Scalise, Cole introduce resolution to change rules on impeachment

[Bush92]

Personally, I think it's time for the Republicans to DEMAND an open hearing and impeachment vote...

Let's see what kind of losing hand the Democrats have...

And watch them lose their FOURTH impeachment vote when the Democrats from the districts that voted for Trump vote AGAINST the farce in order protect their jobs!!!

First the Democrats have to investigate to prepare the articles of impeachment. The rest of the House gets involved when they have actual articles of impeachment.

That's not the way it was done with Nixon and Clinton.

They had investigative special counsel teams that investigated in private, that passed evidence they gathered over to the House Judiciary committee.

There is no DOJ special or independent counsel investigators.... this is why the separate committees are doing the investigation part, before sending their info and evidence to the Judicial Committee...

Investigations are done in private and sometimes with grand juries too. In this situation, they are having to do their own, without the outside influence of the target, or the target's lawyers or political followers...

When and if the House Judiciary Committee votes to impeach, and it is a yea wins, then the target gets his due process, and all the evidence is presented.

And the Democrats get their FOURTH failed impeachment vote in 3 years, since some of the Democrat reps don't want to be unemployed, right???

one thing Pelosi is known for, is her accuracy in being able to count votes, before they vote...

she has the votes to impeach, and she personally did not cave in to an official impeachment inquiry without knowing she had the votes.

yes, I agree this could likely lead to losing some of those Democratic seats...

This coup attempt will blow-up in Democrats faces.

 

[Bush92]

...Of course we do with the letter transcript!...

The body of evidence presented to the House at-large will contain FAR more than that one transcript.

... And STILL NO VIABLE POLICIES GOOD FOR AMERICA....HIGHER TAXES, MORE ILLEGALS, LESS JOBS, MORE UNEMPLOYMENT...

Immaterial to whether or not Trump has conducted himself in such a way so as to warrant Impeachment. Absolutely immaterial.

...STOP lying!

There is nothing but truth and accuracy in what I have been posting in this thread. You are mistaken.

Why isnt this out in the open as it was with Clinton????.... why are you people HIDING EVERYTHING BEHIND CLOSED DOOTS AND ONLY LEAK WHAT THEY WANT OUT?

/----/ Because it's 100% made up bullshyt that can't stand the exposure to daylight. Adam Shytface can make any claim he wants with no accountability. So-called fair-minded liberals should be outraged - but they gleefully rub their hands and stomp their feet in approval.

The President has confessed to the abuse of power, and his Chief of Staff confirmed his confession. When you see the consequences for the Kurds of having an immoral, incompetent idiot in the White House.

It's over. Get used to saying President Pence. YOU should be outraged that the Republican Party allowed this conman to run for President in the first place.

That only happened in your tiny little brain that looks like Swiss cheese now from all of the damage done by TDS.

I think it’s more like STD’s.

 

[IM2]

First the Democrats have to investigate to prepare the articles of impeachment. The rest of the House gets involved when they have actual articles of impeachment.

IOW... They're holding impeachment hearing trying to find an impeachable offense.

That's how Fascist do it.

That's not what's going on.

Impeachment hearings on Trump are bullshit and only a goddamn idiot would think of it other than a coup attempt.

Only an idiot repeats Trumps claims about this being bullshit impeachment hearings and a coup. Yesh, that's exactly what democrats want, overthrow Trump and make Mike Pence the president.

 

[IM2]

First the Democrats have to investigate to prepare the articles of impeachment. The rest of the House gets involved when they have actual articles of impeachment.

That's not the way it was done with Nixon and Clinton.

They had investigative special counsel teams that investigated in private, that passed evidence they gathered over to the House Judiciary committee.

There is no DOJ special or independent counsel investigators.... this is why the separate committees are doing the investigation part, before sending their info and evidence to the Judicial Committee...

Investigations are done in private and sometimes with grand juries too. In this situation, they are having to do their own, without the outside influence of the target, or the target's lawyers or political followers...

