'S.C. Republican: Aid like feeding strays'

[Modbert]

That's the stupidest thing you've posted. And I must say it would take something to reach that point.
Many programs already require being drug free or other conditions. They seem to work just fine. I haven't seen any children starving in the street. The opposite: I see rampant obesity.

So just because you don't see it means it doesn't exist? Now THAT is fucking stupid.

And many programs do require you to be drug free, some others don't however. There are many types of government aid.

 

[The Rabbi]

That's the stupidest thing you've posted. And I must say it would take something to reach that point.
Many programs already require being drug free or other conditions. They seem to work just fine. I haven't seen any children starving in the street. The opposite: I see rampant obesity.

So just because you don't see it means it doesn't exist? Now THAT is fucking stupid.

And many programs do require you to be drug free, some others don't however. There are many types of government aid.

OK, so you agree with me.
Have you seen children starving on the street because they were denied some gov't program or other? Have you read news accounts of it? Have the voices in your head told you about them?

 

[Intense]

What conclusion can one come to after reading this?

"Bauer, who's running for the Republican nomination for governor, made his remarks during a town hall meeting in Fountain Inn that included state lawmakers and about 115 residents, according to a Greenville News account written by Nathaniel Cary.

“My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed. You're facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply."

S.C. Republican: Aid like feeding strays - CharlotteObserver.com

Joe Bageant: One party has no heart, the other no spine

Your First Link is at least credible. He is part reasonable and part misguided. For Each the decision to give is Individual and through Conscience. He's missing that. Probably did not pay much attention in Church, growing up. I bet He slept through The New Testament.
He probably has not survived any major Life changing event yet either, You know, the type where You must depend on Others.

The Second Link is Kool-Aid drinking, biased, Revisionist Trash, not worth further comment.

 

[Douger]

Next thing he will advocate is sterilizing them to cut down on breeding

If they spent as much time cultivating a garden as they do fucking.................just sayin.

 

[Ravi]

Have you seen children starving on the street because they were denied some gov't program or other? Have you read news accounts of it?

No, but apparently that is what this asshole wants to see.

 

[The Rabbi]

Have you seen children starving on the street because they were denied some gov't program or other? Have you read news accounts of it?

No, but apparently that is what this asshole wants to see.

Really? Where do you get that? Other than from your own asshole.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Next thing he will advocate is sterilizing them to cut down on breeding

No, that's for the eugenicists, who are all (and I don't toss my universal qualifiers around lightly) leftist authoritarian types.

WASPS are leftists?

 

[NYcarbineer]

If this guy believes feeding the 'strays' is wrong, why does he belong to this church?

Ministries

I wonder in the bible where Jesus says

"Fuck off beggars, you're a bunch of stray animals."

Can anyone point me to that verse?

This gets underneath the lie in the conservative claim that they don't oppose charity, they just oppose government funded charity.

Well, if you agree with this guy, it's the charity itself that is wrong, not where it comes from.

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Hitler was a socialist, too....He even professed his admiration for Marx in "Mein Kaumpf".

Historical revisionist myth: Busted.

...The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the mass of numbers and their dead weight. Thus it denies the value of personality in man, contests the significance of nationality and race, and thereby withdraws from humanity the premise of its existence and its culture. As a foundation of the universe, this doctrine would bring about the end of any order intellectually conceivable to man. And as, in this greatest of all recognizable organisms, the result of an application of such a law could only be chaos, on earth it could only be destruction for the inhabitants of this planet.
If, with the help of his Marxist creed, the Jew is victorious over the other peoples of the world, his crown will be the funeral wreath of humanity and this planet will, as it did thousands of years ago, move through the ether devoid of men.

That was from Hitler's book.

It sounds to me that you have more in common with Hitler than anyone here.

I quoted Goebbels yesterday, where he said that National Socialism opposes Liberalism both in theory and practice, and the wingnut response I got?

...that Goebbels just made that up to fool people.

I swear.

where was this?

 

[☭proletarian☭]

Next thing he will advocate is sterilizing them to cut down on breeding

If they spent as much time cultivating a garden as they do fucking.................just sayin.

Will you be giving the the land for that garden? Also the tools, training fertilizer, firepots if they live somewhere cold...?

 

[Political Junky]

What conclusion can one come to after reading this?

"Bauer, who's running for the Republican nomination for governor, made his remarks during a town hall meeting in Fountain Inn that included state lawmakers and about 115 residents, according to a Greenville News account written by Nathaniel Cary.

“My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed. You're facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply."

S.C. Republican: Aid like feeding strays - CharlotteObserver.com

Joe Bageant: One party has no heart, the other no spine

There you have the republican philosophy. I've got mine ... tough for you.

 

[The Rabbi]

What conclusion can one come to after reading this?

"Bauer, who's running for the Republican nomination for governor, made his remarks during a town hall meeting in Fountain Inn that included state lawmakers and about 115 residents, according to a Greenville News account written by Nathaniel Cary.

