Scientists: Study shows African Americans possess violence gene

[flacaltenn]

This is why a thread like this just CAN'T get any traction if no one really CARES about the science... And why the LAST place you want to analyse this for ya is some bigot hater racist website specializing in jumping to conclusions based on one or two studies they don't fully understand.

It would take me a couple DAYS to fully understand those papers and their relationship to the REST of science on the MAO gene thing, but I could do that...

 

[IM2]

This thread should not even be open. How is this not a topic purposefully meant to start fights?

The records of modern history debunks this crap, rendering it to a lie. This is a topic discussed at stormfront but somehow it is not seen as race baiting. It's sad what goes on in places like this..

 

[IM2]

This is why a thread like this just CAN'T get any traction if no one really CARES about the science... And why the LAST place you want to analyse this for ya is some bigot hater racist website specializing in jumping to conclusions based on one or two studies they don't fully understand.

It would take me a couple DAYS to fully understand those papers and their relationship to the REST of science on the MAO gene thing, but I could do that...

There is no science here. It's pure racism.

 

[flacaltenn]

This is why a thread like this just CAN'T get any traction if no one really CARES about the science... And why the LAST place you want to analyse this for ya is some bigot hater racist website specializing in jumping to conclusions based on one or two studies they don't fully understand.

It would take me a couple DAYS to fully understand those papers and their relationship to the REST of science on the MAO gene thing, but I could do that...

There is no science here. It's pure racism.

If course there's science here.. THere's just no conclusion that it MEANS anything to the demographics of violence.. The pandora's box is opened. And DNA science isn't always gonna be "politically correct"...

But when papers APPEAR to suggest racist things --- there's a ton more papers that disagree... If we all loved science as much as I do --- we'd SPEND a week reading and studying and debating all the theories and ideas about linking this particular gene complex to behavior...

But instead we get flaming and name-calling and fights over fundamental misunderstandings of what that paper in the OP says...

 

[Snouter]

Blacks and Browns get butthurt everytime that the fairy tales of Afro-Centrism are proven to be a lie. Just like with "reparations." They are butthurt because biologically that was the best their intellect could do back in the day. So they want some way to avenge REALITY. I could argue I am butthurt that a hot, Italian chick broke up with me back in the day, but "reparations" would be a sick act of revenge on her personal decision. She always had a rug burn on her lower back because I was kind of routine in the banging dept. so I do not blame her at all. It was fun while it lasted and am actually thankful it did not work out. Blacks and Browns need to own up to the fact their behavior is generally quite different than Europeans and Asians who generally have much higher IQs.

 

[IM2]

This is why a thread like this just CAN'T get any traction if no one really CARES about the science... And why the LAST place you want to analyse this for ya is some bigot hater racist website specializing in jumping to conclusions based on one or two studies they don't fully understand.

It would take me a couple DAYS to fully understand those papers and their relationship to the REST of science on the MAO gene thing, but I could do that...

There is no science here. It's pure racism.

If course there's science here.. THere's just no conclusion that it MEANS anything to the demographics of violence.. The pandora's box is opened. And DNA science isn't always gonna be "politically correct"...

But when papers APPEAR to suggest racist things --- there's a ton more papers that disagree... If we all loved science as much as I do --- we'd SPEND a week reading and studying and debating all the theories and ideas about linking this particular gene complex to behavior...

But instead we get flaming and name-calling and fights over fundamental misunderstandings of what that paper in the OP says...

That's about the same kind of science that created drapetomania. And if this was some "science" that was presented by someone black, you would dismiss it just as you have dismissed every other accomplishment by blacks that have been mentioned here.

 

[abu afak]

FACT BREAK!
Google: testosterone in healthy black males
Helps in sports, maybe not so good for Aggressive Behavior.
Seems Black males under 30 got extra - as do our prisons.

Serum testosterone levels in healthy young black and white men.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3455741 by R Ross - ‎1986 - ‎Cited by 516 - ‎Related articles J Natl Cancer Inst. 1986 Jan;76(1):45-8. Serum testosterone levels in healthy young black and white men. Ross R, Bernstein L, Judd H, Hanisch R, Pike M, ...