When and if the House Judiciary Committee votes to impeach, and it is a yea wins, then the target gets his due process, and all the evidence is presented.

And the Democrats get their FOURTH failed impeachment vote in 3 years, since some of the Democrat reps don't want to be unemployed, right???

one thing Pelosi is known for, is her accuracy in being able to count votes, before they vote...

she has the votes to impeach, and she personally did not cave in to an official impeachment inquiry without knowing she had the votes.

yes, I agree this could likely lead to losing some of those Democratic seats...

This coup attempt will blow-up in Democrats faces.

Trump will be impeached. Pelosi is going for the jugular. She is trying to compile the inarguable case for Trumps removal.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Personally, I think it's time for the Republicans to DEMAND an open hearing and impeachment vote...

Let's see what kind of losing hand the Democrats have...

And watch them lose their FOURTH impeachment vote when the Democrats from the districts that voted for Trump vote AGAINST the farce in order protect their jobs!!!

First the Democrats have to investigate to prepare the articles of impeachment. The rest of the House gets involved when they have actual articles of impeachment.

Actually you have a vote by the full house to conduct an impeachment inquiry to see if impeachment is warranted.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

That's not the way it was done with Nixon and Clinton.

They had investigative special counsel teams that investigated in private, that passed evidence they gathered over to the House Judiciary committee.

There is no DOJ special or independent counsel investigators.... this is why the separate committees are doing the investigation part, before sending their info and evidence to the Judicial Committee...

Investigations are done in private and sometimes with grand juries too. In this situation, they are having to do their own, without the outside influence of the target, or the target's lawyers or political followers...

When and if the House Judiciary Committee votes to impeach, and it is a yea wins, then the target gets his due process, and all the evidence is presented.

And the Democrats get their FOURTH failed impeachment vote in 3 years, since some of the Democrat reps don't want to be unemployed, right???

one thing Pelosi is known for, is her accuracy in being able to count votes, before they vote...

she has the votes to impeach, and she personally did not cave in to an official impeachment inquiry without knowing she had the votes.

yes, I agree this could likely lead to losing some of those Democratic seats...

This coup attempt will blow-up in Democrats faces.

Trump will be impeached. Pelosi is going for the jugular. She is trying to compile the inarguable case for Trumps removal.

Trump will be impeached by the democrats not the house. Now how will that look for the democrats when America doesn't want an impeachment.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

First the Democrats have to investigate to prepare the articles of impeachment. The rest of the House gets involved when they have actual articles of impeachment.

IOW... They're holding impeachment hearing trying to find an impeachable offense.

That's how Fascist do it.

That's not what's going on.

Impeachment hearings on Trump are bullshit and only a goddamn idiot would think of it other than a coup attempt.

Only an idiot repeats Trumps claims about this being bullshit impeachment hearings and a coup. Yesh, that's exactly what democrats want, overthrow Trump and make Mike Pence the president.

only an idiot try to impeach when there is no crime to impeach.

 

[BULLDOG]

First the Democrats have to investigate to prepare the articles of impeachment. The rest of the House gets involved when they have actual articles of impeachment.

IOW... They're holding impeachment hearing trying to find an impeachable offense.

That's how Fascist do it.

That's not what's going on.

Impeachment hearings on Trump are bullshit and only a goddamn idiot would think of it other than a coup attempt.

You don't even know what that word means, dumb ass. It certainly doesn't mean what you think it does.

 

[IM2]

First the Democrats have to investigate to prepare the articles of impeachment. The rest of the House gets involved when they have actual articles of impeachment.

IOW... They're holding impeachment hearing trying to find an impeachable offense.

That's how Fascist do it.

That's not what's going on.

Impeachment hearings on Trump are bullshit and only a goddamn idiot would think of it other than a coup attempt.