“My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed. You're facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply."

S.C. Republican: Aid like feeding strays - CharlotteObserver.com

Joe Bageant: One party has no heart, the other no spine

There you have the republican philosophy. I've got mine ... tough for you.

Which is why Conservatives routinely outrank Liberals in private charity.
The Democratic Party's philsophy is: I've got mine, you can have someone else's. So we are treated to the spector of multi millionaires like Kennedy voting to raise taxes on hard working Americans to redistribute to lazy Americans in return for their vote.

 

[NYcarbineer]

That was from Hitler's book.

It sounds to me that you have more in common with Hitler than anyone here.

I quoted Goebbels yesterday, where he said that National Socialism opposes Liberalism both in theory and practice, and the wingnut response I got?

...that Goebbels just made that up to fool people.

I swear.

where was this?

I don't cite other forums on forums, that is rude. But that aside, the 'Nazis were liberals' line from the right has been around forever.

 

[NYcarbineer]

[Which is why Conservatives routinely outrank Liberals in private charity.
.

And according to this guy, that makes them part of the problem.

That's a bogus claim btw.

 

[Mr Natural]

What's wrong with feeding strays?

 

[California Girl]

When was the last...no, the FIRST time a church sacked its neighborhood to help the poor?

I doubt that the drooling libs will grasp the point of your post but I agree with you.

 

[slackjawed]

He also said this, also from the article the op posted a link to.

"You see, for the first time in the history of this country, we've got more people voting for a living than we do working for a living,”

 

[Darkwind]

[What conclusion? That Bauer has a tin ear for politics but a good mindset for governing. He is right: when you reward certain kinds of behavior you get more of them. When you punish some kinds of behavior, you get less of them.

Then it's wrong for churches to help the needy? Then Christian charity causes more harm than good?

It is never wrong for churches to help the needy. It is wrong for the Federal Government to help the needy.

I'll bet you don't know why.

 

[Contessa_Sharra]

Next thing he will advocate is sterilizing them to cut down on breeding

They been there and done that:

http://www.h-net.org/~women/bibs/bibl-forcedster.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization

http://civilliberty.about.com/od/gendersexuality/tp/Forced-Sterilization-History.htm
1897

Michigan's state legislature becomes the first in the country to pass a forced sterilization law, but it is vetoed by the governor.
1901

Legislators in Pennsylvania attempt to pass a eugenic forced sterilization law, but it stalls.
1907

Indiana becomes the first state in the country to successfully pass a mandatory forced sterilization law, in this case impacting the "feebleminded" (mentally handicapped).
1909

California and Washington pass mandatory sterilization laws.
1922

Harry Hamilton Laughlin, director of the Eugenics Research Office, proposes a federal mandatory sterilization law. Like Lincecum's proposal, it never really goes anywhere.
1927

In Buck v. Bell, the U.S. Supreme Court rules (8-1) that laws mandating the sterilization of the mentally handicapped do not violate the Constitution. Writing for the majority, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes makes an explicitly eugenic argument:

It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind.
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1936

Public domain. Image courtesy Wikipedia.
Nazi propaganda defends Germany's forced sterilization program by citing the United States as an ally in the eugenic movement, and its laws as proof of its status as same. World War II, and the atrocities committed by the Nazi government, would rapidly change U.S. attitudes towards eugenics.

1942

In Skinner v. Oklahoma, the U.S. Supreme Court rules unanimously against an Oklahoma law targeting some felons for sterilization (the plaintiff, Jack Skinner, was a chicken thief) while excluding white-collar criminals. The majority opinion, written by Justice William O. Douglas, rejects the broad eugenic mandate previously outlined in Buck v. Bell (1927):

trict scrutiny of the classification which a State makes in a sterilization law is essential, lest unwittingly, or otherwise, invidious discriminations are made against groups or types of individuals in violation of the constitutional guaranty of just and equal laws.
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1970

The Nixon administration dramatically increases Medicaid-funded sterilization of low-income Americans, primarily Americans of color. While these sterilizations are voluntary as a matter of policy, anecdotal evidence later suggests that they are often involuntary as a matter of practice as patients are often misinformed, or left uninformed, regarding the nature of the procedures that they have agreed to undergo.
1979

A survey conducted by Family Planning Perspectives finds that approximately 70% of American hospitals fail to adequately follow U.S. Department of Health and Human Services guidelines regarding informed consent in cases of sterilization.
1981

Oregon performs the last legal forced sterilization in U.S. history.

 

[NYcarbineer]

When was the last...no, the FIRST time a church sacked its neighborhood to help the poor?

I doubt that the drooling libs will grasp the point of your post but I agree with you.

The idiot from SC didn't make the distinction. If you could read you would see that his example about his grandmother was that he was told not to make a VOLUNTARY act of charity.

You people are profoundly clueless. It amazes me that you even try.