Racial variation in sex steroid hormone concentration in black and ...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4327897/ by A Richard - ‎2014 - ‎Cited by 24 - ‎Related articlesMar 20, 2014 - Depending on the free testosterone concentration in white men, this ... Center for HealthStatistics, 2012), blacks having a higher incidence of ...
‎INTRODUCTION · ‎METHODS · ‎RESULTS · ‎DISCUSSION

Testosterone Is High among Young Black Men with Little ... - Frontiers
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fsoc.2016.00001/full by A Mazur - ‎2016 - ‎Cited by 1 - ‎Related articlesFeb 18, 2016 - Testosterone Is High among Young Black Men with Little Education .... is designed to assess the health and nutritional status of American ...
‎Introduction · ‎Materials and Methods · ‎Results · ‎Discussion
....
Serum Testosterone Levels in Healthy Young Black and White Men 1,2
Serum Testosterone Levels in Healthy Young Black and White Men 2 by R Ross - ‎1986 - ‎Cited by 515 - ‎Related articles
Serum Testosterone Levels in Healthy Young. Black and White Men 1,2. Ronald Ross, M.D., 3 Leslie Bernstein, Ph.D., 3 Howard Judd, M.D., 4 Rosemarie ...

Racial differences in testosterone: Black men have highest, white men .
https://www.tremr.com/Duck.../racial-differences-in-testosterone-black-men-have-hig... Racial differences in testosterone: Black men have highest, white men in the middle, Asian men have the least ... 21% higher in black males than white males and mean testosterone levels being 19% higher in black males: ... health & fitness ...

Serum Androgen Concentrations in Young Men: A Longitudinal ...
cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/11/10/1041.full-text.pdf by SM Gapstur - ‎2002 - ‎Cited by 237 - ‎Related articles
posed (2) that differences in testosterone levels between black and white men could .... in average time of blood draw between black and white men. Aliquots of ...

Racial Differences in Age-Related Variations of Testosterone Levels ...
Racial Differences in Age-Related Variations of Testosterone Levels Among US Males: Potential Implications for Prostate Cancer and Personalized Medication by H Hu - ‎2015 - ‎Cited by 8 - ‎Related articles
Sep 11, 2014 - Journal of Racial and Ethnic Health Disparities ... Our study revealed that testosteronelevels in black males decrease substantially with ...

The age-testosterone relationship in black, white, and Mexican ...
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/13685530903071802 by A Mazur - ‎2009 - ‎Cited by 25 - ‎Related articles
Testosterone and SHBG in males are described precisely over the age ... years, black men average 0.39 ng/ml higher testosterone than white and MA men (p5 ...

(PDF) Black Males and Testosterone Evolution and Perspectives ...
https://www.academia.edu/.../Black_Males_and_Testosterone_Evolution_and_Perspec... Black males are exposed to higher testosterone levels from the very start. ... for Health Statistics had earlier collected as part of its Third National Health and ...

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[Asclepias]

FACT BREAK!
Google: testosterone in healthy black males
Helps in sports, maybe not so good for Aggressive Behavior.
Seems Black males under 30 got extra - as do our prisons.

Serum testosterone levels in healthy young black and white men.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3455741 by R Ross - ‎1986 - ‎Cited by 516 - ‎Related articles J Natl Cancer Inst. 1986 Jan;76(1):45-8. Serum testosterone levels in healthy young black and white men. Ross R, Bernstein L, Judd H, Hanisch R, Pike M, ...

Racial variation in sex steroid hormone concentration in black and ...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4327897/ by A Richard - ‎2014 - ‎Cited by 24 - ‎Related articlesMar 20, 2014 - Depending on the free testosterone concentration in white men, this ... Center for HealthStatistics, 2012), blacks having a higher incidence of ...
‎INTRODUCTION · ‎METHODS · ‎RESULTS · ‎DISCUSSION

Testosterone Is High among Young Black Men with Little ... - Frontiers
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fsoc.2016.00001/full by A Mazur - ‎2016 - ‎Cited by 1 - ‎Related articlesFeb 18, 2016 - Testosterone Is High among Young Black Men with Little Education .... is designed to assess the health and nutritional status of American ...
‎Introduction · ‎Materials and Methods · ‎Results · ‎Discussion
....
Serum Testosterone Levels in Healthy Young Black and White Men 1,2
Serum Testosterone Levels in Healthy Young Black and White Men 2 by R Ross - ‎1986 - ‎Cited by 515 - ‎Related articles
Serum Testosterone Levels in Healthy Young. Black and White Men 1,2. Ronald Ross, M.D., 3 Leslie Bernstein, Ph.D., 3 Howard Judd, M.D., 4 Rosemarie ...

