fell on deaf ears."

Pruitt: EPA no longer about killing off coal


Also.....watch vid........speaks to the Paris Agreement being on life support right now. When it goes belly up due to US withdrawal, don't worry........you guys in here will be the first to know with a HUGE celebratory thread............with lots of PHOTOBUCKET Classics

 

[Luddly Neddite]

He's perfect for the 1% - stealing our future in order to enrich himself, the pussy grabber and the rest of the 1% swamp. And these crooks are stealing from right under our noses.

RWNJs must not have children or grand children.

Or maybe they just really despise them.

 

[mamooth]

And coal is _still_ dead.

Skook apparently wants billions in tax money to subsidize it, but it won't help. Coal is still dead. Socialist Republican politicians can try to have government interfere with the free market, but such socialism always has bad economic results.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

And coal is _still_ dead.

Skook apparently wants billions in tax money to subsidize it, but it won't help. Coal is still dead. Socialist Republican politicians can try to have government interfere with the free market, but such socialism always has bad economic results.

Its great that men will no longer have to go underground to fill the pockets of evil bastards.

 

[mamooth]

People do say "I'm proud to be a coal miner's son/daughter."

Nobody ever says "I want my son to be a coal miner."

 

[Old Rocks]

This says it all.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

People do say "I'm proud to be a coal miner's son/daughter."

Nobody ever says "I want my son to be a coal miner."

My family were colliers and a lot of my school mates went underground. I grew up in an amazing mining community but I was glad that I never had to do that work and I am even more relieved that my kids dont have to.

 

[Old Rocks]

The GOP legacy and that of the orange clown is going to be dead watersheds, filthy air, and early death from black lung for the men that go down in the holes. And the 'Conservatives' here are so proud of that. I wish every one of them could have the pleasure of dying of black lung in their 50's.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The GOP legacy and that of the orange clown is going to be dead watersheds, filthy air, and early death from black lung for the men that go down in the holes. And the 'Conservatives' here are so proud of that. I wish every one of them could have the pleasure of dying of black lung in their 50's.

I dont think they come from mining towns.

 

[skookerasbil]

Yep.....coal sure is dead.............

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Would you like me to post up the most recent Obama EIA projections graph from late 2016 that says the same thing?



Why do you think the green crusaders are seen by the whole planet as Disney dwellers?

 

[skookerasbil]

The green crusaders are suckers.........we keep hearing in here how "coal is dead".................

The Energy Information Administration (EIA) in its International Energy Outlook 2013 projects that China will remain dependent on coal as its major generating technology through 2040 via the construction of 527 gigawatts of new coal-fired generating capacity over the 30 year projection period, almost doubling its current coal-fired generating capacity. In 2010, China generated 77 percent of its electricity using coal; by 2040, EIA projects that coal’s share of China’s generating market will drop to 63 percent, but that it will still remain the major supplier of electricity in the country. (See graph below.)

China Will Continue to Use Coal as a Major Generating Source - IER




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[skookerasbil]

More statistics on how dead coal production will be 25 years from now.................


https://www.statista.com/statistics/652113/forecast-of-global-coal-production/





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[skookerasbil]

The USMB really does need to develop a bumpy cucumber emoticon!!


Watch Scott Pruitt, Trump's EPA Chief, Decimate The EPA In Congressional Testimony: (It's HILARIOUS That Trump Picked This Guy, He's One Of Us!)
By Martin Hill
LibertyFight.com
Dec. 9, 2016



http://libertyfight.com/2016/Scott-Pruitt-EPA.html



lol..........what was that about the coal miners?

 

[flacaltenn]

People do say "I'm proud to be a coal miner's son/daughter."

Nobody ever says "I want my son to be a coal miner."

You ever watch "October Sky" ? It's a actual story of future scientists engineers that came out of a coal town.
Their fathers were expecting them to continue the tradition.

Anyways -- the only reason that coal was declared dead, was the braindead UNscientific decision on the part of the EPA to declare CO2 as a pollutant. Which it is not. If you get your mind right about the science, then you can see why coal is NOT dead.

The reason is -- there is new technology to greatly reduce the stack pollution -- the REAL particulate, SOx, NOx, heavy metal stuff that hurts people. What EPA did -- was to deny maintenance waivers for UPGRADES to the pollution control equipment used on the plants if they did not SIMULTANEOUSLY reduce the CO2 emissions. Without that ARBITRARY EDICT -- and the fallacy of CO2 sequestration, we can GREATLY reduce the harmful emissions from these plants.

