Schumer thinks you're stupid.

[bodecea]

he repeats that the shutdown will be blamed on repubs...ignoring the 60% majority vote requirement on passage of the spending bill. Pay attention, morons.

Congress hurtles toward shutdown

And he's correct.

 

[bendog]

In a Government shutdown, Fat Donnie will be blamed

His lack of leadership will be on display

actually, the orange creep intentionally scuttled the deal they had. that's what his trumpscum wanted. but then they should stop whining like the little beatches they are.

Trump could have ended this last week

Instead his lack of leadership and inability to give a consistent position destroyed all chances of diverting a shutdown

I wonder if his advisors tell him his 35-40% base welcomes a shutdown? Or, he may have looked at the deal he's agreed to that gave him the money to start wall construction and limits to chain immigration in exchange for DACA, and decided it wasn't good enough after all. I think the dems were willing to throw in about anything having to do with e-verify. It's pretty stupid at any rate. When the gop refused to vote unless Obamacare was repealed, you knew that was a loser, because everyone knew Obama would never cave over that. But here you have everyone willing to make some compromise. It blew up.

And now McConnell refuses to do a five day or whatever short term to work another deal, and both party seems to think the other party will "get the blame."

 

[The Original Tree]

• So wait, the Dems want to punish Children and deny them healthcare through Chips...
• They also want to punish The Military and deprive them of funding and equipment and non essential personnel.
• They apparently want to close down all National Monuments too.
• And they want to lay off thousands of Federal Employees.

And the reason for this?

They don't want a DACA executive order which circumvented immigration law to expire.

So once again, they want to screw Americans in favor of Criminal Illegal Aliens.

You Go Girl!

The House already passed this, so this is strictly on the shoulder of THE DEMS in THE SENATE.

Good luck with 2018 midterms Demtards after this stunt!

 

[Darkwind]

Nine million children are going to suffer for Schumer's tantrum.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

he repeats that the shutdown will be blamed on repubs...ignoring the 60% majority vote requirement on passage of the spending bill. Pay attention, morons.

Congress hurtles toward shutdown

Cons are in charge.

And democrats can filibuster the bill making it impossible to pass.
It's on the dems 100%

 

[rightwinger]

In a Government shutdown, Fat Donnie will be blamed

His lack of leadership will be on display

actually, the orange creep intentionally scuttled the deal they had. that's what his trumpscum wanted. but then they should stop whining like the little beatches they are.

Trump could have ended this last week

Instead his lack of leadership and inability to give a consistent position destroyed all chances of diverting a shutdown

I wonder if his advisors tell him his 35-40% base welcomes a shutdown? Or, he may have looked at the deal he's agreed to that gave him the money to start wall construction and limits to chain immigration in exchange for DACA, and decided it wasn't good enough after all. I think the dems were willing to throw in about anything having to do with e-verify. It's pretty stupid at any rate. When the gop refused to vote unless Obamacare was repealed, you knew that was a loser, because everyone knew Obama would never cave over that. But here you have everyone willing to make some compromise. It blew up.

And now McConnell refuses to do a five day or whatever short term to work another deal, and both party seems to think the other party will "get the blame."

Actually, you could give them ten years and Congress won't agree on a budget
They are unable to compromise even on the most basic issues

Just pass a permanent continuing resolution at current levels

 

[rightwinger]

he repeats that the shutdown will be blamed on repubs...ignoring the 60% majority vote requirement on passage of the spending bill. Pay attention, morons.

Congress hurtles toward shutdown

Cons are in charge.

And democrats can filibuster the bill making it impossible to pass.
It's on the dems 100%

Trump is the President

He is Donnie Dealmaker. His inability to get this done shows once again he is incapable of doing his job

 

[WorldWatcher]

And democrats can filibuster the bill making it impossible to pass.
It's on the dems 100%

The GOP can pass cloture with a simple majority with a precedent vote. Doesn't take a single DEM vote to break the filibuster.

The legislation can then be passed with a simple majority.


>>>>

 

[dudmuck]

he repeats that the shutdown will be blamed on repubs...ignoring the 60% majority vote requirement on passage of the spending bill. Pay attention, morons.

Congress hurtles toward shutdown

Cons are in charge.

And democrats can filibuster the bill making it impossible to pass.
It's on the dems 100%

I didnt realize the minority party had so much power.

 

[BluesLegend]

Trump has already labeled it the Schumer Shutdown own it libs you traitors.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

he repeats that the shutdown will be blamed on repubs...ignoring the 60% majority vote requirement on passage of the spending bill. Pay attention, morons.

Congress hurtles toward shutdown

Cons are in charge.

And democrats can filibuster the bill making it impossible to pass.
It's on the dems 100%

I didnt realize the minority party had so much power.