Only an idiot repeats Trumps claims about this being bullshit impeachment hearings and a coup. Yesh, that's exactly what democrats want, overthrow Trump and make Mike Pence the president.

only an idiot try to impeach when there is no crime to impeach.

The problem with your comment lies in the fact that crimes have been committed.

 

[IM2]

They had investigative special counsel teams that investigated in private, that passed evidence they gathered over to the House Judiciary committee.

There is no DOJ special or independent counsel investigators.... this is why the separate committees are doing the investigation part, before sending their info and evidence to the Judicial Committee...

Investigations are done in private and sometimes with grand juries too. In this situation, they are having to do their own, without the outside influence of the target, or the target's lawyers or political followers...

When and if the House Judiciary Committee votes to impeach, and it is a yea wins, then the target gets his due process, and all the evidence is presented.

And the Democrats get their FOURTH failed impeachment vote in 3 years, since some of the Democrat reps don't want to be unemployed, right???

one thing Pelosi is known for, is her accuracy in being able to count votes, before they vote...

she has the votes to impeach, and she personally did not cave in to an official impeachment inquiry without knowing she had the votes.

yes, I agree this could likely lead to losing some of those Democratic seats...

This coup attempt will blow-up in Democrats faces.

Trump will be impeached. Pelosi is going for the jugular. She is trying to compile the inarguable case for Trumps removal.

Trump will be impeached by the democrats not the house. Now how will that look for the democrats when America doesn't want an impeachment.

Seems that 52 percent of Americans want an impeachment.

Did the house impeach Clinton?

 

[BULLDOG]

They had investigative special counsel teams that investigated in private, that passed evidence they gathered over to the House Judiciary committee.

There is no DOJ special or independent counsel investigators.... this is why the separate committees are doing the investigation part, before sending their info and evidence to the Judicial Committee...

Investigations are done in private and sometimes with grand juries too. In this situation, they are having to do their own, without the outside influence of the target, or the target's lawyers or political followers...

When and if the House Judiciary Committee votes to impeach, and it is a yea wins, then the target gets his due process, and all the evidence is presented.

And the Democrats get their FOURTH failed impeachment vote in 3 years, since some of the Democrat reps don't want to be unemployed, right???

one thing Pelosi is known for, is her accuracy in being able to count votes, before they vote...

she has the votes to impeach, and she personally did not cave in to an official impeachment inquiry without knowing she had the votes.

yes, I agree this could likely lead to losing some of those Democratic seats...

This coup attempt will blow-up in Democrats faces.

Trump will be impeached. Pelosi is going for the jugular. She is trying to compile the inarguable case for Trumps removal.

Trump will be impeached by the democrats not the house. Now how will that look for the democrats when America doesn't want an impeachment.

That's the stooopidest thing I've read in a long time. The House is the only place that can impeach a president. Dumb ass. 51% want that obese orange fool impeached and removed from office. That number won't go down when the evidence from the investigations is made known.

 

[IM2]

Personally, I think it's time for the Republicans to DEMAND an open hearing and impeachment vote...

Let's see what kind of losing hand the Democrats have...

And watch them lose their FOURTH impeachment vote when the Democrats from the districts that voted for Trump vote AGAINST the farce in order protect their jobs!!!

First the Democrats have to investigate to prepare the articles of impeachment. The rest of the House gets involved when they have actual articles of impeachment.

Actually you have a vote by the full house to conduct an impeachment inquiry to see if impeachment is warranted.

There is nothing in the Constitution that requires a full House vote to launch an impeachment inquiry," Berkeley Law School Dean Erwin Chemerinsky told Newsweek. "That has been done before, but it is not a constitutional requirement.

Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution states: "The House of Representatives shall [choose] their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment." The ambiguous language offers the chamber discretion as to how it conducts impeachment proceedings.

https://www.quora.com/Does-the-US-require-a-House-vote-to-begin-an-impeachment-inquiry

The Constitution doesn’t offer specific guidance on rules for impeachment inquiries and the House determines its own rules of parliamentary conduct. According to the CRS (Congressional Research Service), the House’s rules allow for an impeachment inquiry to go forward without an initial resolution but the matter would move on the Judiciary Committee at some point.