Racial differences in testosterone: Black men have highest, white men .
https://www.tremr.com/Duck.../racial-differences-in-testosterone-black-men-have-hig... Racial differences in testosterone: Black men have highest, white men in the middle, Asian men have the least ... 21% higher in black males than white males and mean testosterone levels being 19% higher in black males: ... health & fitness ...

Serum Androgen Concentrations in Young Men: A Longitudinal ...
cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/11/10/1041.full-text.pdf by SM Gapstur - ‎2002 - ‎Cited by 237 - ‎Related articles
posed (2) that differences in testosterone levels between black and white men could .... in average time of blood draw between black and white men. Aliquots of ...

Racial Differences in Age-Related Variations of Testosterone Levels ...
Racial Differences in Age-Related Variations of Testosterone Levels Among US Males: Potential Implications for Prostate Cancer and Personalized Medication by H Hu - ‎2015 - ‎Cited by 8 - ‎Related articles
Sep 11, 2014 - Journal of Racial and Ethnic Health Disparities ... Our study revealed that testosteronelevels in black males decrease substantially with ...

The age-testosterone relationship in black, white, and Mexican ...
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/13685530903071802 by A Mazur - ‎2009 - ‎Cited by 25 - ‎Related articles
Testosterone and SHBG in males are described precisely over the age ... years, black men average 0.39 ng/ml higher testosterone than white and MA men (p5 ...

(PDF) Black Males and Testosterone Evolution and Perspectives ...
https://www.academia.edu/.../Black_Males_and_Testosterone_Evolution_and_Perspec... Black males are exposed to higher testosterone levels from the very start. ... for Health Statistics had earlier collected as part of its Third National Health and ...

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Testosterone is what makes you a man. Dont try to make it a bad thing because you arent manly enough to possess it in enough amounts to get white women to want you over a Black man.

 

[IM2]

It's time to close this racist crap thread.

X-Linked Borderline Mental Retardation with Prominent Behavioral Disturbance: Phenotype, Genetic Localization, and Evidence for Disturbed Monoamine Metabolism

This is the title of this study that is linked. NOTHING in this paper, which is 8 pages long, makes any mention of African Americans or any other race. This study was done on a Dutch family and that's all. There is ZERO science in this except scientific racism. This is a lie that originated in white nationalist/ white supremacist web sites.

This was derived from a blog and in that blog are a bunch of linked citations.

Exploring the association between the 2-repeat allele of the MAOA gene promoter polymorphism and psychopathic personality traits, arrests, incarceration, and lifetime antisocial behavior

This is the title where the claim of the African American violence gene. In typical racist fashion this is disingenuous.

Analyses revealed that African-American males who carried the 2-repeat allele were, in comparison with other African-American male genotypes, significantly more likely to be arrested and incarcerated.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912004047

So what this study showed was that a subset of black men who carried this specific gene were more likely to be arrested. Not all African American and you don't have to be violent to get arrested. So we have the white family being studied in the information that was linked:

"We have identified a large Dutch kindred with a new form of X-linked nondysmorphic mild mental retardation. All affected males in this family show very characteristic abnormal behavior, in particular aggressive and sometimes violent behavior. Other types of impulsive behavior include arson, attempted rape, and exhibitionism. Attempted suicide has been reported in a single case. The locus for this disorder could be assigned to the Xpll-21 interval between DXS7 and DXS77 by linkage analysis using markers spanning the X chromosome."

So are we to presume whites possess a gene that makes them mildly retarded?

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Dutch (and other non-jew Europeans and some Chinks) are the smartest races who invented everything. Negros (very inbred which is so many look the same) are among the dumbest. Nobody denies that except the jewish controlled establishment in The West. No need for a recent study.

Black people are the least inbred humans on the planet. Our gene pool is more diverse than all the other populations put together you moron.

There is a reason you recessive monkeys catch all those weird ass diseases. You have horrible genes.