It only takes one person to filibuster. It's not my fault you didn't "realize" what most know.

 

[WorldWatcher]

It only takes one person to filibuster. It's not my fault you didn't "realize" what most know.

It only takes one person to filibuster.

Now, how many people does it take to challenge the current rule (answer 1) on cloture), and then how many does it take to establish a new precedent to pass a cloture vote (end a filibuster)?


Do you know?


>>>>

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

It only takes one person to filibuster. It's not my fault you didn't "realize" what most know.

It only takes one person to filibuster.

Now, how many people does it take to challenge the current rule (answer 1) on cloture), and then how many does it take to establish a new precedent to pass a cloture vote (end a filibuster)?


Do you know?


>>>>

Understanding the Filibuster



Purpose and History of the Filibuster

The filibuster was initially conceived of as a way to ensure that minority opinions were heard and understood before the Senate voted on an issue. Senate rules first allowed for filibusters in 1806, though the first filibuster actually occurred more than 30 years later, in 1837. They continued to be rare for more than another century.

The idea behind the filibuster was simple: As long as a senator kept talking on the floor, a bill could not move forward. Throughout the 19th century, the Senate left ending the filibuster up to the filibustering senators. When they felt they had been adequately heard, they could give up the floor and allow debate to move on to a vote.

In 1917, at the behest of President Wilson, the Senate adopted a procedure known as the cloture vote, which could end a filibuster. If a cloture vote is called for, a super-majority of senators can force an end to debate and bring the question under consideration to an up-or-down vote. Initially, achieving cloture required a vote from two thirds of all elected senators; the number was later changed to three fifths of all elected senators. For the next sixty years, the filibuster continued to be used sparingly.

In 1975, though, the Senate made a change that made it significantly easier to filibuster by adopting rules that allow other business to be conducted while a filibuster is, technically underway. Since 1975, senators have not needed to stand up on the floor and make their case to their colleagues and their constituents in order to halt legislation. Instead, these “virtual filibusters” can be conducted in absentia.

Use of the Filibuster

The filibuster has been used 1,300times since 1917. However, the vast majority of those filibusters have taken place in recent years.

Filibuster use began to increase dramatically in the 1970s. Even so, there still had only been a grand total of 413 Senate filibusters by 1990. Over the last 12 years, however, the filibuster was used nearly 600 times!

These filibusters aren’t just being used to extend debates or stall votes—today, senators filibuster motions to proceed, preventing bills from being debated at all. A device intended to promote comprehensive discussion has turned into a tool to keep ideas from even being heard.

Effects of the Filibuster

Even with the 1975 rules change allowing the Senate to conduct other business while a filibuster is underway, every filibuster kicks off a complex set of Senate procedures that can bring the Senate to a halt for up to a week and prevents other critical issues from being addressed.

Filibusters on motions to proceed prevent the Senate from even being able to consider ideas for how to solve our country’s big problems. For years now, small numbers of senators representing as little as 11% of the country have kept the Senate from even discussing important legislation that has passed committee review.

Virtual Filibusters allow small numbers of senators to effortlessly place personal political agendas above the work of government with no consequence. As a result, even routine Senate functions like approving executive appointees get mired in partisan politics, resulting in 85 vacancies on federal judiciary benches. Major pieces of legislation, including a bill that would have provided medical care for 9/11 responders, have enjoyed majority support in the Senate yet died in the face of filibusters for lack of cloture.

Legislation that should pass into law has been canceled and courts have been thrown into disarray, but the senators who have helped make that happen have never needed to actually make a case to their colleagues or their constituents.

Written by Rick Barry

Sources:

Hearing on The History of the Filibuster: Hearing before the U.S. Senate Committee on Rules and Administration (testimony of Sarah Binders) retrieved from The History of the Filibuster

Klein, E.(2012, May 15).Is the filibuster unconstitutional?.The Washington Post. Retrieved from Is the filibuster unconstitutional?

Filinuster and Cloture Retreived from U.S. Senate: Filibuster and Cloture

Dr. Benishek:Filibuster reform key to end gridlock in Confress.[Press release] Retrieved from http://benishek.house.gov/press-release/dr-benishek-“filibuster-reform-key-ending-gridlock-congress”

Roth, M.(2012,April 8). Senate filibuster no longer requires long floor speech.Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Retrieved from Senate filibuster no longer requires long floor speech

(2012, January 28). Filibustering nominees must end.The New York Times. Retrieved from Opinion | Filibustering Nominees Must End

Smith, J.(2010, December 17). Majority does not rule in filibuster-filled 111th Congress. National Journal. Retrieved from http://www.nationaljournal.com/dail...-in-filibuster-filled-111th-congress-20101216

Binder, S. & Mann, T.,(1995). Slaying the dragon:the case for reforming the senate filibuster. The Brookings Review, 13(3), 42-46 Retrieved from Slaying the Dinosaur: The Case for Reforming the Senate Filibuster on JSTOR

Gold, M. (2008). Senate Procedure and Practice. Rowman & Littlefield.