National Constitution Center: The House’s role in the impeachment inquiry process

and

Congressional Research Service: The Impeachment Process in the House of Representatives (referenced in the previous link)

As pointed out in a since-deleted answer, part of why, historically, the process of an authorizing resolution was followed, in part, was because that authorizing resolution would create the authorization for subpoena and other investigative powers. Those powers now exist with the House majority on a permanent basis. One of the main reasons why the precedent was to go via resolution no longer exists.

In addition, Pelosi doesn't need the House vote authorizing an inquiry because her caucus already has extra legal authority compared to past inquiries.

During the Clinton and Nixon impeachment inquiries, the House passed their inquiry resolutions so they could gain tools like more subpoena power and depositions, and included in those resolutions were nods to bipartisanship that gave the minority party subpoena power, too.

But the House rules have changed since the last impeachment of a president more than two decades ago. In this Congress, the House majority already has unilateral subpoena power, a rule change that was made when Republicans last controlled the House, so Democrats don't need to pass any resolution to grant those powers.

CNN: Why Democrats aren't planning to vote on an impeachment inquiry

What Powers Does a Formal Impeachment Inquiry Give the House?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Thank you so much for admitting that this is a Democrat plot (conducted behind closed doors), instead of a legitimate impeachment process conducted by the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES (AS DEMANDED BY THE U S CONSTITUTION)!!!

And guess what???

The American voters can see through your partisan bullshit...

Not a democratic plot. It's the procedure as laid out in the constitution dumb ass.

C'mon bulldog, you know this is a plot. Precedent has been set with clinton and Nixon, and now the dems say "well, it's too hard and takes too long to do a vote on impeachment inquiry".

I would think with something like this, you would want to take the time to do it fairly, wouldnt you?

Isnt it more likely, that the simple reason is, they want to keep the trump legal team in the dark as long as possible?

Imagine if this whole situation was reversed, and it was a dem in the White House, or, imagine if this tactic had been pulled on clinton. Can you honestly say that the left wouldnt be screaming about it? Honestly?

A bank robber doesn't get to ride along with the cops as they investigate. Trump will have plenty of time to answer any charges if/when articles of impeachment are filed. Until then,.the rules that Republicans put in place during all those Benghazi hearings still apply. That's how it works. I didn't hear you complaining when those rules were put into place.

This is not any hearing, it's an impeachment inquiry, and in the case of Nixon and Clinton, the judiciary committee were the ones to initiate the inquiry with a vote. That sets a precedent. It was also the judiciary that ran the inquiry.

The left knows if they vote now, the defense will be able to subpoena witnesses and to ask questions of their own. CNN even wrote an article stating as such, and they also said that the dems will never allow that.

My point was, I understand there is no rule that says they have to vote, I was only stating that there is a precedent in place. Why, now, does the left want to break from that precedent in this case, if not for the purpose of being secretive. They say to write the documents for an impeachment inquiry vote are so complex and time consuming, that's why they dont want to do it. It didnt seem to be so for the previous impeachment inquiries.

Again, please tell me, if this was happening to a dem president, would they not be trying to use the same arguments that you see a lot of repubs using? I believe they would.

If they vote now, they will be going into the impeachment trial with only the information in the public record. This gets all of the conspiracy and dirt out into the open.

I'm not sure I follow. If they vote now, the inquiry continues, nothing really changes, it just allows the defense more privileges concerning building the defense.

 

[Cellblock2429]

First the Democrats have to investigate to prepare the articles of impeachment. The rest of the House gets involved when they have actual articles of impeachment.

IOW... They're holding impeachment hearing trying to find an impeachable offense.

That's how Fascist do it.

That's not what's going on.

Impeachment hearings on Trump are bullshit and only a goddamn idiot would think of it other than a coup attempt.

