Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature currently requires accessing the site using the built-in Safari browser.
Try to pay attention, moron.
Go ahead, smart guy, tell us all about the "amnesty" in the bill.
Start by reading ALL the posts, idiot.
We aren't about to deport 11 million people because the American public doesn't support it.
We aren't about to deport 11 million people because the American public doesn't support it. In fact polls show that most Americans believe there should be a path to citizenship. The Dream Act is a sensible way to begin dealing with the problem. It gives those that are here illegally through no fault of their own a chance at the American dream if they are willing work for it. It's good legislation and should have been passed 10 years ago when it was first introduced.To think that the Dream Act would entice parents to come to this country when their kids clearly do not qualify is being just a bit paranoid.
These kids did not choose to violate our laws, their parents did. To hold them responsible for what their parents did is not right. Without documentation, the best these kids can hope for is menial jobs or a life of crime. This law would make it possible for those that wanted to make something of themselves to become an asset instead a liability to the country.
The message this bill sends to those considering illegal entry is that future legislation will be not benefit you.
DREAM Act Provisions
The legislation would provide a path to conditional legal residency for undocumented immigrant students if he/she:
Was 15 years old or younger when brought to the United States
Has lived here for at least five years before enactment of law
Is of good moral character
Has earned a high school diploma or GED
Eligible students would have six years to earn permanent residency status if they:
Complete two years of higher education, or
Complete two years of military service with honorable discharge if discharged.
They're not being enticed by the Dream Act itself, but more so the promise it makes saying that the US will undoubtedly pass more legislation which rewards breaking federal law. Our elected officials are sending a signal to would be illegal immigrants saying "Go ahead and break our laws, we won't hold it against you, and in fact we'll make it worth your while".
The only message this bill sends to those considering illegal entry is that future legislation will be written so it does not benefit you.
Trying to duck the fact that your incredibly thin cover has been blown AGAIN? Why don't you stop the bullshit and just be honest for once?
I'm perfectly honest. .
You've never done that here.
Go ahead, smart guy, tell us all about the "amnesty" in the bill.
Start by reading ALL the posts, idiot.
I have read every post in this thread and I have all about the legislation. I'm very familiar with it.
You are projecting, grasshopper.
We aren't about to deport 11 million people because the American public doesn't support it.
Whether or not the public supports deportation, it doesn't matter. It's logistically impossible to deport all of those people. Even if we sealed off the border tomorrow and not another person snuck across and we managed to deport 1 million illegals a year (not even close to feasible) it would still take anywhere from 12 to 20 years to get rid of them. This is what the hardliners on the issue aren't considering. It cannot be done.
Immaterial, grasshopper. You will addressed whenever I wish to address you. End of story.
Great. Now go look up the word "amnesty."
Amnesty | Define Amnesty at Dictionary.com
1. a general pardon for offenses, especially political offenses, against a government, often granted before any trial or conviction.
2. Law . an act of forgiveness for past offenses, especially to a class of persons as a whole.
3. a forgetting or overlooking of any past offense.
Immaterial, grasshopper. You will addressed whenever I wish to address you. End of story.
Will you ever wish to learn English, you fucking moron?
Great. Now go look up the word "amnesty."
Amnesty | Define Amnesty at Dictionary.com
1. a general pardon for offenses, especially political offenses, against a government, often granted before any trial or conviction.
2. Law . an act of forgiveness for past offenses, especially to a class of persons as a whole.
3. a forgetting or overlooking of any past offense.
Okay, here's the key thing. Giving residency to people brought here as children is not an amnesty, because children can't legally be held accountable for offenses committed by their parents.
They were not old enough to consent to commit a crime. Therefore, not Amnesty.
Great. Now go look up the word "amnesty."
Amnesty | Define Amnesty at Dictionary.com
1. a general pardon for offenses, especially political offenses, against a government, often granted before any trial or conviction.
2. Law . an act of forgiveness for past offenses, especially to a class of persons as a whole.
3. a forgetting or overlooking of any past offense.
Okay, here's the key thing. Giving residency to people brought here as children is not an amnesty, because children can't legally be held accountable for offenses committed by their parents.
They were not old enough to consent to commit a crime. Therefore, not Amnesty.
You fail, Matlock. They most certainly can be held accountable by being removed from this country. The United States is - OF COURSE - well within her rights in deporting those who are here illegally regardless of how old they were when they arrived. Choosing to PARDON that illegal status - for whatever reason and subject to whatever terms - is amnesty. If they are not held accountable but rather FORGIVEN that illegal status then that is amnesty. Whether you think this proposed law is a good idea, or humane, or fair or not the fact remains that amnesty will encourage further illegal immigration. No such law or other form of amnesty will be reasonable and truly human unless we FIRST very seriously secure our borders.