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[WorldWatcher]

It only takes one person to filibuster. It's not my fault you didn't "realize" what most know.

It only takes one person to filibuster.

Now, how many people does it take to challenge the current rule (answer 1) on cloture), and then how many does it take to establish a new precedent to pass a cloture vote (end a filibuster)?


Do you know?


>>>>

Understanding the Filibuster

Didn't even read your wall of text and funky pictures, they didn't disprove anything I said.

#1 The cloture rules can be changed by a challenge resolved by a simple majority (Actions that have already occurred by Reid in changing the filibuster for Federal Judges and McConnell for getting Gorsuch on the SCOTUS.)

#2 Once the cloture rule is changed, it only takes a simple majority to end debate and bring the bill to the floor.

#3 It only takes a simple majority to pass the legislation under the new precedent.



>>>>

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

It only takes one person to filibuster. It's not my fault you didn't "realize" what most know.

It only takes one person to filibuster.

Now, how many people does it take to challenge the current rule (answer 1) on cloture), and then how many does it take to establish a new precedent to pass a cloture vote (end a filibuster)?


Do you know?


>>>>

Understanding the Filibuster

Didn't even read your wall of text and funky pictures, they didn't disprove anything I said.

#1 The cloture rules can be changed by a challenge resolved by a simple majority (Actions that have already occurred by Reid in changing the filibuster for Federal Judges and McConnell for getting Gorsuch on the SCOTUS.)

#2 Once the cloture rule is changed, it only takes a simple majority to end debate and bring the bill to the floor.

#3 It only takes a simple majority to pass the legislation under the new precedent.



>>>>

Changing the rules is suicide. Eventually the left regains control and abuses them. Having said that your point is irrelevant as we are functioning under current rules not you made up bs.

 

[g5000]

he repeats that the shutdown will be blamed on repubs...ignoring the 60% majority vote requirement on passage of the spending bill. Pay attention, morons.

Congress hurtles toward shutdown

Gosh darn those Democrats! Exploiting the Republican weakness for overspending. Shame on them Dems! Shame!

If'n only those silly Republicans had learned how to write a budget since they took over three years ago, instead of just spending and spending and spending hoping no one would notice.

Well, I guess it worked. The Tard Herd hasn't noticed.

The Republicans own the WHOLE gubmint, and somehow the Tard Herd thinks the Democrats are to blame for all this mess. What a hoot!

Spend, spend, spend.

Now the Republicans are mad because they want to borrow more money from our enemies like Gina and not have anybody git in their way.

Well shoot!

 

[WorldWatcher]

Changing the rules is suicide. Eventually the left regains control and abuses them.

I made no comment about whether it was something they should do.

I'm simply pointing out that the claim the legislation can't be passed without the DEMs is false.

Having said that your point is irrelevant as we are functioning under current rules not you made up bs.

And we functioned under the current rules until Reid changed them (Federal Judges) and McConnell changed them (SCOTUS Jusitices).

So?


>>>>

 

[deltex1]

he repeats that the shutdown will be blamed on repubs...ignoring the 60% majority vote requirement on passage of the spending bill. Pay attention, morons.

Congress hurtles toward shutdown

no, YOU'RE stupid.

you have the House
you have the Senate
you have the White House

keep the government open. it's not our fault that the orange freak opened his big, stupid mouth and purposely kibboshed a deal.

I think dems should give you all the cooperation you gave to dems when President Obama was in office.

pass your own damn bill.

Hysterical. Trump says shithole! Close the government! Stupid....

 

[deltex1]

he repeats that the shutdown will be blamed on repubs...ignoring the 60% majority vote requirement on passage of the spending bill. Pay attention, morons.

Congress hurtles toward shutdown

Gosh darn those Democrats! Exploiting the Republican weakness for overspending. Shame on them Dems! Shame!

If'n only those silly Republicans had learned how to write a budget since they took over three years ago, instead of just spending and spending and spending hoping no one would notice.

Well, I guess it worked. The Tard Herd hasn't noticed.

The Republicans own the WHOLE gubmint, and somehow the Tard Herd thinks the Democrats are to blame for all this mess. What a hoot!

Spend, spend, spend.

Now the Republicans are mad because they want to borrow more money from our enemies like Gina and not have anybody git in their way.

Well shoot!

Where's the button for "uninformative"?

 

[g5000]

Trump won't let the government shut down. He wants to keep golfing.

Don't even think about it!