If coal is dead -- then the "alternative" eco-nuts need to scratch "biomass conversion" (read that burning garbage and trees) --- is similarly dead. Truth is -- the LARGEST polluting coal plants live in the Govt run TVA region. And they have deferred maintenance and upgrades for decades. With that infrastructure upgrade, coal is actually alive and well.

SOMEONE will make that investment now...

 

[skookerasbil]

Oh.....and readers of this thread are urged to go check any graph of where America gets its energy from..........yet you will see fabulous links posted on the "skyrocketing growth of solar.............."

Go look at any graph of the electricity breakdown by energy form...........YOU WILL LAUGH YOUR ASS OFF!!



The OCD climate crusaders NEVER, NEVER show you that stats compared to total energy production by "type". As always, the progressive's argument always falls flat on its face when it has to be compared to something!!

 

[mamooth]

And after all that whining, coal is _still_ dead.

Hey skook, why don't you invest in coal? Pay no attention to how every US coal company went bankrupt. I'm sure it will take off again. Really it will. Trump and the commie-socialist Republicans will subsidize coal with billions of taxpayer cash, and you can sponge off that taxpayer money, like every good conservative does in every aspect of their lives.

Even better, let's have a wager. Name your terms. As long as it's an even bet, I'll take them, that's how sure I am. I bet that in 4 years, there will be fewer coal jobs in the USA than there are now.

So, do you have the balls to back up your whining? We all know you don't, but I thought I'd give you a chance.

 

[Old Rocks]

Categoryroposed coal plants in the United States

Beginning around the year 2000, in response to increases in natural gas prices, utilities across the United States began a renewed push to build new coal-fired electricity generating plants. By the spring of 2007, approximately 150 such projects were either under construction or in various stages of planning. The National Energy Technology Laboratory, a division of the Department of Energy, maintained a database of such projects, but ceased providing project-specific information as of May 2007. Since that report, scores of coal-fired power plants have been canceled, but new proposals have appeared

Category:Proposed coal plants in the United States - SourceWatch

Most of the proposed coal fired plants were never built.

 

[Old Rocks]

DONG Energy, EnBW to Build First Unsubsidized European Offshore Wind Farms
Apr 17, 2017

DONG Energy, the 240-MW OWP West and the 240-MW Borkum Riffgrund West 2, were awarded the rights to build in the German North sea at a bid price of zero dollars per MWh, the company announced.

EnBW also won a no-subsidy bid for the 900-MW He Dreiht project during the same auction.

The New York Times noted the winning bids without subsidies are an industry first.

“Offshore wind is categorically proving its competitiveness,” Jochen Homann, president of the Bundesnetzagentur, the Geman agency that held the auction, said in a statement. “This is good news for all electricity consumers who contribute to funding renewable energy.”

DONG was awarded a third project, the 110-MW Gode Wind 3, at a subsidized bid price of $64 per MW/h during the auction.
DONG Energy, EnBW to Build First Unsubsidized European Offshore Wind Farms

Again, wind and solar are ready to stand on their own. Our investments in there development has paid off handsomely.

 

[Old Rocks]

Nearly half of US coal is produced by companies that have declared bankruptcy — and Trump won’t fix that

By choosing Scott Pruitt, an outspoken opponent of environmental rules and ally of the fossil fuel industry, to head the EPA, Donald Trump seems to be sending a message that, as promised, his administration will attempt to roll back air quality regulations and open more federal land to coal mining.

But those efforts won’t counteract the market trend enough to restore coal to its former prominence. Energy industry executives have suggested they aren’t likely to return to coal no matter what Trump does, and even Mitch McConnell warned that it's hard to tell whether conservatives' pro-coal efforts will really bring business back, since "it’s a private sector activity."

Throughout his campaign, Trump repeatedly blamed what he called “Obama’s war on coal” for this stark decline, alleging that government regulation was killing American jobs and making the country less energy independent.

The sector is indeed in a downward spiral. Coal production in the beginning of 2016 hit the lowest level it's been since a major strike in 1981, and that the current number of coal employees (approximately 66,000 in 2015) is the lowest on record since the US Energy Information Administration began collecting data in 1978.

But while air quality rules and renewable energy subsidies have created incentives to move away from coal, the irony is that the real opponent in the "war" is the free market.

Nearly half of US coal is produced by companies that have declared bankruptcy — and Trump won’t fix that

As we can see, already renewables are beating dirty coal on a level playing field. And even allowing the coal fired plants and mining operations to freely pollute the air and water will not change that.