BTW this is from Faux

Whites Genetically Weaker Than Blacks, Study Finds

"The doubly diluted genetic diversity has allowed "bad" mutations to build up in the European population, something that the more genetically varied African population has had more success in weeding out."

History is what tells the truth

 

[flacaltenn]

This is the title of this study that is linked. NOTHING in this paper, which is 8 pages long, makes any mention of African Americans or any other race. This study was done on a Dutch family and that's all. There is ZERO science in this except scientific racism. This is a lie that originated in white nationalist/ white supremacist web sites.

You contradicted yourself in one paragraph.. You CORRECTLY asserted there was nothing about race in the paper linked to OP.. And in the very next sentence --- called the paper "scientific racism"... This kind of sloppy "thinking" doesn't serve science well.... Doesn't put great faith in your analysis..

"We have identified a large Dutch kindred with a new form of X-linked nondysmorphic mild mental retardation. All affected males in this family show very characteristic abnormal behavior, in particular aggressive and sometimes violent behavior. Other types of impulsive behavior include arson, attempted rape, and exhibitionism. Attempted suicide has been reported in a single case. The locus for this disorder could be assigned to the Xpll-21 interval between DXS7 and DXS77 by linkage analysis using markers spanning the X chromosome."

So are we to presume whites possess a gene that makes them mildly retarded?

Again you're ability to analyze anything about these papers is very weak... How could ANYONE jump from ONE Dutch family tree to ALL white people being retarded...

You're MAD because the prevalence of this gene is actually HIGHER in blacks.. Cool down.. It's 5% and there are OTHER papers that dont' show strong links to arrests, incarcerations, and anti-social behavior.. It's YOU that's leaping to conclusions about "racist science" just because some RACISTS thinks there a positive link in American Black population...

But I don't think you have the motivation or inclination to work to show that.. So stop mangling science papers and calling them racist just because you're triggered..... Getting you triggered was the purpose of the OP.....

 

[IM2]

This is the title of this study that is linked. NOTHING in this paper, which is 8 pages long, makes any mention of African Americans or any other race. This study was done on a Dutch family and that's all. There is ZERO science in this except scientific racism. This is a lie that originated in white nationalist/ white supremacist web sites.

You contradicted yourself in one paragraph.. You CORRECTLY asserted there was nothing about race in the paper linked to OP.. And in the very next sentence --- called the paper "scientific racism"... This kind of sloppy "thinking" doesn't serve science well.... Doesn't put great faith in your analysis..

"We have identified a large Dutch kindred with a new form of X-linked nondysmorphic mild mental retardation. All affected males in this family show very characteristic abnormal behavior, in particular aggressive and sometimes violent behavior. Other types of impulsive behavior include arson, attempted rape, and exhibitionism. Attempted suicide has been reported in a single case. The locus for this disorder could be assigned to the Xpll-21 interval between DXS7 and DXS77 by linkage analysis using markers spanning the X chromosome."

So are we to presume whites possess a gene that makes them mildly retarded?

Again you're ability to analyze anything about these papers is very weak... How could ANYONE jump from ONE Dutch family tree to ALL white people being retarded...

You're MAD because the prevalence of this gene is actually HIGHER in blacks.. Cool down.. It's 5% and there are OTHER papers that dont' show strong links to arrests, incarcerations, and anti-social behavior.. It's YOU that's leaping to conclusions about "racist science" just because some RACISTS thinks there a positive link in American Black population...

But I don't think you have the motivation or inclination to work to show that.. So stop mangling science papers and calling them racist just because you're triggered..... Getting you triggered was the purpose of the OP.....

Sure flacaltenn. Any excuse for white racism.

I didn't contradict shit. I said that the title of the study showed no such thing as was mentioned in the post and there was zero science in this post except scientific racism.

My point was that these studies do not show any genetic prevalence for violence in African Americans. If you knew how to read, you'd understand that I asked were we to presume based on that same type of small sample analysis that whites possess a gene that makes them mentally retarded. You are a racist, therefore you do not have the capability to look and a fake claim based on racism because you believe the shit yourself.

The post in question had several different studies and the information posted stated that black men with a specific genotype or whatever it's called were more prone to getting arrested, not violence. You can get arrested for shoplifting, driving with a suspended license or non violent drug crimes. So the gene did not assume violence, yet you're here arguing in defense of a racist thread that you admit was done to trigger that somehow gets to stay open.

