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No one is claiming hes not American.
we are not as evil as you fucks
we are not as evil as you fucks
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Title 8 Sec 1401 specifically defines only a Citizen, not a natual born Citizen. Article 2 Section 1 for the presidency specifically calls for the term 'Natural Born Citizen' to be eligible.:I saw that.
Title 8 of the U.S. Code Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
Anyone born inside the United States *
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one yearAny one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
sorry i wasn't more specific, and sorry but Obama is a citizen no matter how much I dislike him as a president.
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
The only time a Citizen could be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution until time for Constitutional Article 2 natural born Citizen could be born several presidents later. Those first few Citizen presidents were grandfathered in, hence the Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 grandfather clause.
So basically only a person born in the US can run for President? what about John McCain? he was born in Panama.
Title 8 Sec 1401 specifically defines only a Citizen, not a natual born Citizen. Article 2 Section 1 for the presidency specifically calls for the term 'Natural Born Citizen' to be eligible.:I saw that.
Title 8 of the U.S. Code Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
Anyone born inside the United States *
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one yearAny one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
sorry i wasn't more specific, and sorry but Obama is a citizen no matter how much I dislike him as a president.
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
The only time a Citizen could be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution until time for Constitutional Article 2 natural born Citizen could be born several presidents later. Those first few Citizen presidents were grandfathered in, hence the Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 grandfather clause.
So basically only a person born in the US can run for President? what about John McCain? he was born in Panama.
Hmm I thought his mother being American was enough to seal the deal?
Not according to the very law cited by PLYMCO_PILGRIM.
Compare:
with:
if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Whats the difference between a US Citizen and a US National? this is confusing, Military families have kids born overseas all the time with a parent of a different country like Korea or Germany and those kids are Americans.
Not according to the very law cited by PLYMCO_PILGRIM.
Compare:
with:
Whats the difference between a US Citizen and a US National? this is confusing, Military families have kids born overseas all the time with a parent of a different country like Korea or Germany and those kids are Americans.
It is kind of archaic, but a national was person born on the land of some U.S. territory or outlying possession which was not technically the same thing as a State or U.S. soil.
Whats the difference between a US Citizen and a US National? this is confusing, Military families have kids born overseas all the time with a parent of a different country like Korea or Germany and those kids are Americans.
It is kind of archaic, but a national was person born on the land of some U.S. territory or outlying possession which was not technically the same thing as a State or U.S. soil.
So if I go to Italy and get a woman pregnant and she has the baby in Naples, is my child American?
They can get dual citizenship as a matter of fact
Not according to the citizenship law in 1961. The law says:I saw that.
Title 8 of the U.S. Code Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
Anyone born inside the United States *
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one yearAny one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
sorry i wasn't more specific, and sorry but Obama is a citizen no matter how much I dislike him as a president.
The highlighted wouldn't help Pres. Obama IF he had been born in Kenya since his father was not a U.S. national. He was not born in a territory or outlying possession of the USA.
He was a Kenyan.
Hmm I thought his mother being American was enough to seal the deal?
It is kind of archaic, but a national was person born on the land of some U.S. territory or outlying possession which was not technically the same thing as a State or U.S. soil.
So if I go to Italy and get a woman pregnant and she has the baby in Naples, is my child American?
Is the woman you have knocked up a U.S. citizen?
So if I go to Italy and get a woman pregnant and she has the baby in Naples, is my child American?
Is the woman you have knocked up a U.S. citizen?
No, Italian.
No, Ricky Rubio was born in Spain. He has never claimed to be American. But can that boy ball!
man you are stupid. You are thinking of the a soccer player for Rubio
Not according to the citizenship law in 1961. The law says:The highlighted wouldn't help Pres. Obama IF he had been born in Kenya since his father was not a U.S. national. He was not born in a territory or outlying possession of the USA.
He was a Kenyan.
Hmm I thought his mother being American was enough to seal the deal?
When one parent was a U.S. citizen and the other a foreign national, the U.S. citizen parent must have resided in the U.S. for a total of 10 years prior to birth of the child with FIVE of the years after the age of 14.
Stanley Ann Dunham did not meet requisite status. The law effected people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986
Is the woman you have knocked up a U.S. citizen?
No, Italian.
Then how could the kid be a natural born U.S. citizen?
I read that Rubio was born in Miami to parents who were both Cuban citizens at the time of his birth. I have also read that it doesn't matter if Obama was born in Hawaii or not because according to the Constitution's definition, his father wasn't a citizen of the USA so Obama can't be a natural born citizen. The other arguments I have read, have people saying that because Obama's mother was a citizen and he was born here, he is a natural born citizen. So if either argument rings true. There is no possible way Rubio can be a natural born citizen if one of your parents has to be a citizen. Right?
So if your father is not American you aren't either?
I read that Rubio was born in Miami to parents who were both Cuban citizens at the time of his birth. I have also read that it doesn't matter if Obama was born in Hawaii or not because according to the Constitution's definition, his father wasn't a citizen of the USA so Obama can't be a natural born citizen. The other arguments I have read, have people saying that because Obama's mother was a citizen and he was born here, he is a natural born citizen. So if either argument rings true. There is no possible way Rubio can be a natural born citizen if one of your parents has to be a citizen. Right?
So if your father is not American you aren't either?
You are a native born citizen, not a natural born citizen. A native citizen is born here of parents who were both citizens. A natural born citizen does not need any legal action (such as naturalization of a parent) to be a natural born citizen.
Look at it this way to make sense. A child of one American citizen and one British citizen is born in England. Is the child American or British? The child is British, born of a British citizen on British soil. There is a unique procedure to expedite the process of such children to become American citizens, but they are not at birth.
No. McCain could run because he was born in Panama which was US territory at that time and the fact that he was born to TWO U.S. Citizen parents. A senate meeting had to be held to confirm that he was a natural born Citizen. It was called Senate Resolution 511 stating he was born to citizen parents (plural).Title 8 Sec 1401 specifically defines only a Citizen, not a natual born Citizen. Article 2 Section 1 for the presidency specifically calls for the term 'Natural Born Citizen' to be eligible.:I saw that.
Title 8 of the U.S. Code Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"
•Anyone born inside the United States *
•Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
•Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
•Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
•Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year•Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
•Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
•A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
sorry i wasn't more specific, and sorry but Obama is a citizen no matter how much I dislike him as a president.
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
The only time a Citizen could be president was at the time of the adoption of the Constitution until time for Constitutional Article 2 natural born Citizen could be born several presidents later. Those first few Citizen presidents were grandfathered in, hence the Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5 grandfather clause.
So basically only a person born in the US can run for President? what about John McCain? he was born in Panama.