Rule of Law, or Rule of Man?

[Truthmatters]

"The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations."--Thomas Jefferson


"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."--- Thomas Jefferson


“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”Thomas Jefferson

A government afraid of its citizens is a Democracy. Citizens afraid of government is tyranny!" --Thomas Jefferson

Jefferson LOVED democracy and he would HATE your lies about it.

 

[PredFan]

The founder so loved democracy?

That must be why they lovingly gave slave states democratic power based on the 3/5 principle. right?

Because then PROPERTY gave some STATES much more democratic power than other states without slaves.

Truly you people who think the Floundering Fathers were saints are kool-ade drinking idiots.

If I read your post right, you are saying that we were not intended to be a Democracy?

The founders, who of course weren't saints, recognised the danger of allowing a majority of voters to vote away the rights of a minority. I'm not sure your example proves the point you are making, but it is along those lines.

 

[Truthmatters]

That is direct democracy NOT democracy

 

[Truthmatters]

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7270. REPRESENTATION, Democratic. --


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7270. REPRESENTATION, Democratic. --
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The full experiment of a government democratical, but representative, was and is still reserved for us. The idea (taken, indeed, from the little specimen formerly existing in the English constitution, but now lost) has been carried by us, more or less, into all our legislative and executive departments; but it has not yet, by any of us, been pushed into all the ramifications of the system, so far as to leave no authority existing not responsible to the people; whose rights, however, to the exercise and fruits of their own industry, can never be protected against the selfishness of rulers not subject to their control at short periods. The introduction of this new principle of representative democracy has rendered useless almost everything written before on the structure of government; and, in a great measure, relieves our regret, if the political writings of Aristotle, or of any other ancient, have been lost, or are unfaithfully rendered or explained to us. --

TITLE: To Isaac H. Tiffany.
EDITION: Washington ed. vii, 32.
PLACE: Monticello
DATE: 1816

The founders know what they designed

 

[PredFan]

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7270. REPRESENTATION, Democratic. --


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7270. REPRESENTATION, Democratic. --
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The full experiment of a government democratical, but representative, was and is still reserved for us. The idea (taken, indeed, from the little specimen formerly existing in the English constitution, but now lost) has been carried by us, more or less, into all our legislative and executive departments; but it has not yet, by any of us, been pushed into all the ramifications of the system, so far as to leave no authority existing not responsible to the people; whose rights, however, to the exercise and fruits of their own industry, can never be protected against the selfishness of rulers not subject to their control at short periods. The introduction of this new principle of representative democracy has rendered useless almost everything written before on the structure of government; and, in a great measure, relieves our regret, if the political writings of Aristotle, or of any other ancient, have been lost, or are unfaithfully rendered or explained to us. --

TITLE: To Isaac H. Tiffany.
EDITION: Washington ed. vii, 32.
PLACE: Monticello
DATE: 1816

The founders know what they designed

Yeah, you've had your ass handed to you in two threads now.

 

[lawfulrevolt]

The founder so loved democracy?

That must be why they lovingly gave slave states democratic power based on the 3/5 principle. right?

Because then PROPERTY gave some STATES much more democratic power than other states without slaves.

Truly you people who think the Floundering Fathers were saints are kool-ade drinking idiots.

I have to agree, and underline that the infiltration of the government depends on democracy. Worse than idiots, because the nation is a democratically directed representative republic, and the lool-aide drinkers are working for the infiltration if they cannot see that the republic MUST be upheld, then democratically directed, BUT only after the misinformation the infiltration of the government has caused is eliminated.

Therein is the reason for preparatory amendment for an Article V convention. Delegates must agree before the onset of the convention to;

1) End the abridging of free speech.
2) End corporate campaign finance
3) Reform election and voting systems

After those are corrected by amendment, THEN begin a convention to propose amendments generally. There is no way amendments are going to have the intent of the constitution IF these things are not done before a convention.