So don't mangle science to fit your racism.

 

[abu afak]

Testosterone is what makes you a man. Dont try to make it a bad thing because you arent manly enough to possess it in enough amounts to get white women to want you over a Black man.

Testosterone is a hormone makes you aggessive. (women have some too, especially black women). An innate "Roid Rage."

Young Black Males (under 30) have the highest amount and by far the highest incarceration rate.
Not a coincidence.
After 30, the difference, and the crime rate vanishes.

This has nothing to do with "white women"
Your answer was Low IQ. Also a problem in Blacks of all ages and anorher genetic reason for their higher crime.

Asians have the Lowest 'T' and by far the lowest Violent crime rates: 1/4 that of Whites, as opposed to 5-8x Higher in Blacks.

IQ
E Asians - 106
White - - - 100
USA Black - 85 (Avg 75% sub-Saharan, 25% white)
Sub-Saharan -70

"Oppressed" USA Blacks earn 10x what the avg Unenslaved sub-Saharan does because they live in a prosperous White run country.

Despite far superior natural resources than Asia, Sub-Sahara is a poor and ungovernable rabble, as IQ would predict.

The Race problem is not due to discrimation but innate and incurable, execpt by genetic manipulation.
You can hope, but until then I expect more stupid and... aggressive replies.
bye
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[GreenAndBlue]

Being agressive does not mean bad


Being agressive towards good is good


Being agressive for harm is bad

The fact that makes one follow the good rules would be logic which decides correctly what is good and bad

History tells us what groups of people have good logic and what groups low logic

Today the crooked education system and deep state is trying to cover up history so that we cannot learn and progress

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Testosterone is what makes you a man. Dont try to make it a bad thing because you arent manly enough to possess it in enough amounts to get white women to want you over a Black man.

Testosterone is a hormone makes you aggessive. (women have some too, especially black women). An innate "Roid Rage."

Young Black Males (under 30) have the highest amount and by far the highest incarceration rate.
Not a coincidence.
After 30, the difference, and the crime rate vanishes.

This has nothing to do with "white women"
Your answer was Low IQ. Also a problem in Blacks of all ages and anorher genetic reason for their higher crime.

Asians have the Lowest 'T' and by far the lowest Violent crime rates: 1/4 that of Whites, as opposed to 5-8x Higher in Blacks.

IQ
E Asians - 106
White - - - 100
USA Black - 85 (Avg 75% sub-Saharan, 25% white)
Sub-Saharan -70

"Oppressed" USA Blacks earn 10x what the avg Unenslaved sub-Saharan does because they live in a prosperous White run country.

Despite far superior natural resources than Asia, Sub-Sahara is a poor and ungovernable rabble, as IQ would predict.

The Race problem is not due to discrimation but innate and incurable, execpt by genetic manipulation.
You can hope, but until then I expect more stupid and... aggressive replies.
bye
`

MAO-A levels also increase with age... (Increases in MAO-A levels make people less likely to be impulsive, violent, or criminal)

MAO-A genes like these which cause more criminality are more common apparently in Men, than Women.

High MAO-A tends to cause depression. (Normal depression)

But, low MAO-A is found in Bi Polar, and Schizophrenia more often, than in normal Depression sufferers.
Of course, Bi Polar, and Schizophrenia are far more violent than typical people with Depression.

Sure, and also one can make the complete opposite conclusion too.

That low Testosterone is linked to mass murder, both in forms of mass shootings, but also in the form of genocide, and war deaths.

Judging by how many mass genocides the East-Asians have taken part in, and how many mass shooters in the USA have been East-Asian for their smaller numbers.

I don't think that Testosterone is much of the culprit.

Some Europeans appear to have a lot more Testosterone than others.

Irish & other British Islanders for example seem to have the lowest Testosterone in Europe, this is judging by studies showing the Irish to be less endowed, and I can't help but to notice that Irish men typically higher pitch voices, less muscle mass, less body hair, less balding, and thinner faces than most Europeans.
(Yes, facial widening is caused by Testosterone)

But, here's the thing, Ireland, and the UK doesn't have a murder rate any lower than the average of Europe.

