Rubio vs Obama and natural born citizenship?

Multiple citizenship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Citizenship of multiple countries

Individual countries follow their own rationales in establishing their criteria for citizenship. Each country has different requirements for citizenship, as well as different policies regarding dual citizenship. These laws sometimes leave gaps where the acquisition of other citizenships does not render the original citizenship invalid, creating a possible situation for an individual to hold two or more nationalities. Here are common reasons to bestow citizenship:
At least one parent is a citizen (jus sanguinis).
The person was born on the country's territory (jus soli)
The person marries a person holding the citizenship (jure matrimonii).[1]
The person becomes naturalized.
The person was adopted from another country as a minor and at least one adoptive parent is a citizen.[2]
The person makes a substantial monetary investment: Austria,[3] Cyprus, Dominica and St. Kitts & Nevis

What the Dept. of State says about it is more pertinent.

And Dept. of State does not alter U.S. law.

A child born in Italy to One American and one Italian parent may be a natural born ITALIAN citizen but the kid is NOT an American citizen -- and it gets no dual citizenship.

It may, however, later be naturalized.


US State Department Services Dual Nationality
 
Multiple citizenship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Citizenship of multiple countries

Individual countries follow their own rationales in establishing their criteria for citizenship. Each country has different requirements for citizenship, as well as different policies regarding dual citizenship. These laws sometimes leave gaps where the acquisition of other citizenships does not render the original citizenship invalid, creating a possible situation for an individual to hold two or more nationalities. Here are common reasons to bestow citizenship:
At least one parent is a citizen (jus sanguinis).
The person was born on the country's territory (jus soli)
The person marries a person holding the citizenship (jure matrimonii).[1]
The person becomes naturalized.
The person was adopted from another country as a minor and at least one adoptive parent is a citizen.[2]
The person makes a substantial monetary investment: Austria,[3] Cyprus, Dominica and St. Kitts & Nevis

What the Dept. of State says about it is more pertinent.

And Dept. of State does not alter U.S. law.

A child born in Italy to One American and one Italian parent may be a natural born ITALIAN citizen but the kid is NOT an American citizen -- and it gets no dual citizenship.

It may, however, later be naturalized.


US State Department Services Dual Nationality

Does it matter if the couple is married?
 
Title 8 Sec 1401 specifically defines only a Citizen, not a natual born Citizen. Article 2 Section 1 for the presidency specifically calls for the term 'Natural Born Citizen' to be eligible.:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The only time a Citizen could be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution until time for Constitutional Article 2 natural born Citizen could be born several presidents later. Those first few Citizen presidents were grandfathered in, hence the Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 grandfather clause.


So basically only a person born in the US can run for President? what about John McCain? he was born in Panama.
No. McCain could run because he was born in Panama which was US territory at that time and the fact that he was born to TWO U.S. Citizen parents. A senate meeting had to be held to confirm that he was a natural born Citizen. It was called Senate Resolution 511 stating he was born to citizen parents (plural).


Hmm interesting, didn't know that.
 
Marco Rubio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Marco Antonio Rubio (born May 28, 1971) is the junior United States Senator from Florida, serving since January 2011. A member of the Republican Party, he previously served as Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives (2007–2009).

Born to Cuban immigrants, Rubio was raised in Miami, Florida, and Las Vegas, Nevada

Cuban immigrants who immigrated here legally making them american citizens ;)
 
Marco Antonio Rubio (born May 28, 1971) is the junior United States Senator from Florida, serving since January 2011. A member of the Republican Party, he previously served as Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives (2007–2009).

Born to Cuban immigrants, Rubio was raised in Miami, Florida, and Las Vegas, Nevada

Were Marco's parents naturalized as U.S. citizens before he was born?
 
Marco Antonio Rubio (born May 28, 1971) is the junior United States Senator from Florida, serving since January 2011. A member of the Republican Party, he previously served as Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives (2007–2009).

Born to Cuban immigrants, Rubio was raised in Miami, Florida, and Las Vegas, Nevada

Cuban immigrants who immigrated here legally making them american citizens

Were Marco's parents naturalized as U.S. citizens before he was born?

Coming here legally does not make you an American citizen. Applying for citizenship, meeting the requirements, passing the test and taking the oath does.

But even if his parents were not yet American citizens, if Sen. Rubio was BORN here, he IS an American citizen.
 
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Marco Antonio Rubio (born May 28, 1971) is the junior United States Senator from Florida, serving since January 2011. A member of the Republican Party, he previously served as Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives (2007–2009).

Born to Cuban immigrants, Rubio was raised in Miami, Florida, and Las Vegas, Nevada

Were Marco's parents naturalized as U.S. citizens before he was born?

Ah that is a good question....I THINK they were but am not certain as I think that from hearing someone else say it in the media (and we all know how trustworthy the media has been)
 
Marco Antonio Rubio (born May 28, 1971) is the junior United States Senator from Florida, serving since January 2011. A member of the Republican Party, he previously served as Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives (2007–2009).

Born to Cuban immigrants, Rubio was raised in Miami, Florida, and Las Vegas, Nevada

Cuban immigrants who immigrated here legally making them american citizens ;)
Were Marco's parents naturalized as U.S. citizens before he was born?

Coming here legally does not make you an American citizen. Applying for citizenship, meeting the requirements, passing the test and taking the oath does.

But even if his parents were not yet American citizens, if Sen. Rubio was BORN here, he IS an American citizen.[/QUOTE]Yes a citizen, but not a Constitutional Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen. He is basically a anchor baby if both parents weren't naturalized before he was born.
 
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The issue of course remains the perversion of birferism, not Obama. It's settled. He is a citizen. What is not settled is what is going to happen to birfers who are subject to tort claims and criminal charges for their continued willful obstructionism.
 
The issue of course remains the perversion of birferism, not Obama. It's settled. He is a citizen. What is not settled is what is going to happen to birfers who are subject to tort claims and criminal charges for their continued willful obstructionism.

Yes he is a statutory citizen but you fail to remember that Article 2 Section 1 for the presidency specifically calls for the term 'natural born Citizen', not 'Citizen'.
 
The issues remain settled: Obama is eligible and not questioned at all as to eligibility.

What is not settled is what is going to happen to the birfers.
 
Yes a citizen, but not a Constitutional Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen. He is basically a anchor baby if both parents weren't naturalized before he was born.


There is no legal designation 'Anchor Baby.' :rolleyes: He is a natural born US citizen.
 
I read that Rubio was born in Miami to parents who were both Cuban citizens at the time of his birth. I have also read that it doesn't matter if Obama was born in Hawaii or not because according to the Constitution's definition, his father wasn't a citizen of the USA so Obama can't be a natural born citizen. The other arguments I have read, have people saying that because Obama's mother was a citizen and he was born here, he is a natural born citizen. So if either argument rings true. There is no possible way Rubio can be a natural born citizen if one of your parents has to be a citizen. Right?

What y'all read in UK rags ain't necessarily the truth. The greatest document ever created that separated Americans from the European rabble including the quasi-monarchy formerly known as England says simply that a US president must be born in the USA. Rubio has shown that he qualifies. Barry Hussein has his birth certificate locked away in a vault. Here in the Colonies we are aware that Hawaii is part of the USA. The problem for Obama is that there is no record of his hippie mother being in a Hawaii hospital at the time of Hussein's birth. Barry's alcoholic degenerate father is something close to today's Brit royalty but he is out of the picture.
 

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