Only an idiot repeats Trumps claims about this being bullshit impeachment hearings and a coup. Yesh, that's exactly what democrats want, overthrow Trump and make Mike Pence the president.

/——-/ They remove Trump then Pence and the Speaker Nancy Pants becomes president BTW democRATs can elect anyone speaker including Hildabeast. Then she is installed president overturning the 2016 election is their goal. MSNBC guest outlines plan to impeach Trump and make Nancy Pelosi president

 

[skews13]

Personally, I think it's time for the Republicans to DEMAND an open hearing and impeachment vote...

Let's see what kind of losing hand the Democrats have...

And watch them lose their FOURTH impeachment vote when the Democrats from the districts that voted for Trump vote AGAINST the farce in order protect their jobs!!!

First the Democrats have to investigate to prepare the articles of impeachment. The rest of the House gets involved when they have actual articles of impeachment.

That's not the way it was done with Nixon and Clinton.

They had investigative special counsel teams that investigated in private, that passed evidence they gathered over to the House Judiciary committee.

There is no DOJ special or independent counsel investigators.... this is why the separate committees are doing the investigation part, before sending their info and evidence to the Judicial Committee...

Investigations are done in private and sometimes with grand juries too. In this situation, they are having to do their own, without the outside influence of the target, or the target's lawyers or political followers...

When and if the House Judiciary Committee votes to impeach, and it is a yea wins, then the target gets his due process, and all the evidence is presented.

And the Democrats get their FOURTH failed impeachment vote in 3 years, since some of the Democrat reps don't want to be unemployed, right???

one thing Pelosi is known for, is her accuracy in being able to count votes, before they vote...

she has the votes to impeach, and she personally did not cave in to an official impeachment inquiry without knowing she had the votes.

yes, I agree this could likely lead to losing some of those Democratic seats...

What the magamites are upset about, is the Democrats arent showing their hand to give dotard the ability to get all of his ass kissers together, to get their story straight. And the beautiful thing about that is, none of the committees performing the investigation are under any obligation to show them what they've got, or who their witnesses are. As I stated earlier, impeachment is a political process, not a criminal one, and dotard has no due process rights as one would have in a criminal trial.

 

[Cellblock2429]

First the Democrats have to investigate to prepare the articles of impeachment. The rest of the House gets involved when they have actual articles of impeachment.

That's not the way it was done with Nixon and Clinton.

They had investigative special counsel teams that investigated in private, that passed evidence they gathered over to the House Judiciary committee.

There is no DOJ special or independent counsel investigators.... this is why the separate committees are doing the investigation part, before sending their info and evidence to the Judicial Committee...

Investigations are done in private and sometimes with grand juries too. In this situation, they are having to do their own, without the outside influence of the target, or the target's lawyers or political followers...

When and if the House Judiciary Committee votes to impeach, and it is a yea wins, then the target gets his due process, and all the evidence is presented.

And the Democrats get their FOURTH failed impeachment vote in 3 years, since some of the Democrat reps don't want to be unemployed, right???

one thing Pelosi is known for, is her accuracy in being able to count votes, before they vote...

she has the votes to impeach, and she personally did not cave in to an official impeachment inquiry without knowing she had the votes.

yes, I agree this could likely lead to losing some of those Democratic seats...

What the magamites are upset about, is the Democrats arent showing their hand to give dotard the ability to get all of his ass kissers together, to get their story straight. And the beautiful thing about that is, none of the committees performing the investigation are under any obligation to show them what they've got, or who their witnesses are. As I stated earlier, impeachment is a political process, not a criminal one, and dotard has no due process rights as one would have in a criminal trial.

/——-/ And just like the old USSR, the democRATs meet in private to hatch their schemes to destroy America.

