Romney pledges to veto federal DREAM Act for immigrants

[Unkotare]

E-Verify is fine for companies like the one I work for .

Oh, the DNC uses E-Verify?

 

[Unkotare]

I lived in a town that had a prositution problem in the 1980's. .

Is that why you're such a fucking whore for the DNC?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

You are making the mistake of thinking your own ignorance is universal.

The only ignorant person here appears to be you. People defending this program have presented logical arguments in favor for it. All you can do is call people names like a little ten year old child. How about you go back to your playpen and let the adults have a conversation.

 

[kyzr]

I support Romney's pledge to veto the Dream Act. Its a moronic law that is anti-American. Any state, such as CA that wastes taxpayer dollars on foreign students, and goes bankrupt cannot expect a federal bailout. CA needs to understand what bankruptcy means, no borrowing, and drastic cuts in services.

The dumb fucks worry about the dream act instead of balancing their state budget.

 

[Unkotare]

You are making the mistake of thinking your own ignorance is universal.

The only ignorant person here appears to be you. People defending this program have presented logical arguments in favor for it. All you can do is call people names like a little ten year old child. How about you go back to your playpen and let the adults have a conversation.

Oh, an adult conversation, eh? Pretending that granting amnesty won't encourage more illegal immigration is "adult"? Repeating the oft-debunked liberal whine, "you can't make them all leave!" is "adult"? Fuck off, kid.

 

[JoeB131]

The Dream Act is unfair and would encourage even more illegal immigration.

Romney pledges to veto federal DREAM Act for immigrants - Election 2012 - The Washington Post

And this, Children, is why Romney is such an awful candidate.

Simple demographics, people. Hispanics are the fastest growing segment of our population; it is estimated that by 2020, Hispanic growth of LEGAL immigrants and their descendents will make Texas a blue state and effectively end any real chance the GOP has of winning the presidency. (Unless we do the breathtakingly rational thing and get rid of the electoral college.)

Now G. W. Bush understood this, and did a lot of outreach. He even got 45% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. A pretty good number. But then the Crazy Minutemen and Nativists got involved. And even though he had a good rep with Hispanics previously, embracing them knocked McCain down to 31% of their support. Knocked Florida, NM, Nevada and Colorado into the Dem column.

Now we have Mittens Romney, a guy who belongs to a religion that thinks brown skin is a curse from God, that has flip-flopped on this issue, who hired illegal aliens to do his lawn -until he decided he was running for office, for Pete's Sake..

Yeah, this is the guy we want to win these folks over.

The thing is, Hispanics would be a solid addition to the GOP Coalition. They are culturally conservative, have traditional values, believe in hard work and family.

But the GOP seems intent on alienating them.

Wow, advice from a hateful fucking bigot and an OBVIOUS liberal democrat. Just what we need...

Big words confusing you again.

Please refute anything I said on substance... we're waiting.

Oh, wait, you don't do that. You swear at people.

Tourette's Syndrome is not an argument....

 

[Unkotare]

Trying to duck the fact that your incredibly thin cover has been blown AGAIN? Why don't you stop the bullshit and just be honest for once?

 

[JoeB131]

Trying to duck the fact that your incredibly thin cover has been blown AGAIN? Why don't you stop the bullshit and just be honest for once?

I'm perfectly honest.

I've said all along the two biggest groups the GOP has to get it right with are working folks and Hispanics. Pretty much said that from day one here.

But you guys think that you can win with just angry white males...

Maybe that flies in a midterm, but the GOP has to win with a larger coalition.

Religious crazy only takes you so far.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

You are making the mistake of thinking your own ignorance is universal.

The only ignorant person here appears to be you. People defending this program have presented logical arguments in favor for it. All you can do is call people names like a little ten year old child. How about you go back to your playpen and let the adults have a conversation.

Oh, an adult conversation, eh? Pretending that granting amnesty won't encourage more illegal immigration is "adult"?

What amnesty?

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Dream Act is unfair and would encourage even more illegal immigration.

Romney pledges to veto federal DREAM Act for immigrants - Election 2012 - The Washington Post

The Dream Act is absolutely fair, and most of America will support it. If Republicans oppose it, the party loses both the Latino vote and the national election.

 

[Flopper]

The Dream Act is unfair and would encourage even more illegal immigration.

Romney pledges to veto federal DREAM Act for immigrants - Election 2012 - The Washington Post

Romney will say whatever is necessary to secure the nomination. When he has to win the the votes of independents and Democrats, who are in favor of the Dream Act then you will hear a different story.

 

[J.E.D]

The Dream Act is unfair and would encourage even more illegal immigration.

Romney pledges to veto federal DREAM Act for immigrants - Election 2012 - The Washington Post

And this, Children, is why Romney is such an awful candidate.

Simple demographics, people. Hispanics are the fastest growing segment of our population; it is estimated that by 2020, Hispanic growth of LEGAL immigrants and their descendents will make Texas a blue state and effectively end any real chance the GOP has of winning the presidency. (Unless we do the breathtakingly rational thing and get rid of the electoral college.)

Now G. W. Bush understood this, and did a lot of outreach. He even got 45% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. A pretty good number. But then the Crazy Minutemen and Nativists got involved. And even though he had a good rep with Hispanics previously, embracing them knocked McCain down to 31% of their support. Knocked Florida, NM, Nevada and Colorado into the Dem column.