Probably Poles, Hungarians, and Italians have the most Testosterone in Europe.
This is judging by studies showing them to be more endowed, and I can't help but to notice that these men typically deeper pitch voices, more muscle mass, more body hair, more balding, and wider faces than most Europeans.
(Yes, facial widening is caused by Testosterone)

But, the murder rate of these groups is similar to Ireland & Great Britain.

But, if we look at mass murder, then these groups have mass murdered far less than the Irish, or British.

Yes, Irish both Catholics, and Irish Protestants used to kill each other a ton over massacres / mass shootings.

As for genocide, British are crown champions...

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

FACT BREAK!
Google: testosterone in healthy black males
Helps in sports, maybe not so good for Aggressive Behavior.
Seems Black males under 30 got extra - as do our prisons.

Serum testosterone levels in healthy young black and white men.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3455741 by R Ross - ‎1986 - ‎Cited by 516 - ‎Related articles J Natl Cancer Inst. 1986 Jan;76(1):45-8. Serum testosterone levels in healthy young black and white men. Ross R, Bernstein L, Judd H, Hanisch R, Pike M, ...

Racial variation in sex steroid hormone concentration in black and ...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4327897/ by A Richard - ‎2014 - ‎Cited by 24 - ‎Related articlesMar 20, 2014 - Depending on the free testosterone concentration in white men, this ... Center for HealthStatistics, 2012), blacks having a higher incidence of ...
‎INTRODUCTION · ‎METHODS · ‎RESULTS · ‎DISCUSSION

Testosterone Is High among Young Black Men with Little ... - Frontiers
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fsoc.2016.00001/full by A Mazur - ‎2016 - ‎Cited by 1 - ‎Related articlesFeb 18, 2016 - Testosterone Is High among Young Black Men with Little Education .... is designed to assess the health and nutritional status of American ...
‎Introduction · ‎Materials and Methods · ‎Results · ‎Discussion
....
Serum Testosterone Levels in Healthy Young Black and White Men 1,2
Serum Testosterone Levels in Healthy Young Black and White Men 2 by R Ross - ‎1986 - ‎Cited by 515 - ‎Related articles
Serum Testosterone Levels in Healthy Young. Black and White Men 1,2. Ronald Ross, M.D., 3 Leslie Bernstein, Ph.D., 3 Howard Judd, M.D., 4 Rosemarie ...

Racial differences in testosterone: Black men have highest, white men .
https://www.tremr.com/Duck.../racial-differences-in-testosterone-black-men-have-hig... Racial differences in testosterone: Black men have highest, white men in the middle, Asian men have the least ... 21% higher in black males than white males and mean testosterone levels being 19% higher in black males: ... health & fitness ...

Serum Androgen Concentrations in Young Men: A Longitudinal ...
cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/11/10/1041.full-text.pdf by SM Gapstur - ‎2002 - ‎Cited by 237 - ‎Related articles
posed (2) that differences in testosterone levels between black and white men could .... in average time of blood draw between black and white men. Aliquots of ...

Racial Differences in Age-Related Variations of Testosterone Levels ...
Racial Differences in Age-Related Variations of Testosterone Levels Among US Males: Potential Implications for Prostate Cancer and Personalized Medication by H Hu - ‎2015 - ‎Cited by 8 - ‎Related articles
Sep 11, 2014 - Journal of Racial and Ethnic Health Disparities ... Our study revealed that testosteronelevels in black males decrease substantially with ...

The age-testosterone relationship in black, white, and Mexican ...
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/13685530903071802 by A Mazur - ‎2009 - ‎Cited by 25 - ‎Related articles
Testosterone and SHBG in males are described precisely over the age ... years, black men average 0.39 ng/ml higher testosterone than white and MA men (p5 ...

(PDF) Black Males and Testosterone Evolution and Perspectives ...
https://www.academia.edu/.../Black_Males_and_Testosterone_Evolution_and_Perspec... Black males are exposed to higher testosterone levels from the very start. ... for Health Statistics had earlier collected as part of its Third National Health and ...

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I've taken Supplements / fruits / herbs which supposedly alter Testosterone, for lifting weights, like Longjack extract, Cordyceps, Pomegrante, Goji Berries, Tribulis, Fenugreek, Garlic, (ZMA) Zinc, Magnesium, and B6, and so forth
and
I can't say I've felt any more aggressive when taking, rather than when not taking these.