 

[Cellblock2429]

And the Democrats get their FOURTH failed impeachment vote in 3 years, since some of the Democrat reps don't want to be unemployed, right???

one thing Pelosi is known for, is her accuracy in being able to count votes, before they vote...

she has the votes to impeach, and she personally did not cave in to an official impeachment inquiry without knowing she had the votes.

yes, I agree this could likely lead to losing some of those Democratic seats...

This coup attempt will blow-up in Democrats faces.

Trump will be impeached. Pelosi is going for the jugular. She is trying to compile the inarguable case for Trumps removal.

Trump will be impeached by the democrats not the house. Now how will that look for the democrats when America doesn't want an impeachment.

Seems that 52 percent of Americans want an impeachment.

Did the house impeach Clinton?

/——/ Seems like you believe in fake polls.

 

[IM2]

First the Democrats have to investigate to prepare the articles of impeachment. The rest of the House gets involved when they have actual articles of impeachment.

IOW... They're holding impeachment hearing trying to find an impeachable offense.

That's how Fascist do it.

That's not what's going on.

Impeachment hearings on Trump are bullshit and only a goddamn idiot would think of it other than a coup attempt.

Only an idiot repeats Trumps claims about this being bullshit impeachment hearings and a coup. Yesh, that's exactly what democrats want, overthrow Trump and make Mike Pence the president.

/——-/ They remove Trump then Pence and the Speaker Nancy Pants becomes president BTW democRATs can elect anyone speaker including Hildabeast. Then she is installed president overturning the 2016 election is their goal. MSNBC guest outlines plan to impeach Trump and make Nancy Pelosi president

Yeah right. That's why Pelosi was opposed to impeachment for 2 years.

 

[Cellblock2429]

IOW... They're holding impeachment hearing trying to find an impeachable offense.

That's how Fascist do it.

That's not what's going on.

Impeachment hearings on Trump are bullshit and only a goddamn idiot would think of it other than a coup attempt.

Only an idiot repeats Trumps claims about this being bullshit impeachment hearings and a coup. Yesh, that's exactly what democrats want, overthrow Trump and make Mike Pence the president.

/——-/ They remove Trump then Pence and the Speaker Nancy Pants becomes president BTW democRATs can elect anyone speaker including Hildabeast. Then she is installed president overturning the 2016 election is their goal. MSNBC guest outlines plan to impeach Trump and make Nancy Pelosi president

Yeah right. That's why Pelosi was opposed to impeachment for 2 years.

/——/ What Piglosi says in public and what she plots behind closed doors aren’t the same. Dems need to stretch out the inquisition until the 2020 election. Don’t be so naive.

 

[OldLady]

First the Democrats have to investigate to prepare the articles of impeachment. The rest of the House gets involved when they have actual articles of impeachment.

That's not the way it was done with Nixon and Clinton.

They had investigative special counsel teams that investigated in private, that passed evidence they gathered over to the House Judiciary committee.

There is no DOJ special or independent counsel investigators.... this is why the separate committees are doing the investigation part, before sending their info and evidence to the Judicial Committee...

Investigations are done in private and sometimes with grand juries too. In this situation, they are having to do their own, without the outside influence of the target, or the target's lawyers or political followers...

When and if the House Judiciary Committee votes to impeach, and it is a yea wins, then the target gets his due process, and all the evidence is presented.

And the Democrats get their FOURTH failed impeachment vote in 3 years, since some of the Democrat reps don't want to be unemployed, right???

one thing Pelosi is known for, is her accuracy in being able to count votes, before they vote...

she has the votes to impeach, and she personally did not cave in to an official impeachment inquiry without knowing she had the votes.

yes, I agree this could likely lead to losing some of those Democratic seats...

What the magamites are upset about, is the Democrats arent showing their hand to give dotard the ability to get all of his ass kissers together, to get their story straight. And the beautiful thing about that is, none of the committees performing the investigation are under any obligation to show them what they've got, or who their witnesses are. As I stated earlier, impeachment is a political process, not a criminal one, and dotard has no due process rights as one would have in a criminal trial.

"magamites" lol good one