Now we have Mittens Romney, a guy who belongs to a religion that thinks brown skin is a curse from God, that has flip-flopped on this issue, who hired illegal aliens to do his lawn -until he decided he was running for office, for Pete's Sake..

Yeah, this is the guy we want to win these folks over.

The thing is, Hispanics would be a solid addition to the GOP Coalition. They are culturally conservative, have traditional values, believe in hard work and family.

But the GOP seems intent on alienating them.

Wow, advice from a hateful fucking bigot and an OBVIOUS liberal democrat. Just what we need...

JoeB is a liberal? The last refuge of the clueless.

 

[Flopper]

It seems an odd time to be making this pledge. According to Intrade, Romney's stock has never been higher (77% odds of capturing the nomination), and some people have suggested that Romney's fierce hawkish immigration stance is hurting both him and his party. Now he is attacking a relatively popular pro-immigrant program (at one point, the DREAM Act had 54% approval Poll: 54 percent support DREAM Act – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs). It seems that Romney is not done running to the right.

You have the wrong poll numbers. The dream act is a loser.
FAIR: Public Opinion on Immigration

I would not trust that poll. It appears to be commissioned by FAIR itself, which seems to be more interested in producing propaganda than analysis (I tend to stay away from SPLC-designated hate groups when searching for factual information). Neither the poll or its full methodology seems to be publicly available. In deference to FAIR, while they don't disclose methodology they do admit that they supplied some secret "facts" (I'm guessing something along the lines of "the DREAM Act provides amnesty for illegal immigrants and allows illegal immigrants to pay lower college tuition than US citizens"). This would make this a "push poll", which is fine propaganda but lousy data. (FAIR: Poll Shows Most Voters Do Not Support DREAM Act).

You haven't told me why you distrust CNN's numbers, but it may interest you to know that Rasmussen (Rasmussen: Voters Support Idea of DREAM Act | The Washington Independent) and Gallup (Slim Majority of Americans Would Vote for DREAM Act Law) found very similar methods of support. These organizations are of course more well-known than Pulse polling, and actually release their methodologies.

The Dream Act will have no effect on illegal immigration, but will allow kids that were brought to this country by their parents to serve in the military, go to college, and become productive members of society. This is why most people support the act.

CBS “Reader Poll” Shows High DREAM Act Support | America’s Voice | America's Voice

Gallup: Majority of Americans support DREAM Act | Immigration Chronicles | a Chron.com blog

LD Tracking Poll — Latino Voters Overwhelmingly Support DREAM Act « Latino Decisions

Majority Support the DREAM Act, Poll Finds — Immigration | The Texas Tribune

Poll-DREAM Act Supported by Strong Majority | New York State Immigrant Action Fund

 

[Flopper]

The Dream Act is unfair and would encourage even more illegal immigration.

Romney pledges to veto federal DREAM Act for immigrants - Election 2012 - The Washington Post

I fail to see how the Dream Act would encourage more illegal immigration being that it only applies to people who were brought here illegally as children. You can't sneak across the border at 18 and then get the benefits of the Dream Act.

It's a sensible solution for people who essentially have no country.

You don't see how the promise of eventual legalization for their young children would induce more people to take the risk and come here?

How can the law be an enticement to enter the US illegally when the law requires that the child has lived here for at least five years before the law was enacted enactment?

The DREAM Act

 

[Unkotare]

Trying to duck the fact that your incredibly thin cover has been blown AGAIN? Why don't you stop the bullshit and just be honest for once?

I'm perfectly honest. .

You've never done that here.

 

[Unkotare]

The only ignorant person here appears to be you. People defending this program have presented logical arguments in favor for it. All you can do is call people names like a little ten year old child. How about you go back to your playpen and let the adults have a conversation.

Oh, an adult conversation, eh? Pretending that granting amnesty won't encourage more illegal immigration is "adult"?

What amnesty?

Try to pay attention, moron.

 

[Unkotare]

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JoeB is a liberal? :.

He sure is.

 

[Unkotare]

I fail to see how the Dream Act would encourage more illegal immigration being that it only applies to people who were brought here illegally as children. You can't sneak across the border at 18 and then get the benefits of the Dream Act.

It's a sensible solution for people who essentially have no country.

You don't see how the promise of eventual legalization for their young children would induce more people to take the risk and come here?

How can the law be an enticement to enter the US illegally when the law requires that the child has lived here for at least five years before the law was enacted enactment?

The DREAM Act

Don't be naive

 

[Zoom]

The Dream Act is unfair and would encourage even more illegal immigration.

Romney pledges to veto federal DREAM Act for immigrants - Election 2012 - The Washington Post

Romney pledges to veto federal DREAM Act for immigrants


Well, he never intended to get the hispanic vote anyway. He is going for the uh, well, look at him physically. That is who is he targeting.

I cant wait to see the republican party trying to rally behind a mormon. It will be comical.

 

[Wacky Quacky]

I fail to see how the Dream Act would encourage more illegal immigration being that it only applies to people who were brought here illegally as children. You can't sneak across the border at 18 and then get the benefits of the Dream Act.

It's a sensible solution for people who essentially have no country.

You don't see how the promise of eventual legalization for their young children would induce more people to take the risk and come here?

How can the law be an enticement to enter the US illegally when the law requires that the child has lived here for at least five years before the law was enacted enactment?

The DREAM Act

And of course there's no issues with proving how long an undocumented illegal immigrant has been here.