Great. Now go look up the word "amnesty."
Amnesty | Define Amnesty at Dictionary.com
1. a general pardon for offenses, especially political offenses, against a government, often granted before any trial or conviction.
2. Law . an act of forgiveness for past offenses, especially to a class of persons as a whole.
3. a forgetting or overlooking of any past offense.
Okay, here's the key thing. Giving residency to people brought here as children is not an amnesty, because children can't legally be held accountable for offenses committed by their parents.
They were not old enough to consent to commit a crime. Therefore, not Amnesty.
You fail, Matlock. They most certainly can be held accountable by being removed from this country. The United States is - OF COURSE - well within her rights in deporting those who are here illegally regardless of how old they were when they arrived. Choosing to PARDON that illegal status - for whatever reason and subject to whatever terms - is amnesty. If they are not held accountable but rather FORGIVEN that illegal status then that is amnesty. Whether you think this proposed law is a good idea, or humane, or fair or not the fact remains that amnesty will encourage further illegal immigration. No such law or other form of amnesty will be reasonable and truly human unless we FIRST very seriously secure our borders.
We aren't about to deport 11 million people because the American public doesn't support it.
Whether or not the public supports deportation, it doesn't matter. It's logistically impossible to deport all of those people. Even if we sealed off the border tomorrow and not another person snuck across and we managed to deport 1 million illegals a year (not even close to feasible) it would still take anywhere from 12 to 20 years to get rid of them. This is what the hardliners on the issue aren't considering. It cannot be done.
Holy crap you're a dim-wit.
Okay, here's the key thing. Giving residency to people brought here as children is not an amnesty, because children can't legally be held accountable for offenses committed by their parents.
They were not old enough to consent to commit a crime. Therefore, not Amnesty.
You fail, Matlock. They most certainly can be held accountable by being removed from this country. The United States is - OF COURSE - well within her rights in deporting those who are here illegally regardless of how old they were when they arrived. Choosing to PARDON that illegal status - for whatever reason and subject to whatever terms - is amnesty. If they are not held accountable but rather FORGIVEN that illegal status then that is amnesty. Whether you think this proposed law is a good idea, or humane, or fair or not the fact remains that amnesty will encourage further illegal immigration. No such law or other form of amnesty will be reasonable and truly human unless we FIRST very seriously secure our borders.
Guy, your claim was that they were getting Amnesty. They can't get amnesty because THEY PERSONALLY didn't commit a crime. Their parents did. .
Okay, here's the key thing. Giving residency to people brought here as children is not an amnesty, because children can't legally be held accountable for offenses committed by their parents.
They were not old enough to consent to commit a crime. Therefore, not Amnesty.
You fail, Matlock. They most certainly can be held accountable by being removed from this country. The United States is - OF COURSE - well within her rights in deporting those who are here illegally regardless of how old they were when they arrived. Choosing to PARDON that illegal status - for whatever reason and subject to whatever terms - is amnesty. If they are not held accountable but rather FORGIVEN that illegal status then that is amnesty. Whether you think this proposed law is a good idea, or humane, or fair or not the fact remains that amnesty will encourage further illegal immigration. No such law or other form of amnesty will be reasonable and truly human unless we FIRST very seriously secure our borders.
No major deportation will occur, because the great majority of Americans have repeatedly opposed the idea. A better border security is necessary, laws holding businesses to a fierce punishment for violating zero tolerance are necessary, and an amnesty program is necessary. .
You fail, Matlock. They most certainly can be held accountable by being removed from this country. The United States is - OF COURSE - well within her rights in deporting those who are here illegally regardless of how old they were when they arrived. Choosing to PARDON that illegal status - for whatever reason and subject to whatever terms - is amnesty. If they are not held accountable but rather FORGIVEN that illegal status then that is amnesty. Whether you think this proposed law is a good idea, or humane, or fair or not the fact remains that amnesty will encourage further illegal immigration. No such law or other form of amnesty will be reasonable and truly human unless we FIRST very seriously secure our borders.
Whether or not the public supports deportation, it doesn't matter. It's logistically impossible to deport all of those people. Even if we sealed off the border tomorrow and not another person snuck across and we managed to deport 1 million illegals a year (not even close to feasible) it would still take anywhere from 12 to 20 years to get rid of them. This is what the hardliners on the issue aren't considering. It cannot be done.
Holy crap you're a dim-wit.
Your continued lashing out those who disagree with you is a pretty clear sign of defeat on your part. You have yet to provide a single shred of anything that supports your argument. It's pretty clear that the only ignorant individual here is you. Like I said earlier, go back to your playpen where you belong.
