Not everyone thinks that fetuses are babies... in fact, this has never been the case in science, law or even religion.
No one supports "murder", they simply recognize the law as it is.
That person had his say when he shot his wad. At that point he has no say. It would be the same if he wanted an abortion and she wanted to keep it. Too bad,buddy, get ready for that wage garnishment.
See I was right you can't have a sensible discussion because you refuse to admit the unborn have no say in what affects them.
Since they haven't been born yet, they have no say.
As a practical matter, as long as they have to stay inside the other person, they really have no say.
Women will get abortions no matter what the law is.
They have no say with what happens to them? And you support dick suckers top have a right to be immoral and in a system called marriage? You're a stupid son of a bitch.