Scientist discovers errors in global warming model

[gtopa1]

Yawn, but then there is this.....

http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/missing-carbon/

CO2 feeds plants. I learned that in 4th grade.

Wow ! Misty is qualified to be an anti-climate science expert

I'm qualified to know that there are many scientist that do not follow the global warming myth and they are ignored. Why be so afraid of differing opinions on climate change? Why not listen to all sides to find the truth?

Many scientists who do not agree with the fact that the globe is warming? Many?

There are some very few who differ on the reasons for the warming, but the evidence is overwhelming. Now, climate science is a specialty field -- how many climate scientists do you follow?

You are not correct. Again one needs to look at from when..the last twenty years for example. Let me say again...AGW MAY be occurring and there may be a mild impact...but end of the worlders will be needing to get back to nutto churches for a new theory!! The fraud is hopefully nearly up....at least scientifically. Politically...there is a lot of money in the old scum suckers yet!!

Greg

 

[gtopa1]

"A former climate modeller for the Government’s Australian Greenhouse Office, with six degrees in applied mathematics, Dr Evans has unpacked the architecture of the basic climate model which underpins all climate science.

He has found that, while the underlying physics of the model is correct, it had been applied incorrectly.

He has fixed two errors and the new corrected model finds the climate’s sensitivity to carbon dioxide (CO2) is much lower than was thought.

It turns out the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has over-estimated future global warming by as much as 10 times, he says.

“Yes, CO2 has an effect, but it’s about a fifth or tenth of what the IPCC says it is. CO2 is not driving the climate; it caused less than 20 per cent of the global warming in the last few decades”.

CO2 is not causing global warming.



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Sorry, this is a non-starter. You violated the inherent truth of liberalism

evidence your objection to the climate science is one of ideology and not science and truth

Just because it's science does not ever mean it's truth.

I'm not sure what that means, but global warming conclusions are pseudo science

try refuting NASA NASA: Climate Change and Global Warming

Something current!!

More Smoking Guns Of Fraud At NASA

Frankly I don't take you lot seriously any more and consider you parasites on the Government funding teat!!

Greg

 

[Misty]

Sorry, this is a non-starter. You violated the inherent truth of liberalism

evidence your objection to the climate science is one of ideology and not science and truth

Just because it's science does not ever mean it's truth.

I'm not sure what that means, but global warming conclusions are pseudo science

try refuting NASA NASA: Climate Change and Global Warming

Something current!!

More Smoking Guns Of Fraud At NASA

Frankly I don't take you lot seriously any more and consider you parasites on the Government funding teat!!

Greg

"The people generating these graphs are fraudsters, not scientists. It is sad a few clueless skeptics still pretend that the NASA/NOAA temperature records are somehow legitimate."

Yep.

 

[Misty]

Remember the hole in the ozone?

""A further scientific goal [of the mission] is the examination of the validity of the so-called atmosphere models. Until now computer simulation models were used for the prediction of certain changes in the atmosphere, as for instance the ozone hole or greenhouse effect, as the only expression of these phenomena. The high quotient of error (1 to 2 errors in 1,000 program steps with a total of 1 million steps) places our "knowledge" of the protective layer of the Earth in question. Crista delivers for the first time scientifically grounded information."

"They discovered thatchanges in the ozone layer were directly caused by the horizontal and vertical movement of air masses (that is, wind dynamics). A close analysis of the data also demonstrated thatchemistry played no role in the thickness of the ozone layer over these stations.Theauthors discuss the implications of their work in detail:"

New Scientific Evidence Proves Ozone Depletion Theory False

We had to give up using aerosol sprays but guess what that wasn't what caused it. Nature caused it.

 

[Kosh]

Well AGW is nothing more than a religious cult at this point..

This is what they believe:

 

[Misty]

Well AGW is nothing more than a religious cult at this point..

This is what they believe:

Yes a very dangerous freedom robbing religion

 

[easyt65]

ERRORS? SAY IT AIN'T SO! LOL
Try 'doctored' numbers, fake data, lies...

 

[Misty]

ERRORS? SAY IT AIN'T SO! LOL
Try 'doctored' numbers, fake data, lies...

They already knew computer models were not accurate but they figured we wouldn't remember how the screwed up the ozone hole. But I do remember.

 

[Misty]

There have already been two threads in the Environment folder where this got laughed at. But I get it, when conservatives get their marching orders, they all rush to obey.

Evans is a clown who botched the math and physics. However, you won't be able to convince a denier of that, being their faith in their conspiracy theory is unshakable. According to them, the last 3 centuries of math and physics are all wrong, overturned by an electrical engineer political fanatic. Yeah, that's probably it.