I do however, feel more aggressive if I take diet pills, filled with Caffeine.

Caffeine increases Adrenaline, and lowers MAO-A.... So, I tend to believe that's more of the culprit.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

African Americans possess "violence" gene, researchers find

And the actual study for those that want to read it

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1682278/pdf/ajhg00064-0013.pdf

What a load of BS. Guess what, even if it was true, we are all descended from an
African female, and therefore would carry such a gene.

Also, you do realize that Gregor Stasser was a Hitler nazi don't you?

Genes can isolate long since then through genetic drift / natural selection / bottleneck populations.

This allele on MAO-A is just one such example, being overwhelmingly found in African descent people, even if not exclusively.

Some genes are very racially prone.. Like the HIV / AIDS resistance genes are found almost exclusively in Caucasoids, especially some Northern & Eastern Europeans.

Some genes can be even ethnic specific, like Chinese are the only ethnicity to have a gene on DAB1 causing larger, and more developed brains,
while Finns are the only ethnicity to have a gene on HTR2B causes impulsive behavior.

While, some genes have somewhat ethnic specific genes.
Like
Tay Sachs disease, or Gauchers disease tend to be far more common in Ashkenazi Jews than others.
or
Some genes have somewhat racial specific genes,
Like that the genes for Lactose tolerance are mostly found in Western Eurasians AKA Caucasoids,especially Northern, and Western Europe.
or
that ASPM a gene found mostly in Caucasoids, causes larger, and more developed brains.
or
even that Sickle Cell Anemia is mostly African, but not exclusively African.

 

[abu afak]

The two Posts above are Incoherent, rambling Gibbrish. From Finns to Jews/Tay Sachs.

Naming numerous irrelevant Genes (MAO, DAB1, HTRB, etc) and people's.

Genocide was a least as common in Africa, just smaller in scale due to their smaller tribes, primitive weapons due to their technical backwardness (aka lower IQ)
Not to mention the lack of written languages to record them in. Unlike Asia.

Blacks commit more Violent Crime of all types, because they have higher 'T' and lower IQ.
A dangerous combo.
All testing and Prisons stats bare out my coherent proposition while Sobiewski rambles/ambiguates Incoherently all over the wacky place.
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[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The two Posts above are Incoherent, rambling Gibbrish. From Finns to Jews/Tay Sachs.

Naming numerous irrelevant Genes (MAO, DAB1, HTRB, etc) and people's.

Genocide was a least as common in Africa, just smaller in scale due to their smaller tribes, primitive weapons due to their technical backwardness (aka lower IQ)
Not to mention the lack of written languages to record them in. Unlike Asia.

Blacks commit more Violent Crime of all types, because they have higher 'T' and lower IQ.
A dangerous combo.
All testing and Prisons stats bare out my coherent proposition while Sobiewski rambles/ambiguates Incoherently all over the wacky place.
`

First off MAO-A isn't an irrelevant gene.

It's probably actually the most relevant gene explainin at least a large portion of the Black condition.

I named a bunch of genes specific to groups, to prove to that user there's a ton of different genes specific to different races & even ethnic groups.

Because obviously that user didn't get that genes can isolate so heavily into certain groups.

Nor was those directed towards you.

 

[flacaltenn]

My point was that these studies do not show any genetic prevalence for violence in African Americans. If you knew how to read, you'd understand that I asked were we to presume based on that same type of small sample analysis that whites possess a gene that makes them mentally retarded. You are a racist, therefore you do not have the capability to look and a fake claim based on racism because you believe the shit yourself.

the first study cited in this OP didn't mention race.. Other studies show this gene complex has a 5% prevalence in blacks and 0.1% in whites. There's a disparity there... But what's NOT PROVEN is that this 5% are really more violent or arrested or incarcerated more...

There are OTHER papers on this.. It would clarify the racial distribution of this gene complex if YOU did the work to find them and present them here... I've checked.. They are there. But I'm kinda too busy to be fully engaged in talking science to folks that are just looking for excuses to brawl.....

Science is NOT racist.. If it gets published in a Med Journal or respectable science journal it's because it's RAW knowledge.. NOT a racial challenge. And it's not in their field for DNA/molecular biologists to be making statements on crime statistics or sociology issues.. That's a separate field.