If Evans isn't a clown, he merely needs to use his theory to make climate predictions, and show those predictions come true. Mainstream climate science has been getting everything right for decades, which is why it has such credibility. Of course, like every other denier, Evans won't have the guts to put his credibility on the line by making predictions, or to submit his work to peer review.

What happened to the hole in the ozone? No more aerosol yet the hole comes and goes gets bigger gets smaller.

Scientist were sure it was aerosol but they were wrong. They used the same computer models as they do for GW.

Now they admit it's caused by nature.

 

[mamooth]

What happened to the hole in the ozone? No more aerosol yet the hole comes and goes gets bigger gets smaller.

The ozone hole has been behaving exactly as scientists predicted. CFC levels are slowly dropping, but are still saturated -- that is, high enough to cause maximum ozone destruction each year -- and will be until around 2025, so the hole will remain somewhat steady at current high levels until then.

So thanks for the example of how the atmospheric scientists were proven to be absolutely correct yet another time, and how you get fooled by every conspiracy crank who comes along. And now you want to replay your ozone faceplant with global warming. A conspiracy crank on a conspiracy crank website published a new crank conspiracy theory, it agreed with your political cult's ideology, so your political cult ordered all of the acolytes to believe, no matter how crazy it makes them look.

Good luck with that. And with your howler monkey buds posting all their fudged and faked data and even crazier conspiracy theories. Yeah, that will really show the world. That's right, the scientists are looking at this board right now, and saying "Oh no! The jig is up! They're on to us." Really they are. Just believe hard enough.

Occam's Razor. The simplest theory that explains all the observed data is most likely correct. What's simpler?

1. A vastsecretglobalsocialistplot involving millions of people exists, with all those millions keeping the secret.

2. Your political cult stinks at science.

 

[Davros]

Of course you'll. try to discredit him.

Any scientist that tried to prove global warming is a lie gets ignored or squelched.

The emperor has no clothes but you like looking at him naked.

Global warming is a lie. A calculated lie.

Why and how would Dante be able to discredit a scientist and his supposed findings?

Weirdo people who get caught up in conspiracies theories usually assume they and others have much more power than they really do.

It is the scientific community that discredits this one lone kook. Dante is only sharing widely available information. It is you Misty that is admiring the Emperor Dr Evans with his supposed new clothes

OMFG 3rd person!

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

So a guy with degrees in math goes on his wife's blog, and he's your credible climate scientist, yet most every single climate scientist in the world agree with the globe has warmed and man has something to do with it?

Okay -- and you and your blogger know more about the science than NASA does NASA: Climate Change and Global Warming

 

[Rustic]

So a scientist -- discovers this?

So the scientific community has NOT been lying if this news is taken to be credible. It only means science was incorrect and gets corrected as time goes on? Wow!

Science at work? What will the right wing denier nuts do now, embrace science and scientists? Nah, they'll talk about Al Gore and other shit

They make it up as they go... One guess is as good as the next.

Florida was supposed to be under water by now... According to the foremost climate scientist, algore

Hashtag pseudoscience

 

[westwall]

Of course you'll. try to discredit him.

Any scientist that tried to prove global warming is a lie gets ignored or squelched.

The emperor has no clothes but you like looking at him naked.

Global warming is a lie. A calculated lie.

Why and how would Dante be able to discredit a scientist and his supposed findings?

Weirdo people who get caught up in conspiracies theories usually assume they and others have much more power than they really do.

It is the scientific community that discredits this one lone kook. Dante is only sharing widely available information. It is you Misty that is admiring the Emperor Dr Evans with his supposed new clothes

Showing yet again that dainty and the majority of progressive don't and can't understand the scientific method. It is the DUTY of every scientist to try and disprove the theories of other scientists. Only political clowns, charlatans, and piss poor scientists EVER make the claim that there is no point in arguing over some scientific theory. The warmists claim the science is settled because they know that when questioned they collapse into a quivering pile of goo.

A scientist, a true scientist revels in the give and take of a point well argued. Only cowards and those who lie, have a desire, and a need, to deny discussion.

 

[westwall]

"A former climate modeller for the Government’s Australian Greenhouse Office, with six degrees in applied mathematics, Dr Evans has unpacked the architecture of the basic climate model which underpins all climate science.

He has found that, while the underlying physics of the model is correct, it had been applied incorrectly.

He has fixed two errors and the new corrected model finds the climate’s sensitivity to carbon dioxide (CO2) is much lower than was thought.

It turns out the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has over-estimated future global warming by as much as 10 times, he says.

“Yes, CO2 has an effect, but it’s about a fifth or tenth of what the IPCC says it is. CO2 is not driving the climate; it caused less than 20 per cent of the global warming in the last few decades”.

CO2 is not causing global warming.



Read more: Australian scientist discovers ERRORS in Global Warming models that COMPLETELY undermine climate theory!!! » The Right Scoop -

Sorry, this is a non-starter. You violated the inherent truth of liberalism

evidence your objection to the climate science is one of ideology and not science and truth

You're the one with the anti science philosophy. You wish to absolutely squelch discussion of the subject. That is as anti science as you can get.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

So a scientist -- discovers this?

So the scientific community has NOT been lying if this news is taken to be credible. It only means science was incorrect and gets corrected as time goes on? Wow!

Science at work? What will the right wing denier nuts do now, embrace science and scientists? Nah, they'll talk about Al Gore and other shit

They make it up as they go... One guess is as good as the next.

Florida was supposed to be under water by now... According to the foremost climate scientist, algore

Hashtag pseudoscience

really? Al Gore predicted that? Hmm... under what circumstances and in what context?

could it have anything to do with scientists and others being asked what they could see happening in 15 to 20 years if nothing changes...As global temperatures rise," when they speculated that warming may cause the massive West Antarctic Ice Sheet to slip more rapidly?

what about theories that
if ice in the polar regions were to melt, the seas will rise dramatically and the results will be calamitous…If this worst-case scenario should occur, in the coming centuries major cities could be abandoned scientists speculated what it could all mean?

None of these seem like scientists as end of the world yahoos. Sounds more like yahoos like you were first frightened by headlines while you totally ignored the conversation

 

[westwall]

So a guy with degrees in math goes on his wife's blog, and he's your credible climate scientist, yet most every single climate scientist in the world agree with the globe has warmed and man has something to do with it?

Okay -- and you and your blogger know more about the science than NASA does NASA: Climate Change and Global Warming

Actually you're the clowns who rely on studies that are pal reviewed...well, how about wife reviewed! The ultimate in scientific fraud and you guys are the master practitioners!


“They were flying at 1,500 feet with the purpose of looking for bowhead whales, which are much larger and easier to spot.”

Ramey also says he sees a conflict of interest for Monnett’s wife to be part of the internal peer review, and questioned the awarding of a contract to Derocher, who also participated in the peer review.

“That’s not impartial,” Ramey said. “It’s really important that peer review be truly independent. If they can’t be, then everyone has to state their conflict right up front.”

Global Warming Link to Drowned Polar Bears Melts Under Searing Fed Probe

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Of course you'll. try to discredit him.

Any scientist that tried to prove global warming is a lie gets ignored or squelched.

The emperor has no clothes but you like looking at him naked.

Global warming is a lie. A calculated lie.

Why and how would Dante be able to discredit a scientist and his supposed findings?

Weirdo people who get caught up in conspiracies theories usually assume they and others have much more power than they really do.

It is the scientific community that discredits this one lone kook. Dante is only sharing widely available information. It is you Misty that is admiring the Emperor Dr Evans with his supposed new clothes

Showing yet again that dainty and the majority of progressive don't and can't understand the scientific method. It is the DUTY of every scientist to try and disprove the theories of other scientists. Only political clowns, charlatans, and piss poor scientists EVER make the claim that there is no point in arguing over some scientific theory. The warmists claim the science is settled because they know that when questioned they collapse into a quivering pile of goo.

A scientist, a true scientist revels in the give and take of a point well argued. Only cowards and those who lie, have a desire, and a need, to deny discussion.

Nah, your math blogger isn't arguing over a theory, he is arguing against the scientific consensus on climate change and global warming

Scientists in a particular field do try and disprove the theories of other scientists and their own theories. You keep relying on the claims of non climate scientists. NASA agrees the science on warming is settled. Now you may disagree with how to deal with it or even with how the specific causes contribute... but ...

... only a lunatic will try and insist the globe has not warmed without offering up credible peer-reviewed, scientific proof refuting the science NASA is relying upon NASA: Climate Change and Global Warming

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

You're the one with the anti science philosophy. You wish to absolutely squelch discussion of the subject. That is as anti science as you can get.

Now you sound exactly like CODE PINK



Dante cannot squelch scientific discussion, He can only post what science has agreed upon, and that is that the field of climate science is where to loo for global warming data and theories. There exists within tthe WORLDWIDE scientific community, a consensus on global warming

your blogger is worse than an outlier, he is demented

 

[The Rabbi]

But the science is settled!