Right wingnut radio dying - needs to be put to sleep

[Flopper]

the problem with talk radio is there is no real reason to listen to three hours of any given show - and all the shows are so similar that there's no real reason to listen beyond one show.

Let's take Sean Hannity for example. He has a three hour show. Fully a third of that will be commercials so we're down to two hours. Then we have intros and bumpers and self promotion which would (without taking a stopwatch to it) add up to at least another 20 minutes. So we're down to 100 minutes.

Then there are the callers - repetitive, mindless, and often incomprehensible. they take up a good portion of the show - let's call it 15 minutes an hour.

so for those doing the math that's 180-60-20-45 = 55 minutes

so with 55 minutes of 'content' what do we get? i don't know about you guys but i often hear the same sound bites and montages day after day after day - that's gotta be a good 15 minutes of the remaining time. We also have guests - either the politician of the day that will be lobbed softballs for 10 minutes or the demon of the day that will be shouted over and asked when he stopped beating his wife questions. There's usually at least one of those segments each hour. So we're under a half hour of content. And what is that content? Part of it is banter amongst the producers and screeners and part of it, maybe 10 or so minutes each day - part of it is original content from the host.

Now why on earth would anyone need to listen to 180 minutes of radio each day to get 10 minutes of new, orignal content (must of which is just spluttering out old talking points)?

It's sort of like subscibing to Cosmo. New cover every month, same stories inside.

I think you can say the same thing about most talk radio, right or left. It's repetitive because it's not as important what you say as how often you say it. Whether you're selling soap or a political idea, you must be repetitive.

I love it when someone from the opposition get's pass the people filtering the calls. It often throws the host off balance and he cuts the caller off before he gets started.

Every so often they will throw in the inept odd ball guest from the opposition. They let him ramble for a while, then ask a few leading questions. If the guest responds as hoped with some lunatic idea, the host tears into him. When the guest tries to defend himself, the host cuts him off and ridicules him. The interesting part is what follows. The host with the help of callers, imply that the opposition shares the views of the guest. If the host is successful, then the audience will believe the guest is representative of the opposition. All the great propagandist from Goebbels, to McCarthy, to current talk show hosts, have been very effective with this technique.

 

[lvcabbie]

Uh, this must be truly difficult to figure out - if you don't like them - change the station!!!!!!!

 

[ogibillm]

the problem with talk radio is there is no real reason to listen to three hours of any given show - and all the shows are so similar that there's no real reason to listen beyond one show.

Let's take Sean Hannity for example. He has a three hour show. Fully a third of that will be commercials so we're down to two hours. Then we have intros and bumpers and self promotion which would (without taking a stopwatch to it) add up to at least another 20 minutes. So we're down to 100 minutes.

Then there are the callers - repetitive, mindless, and often incomprehensible. they take up a good portion of the show - let's call it 15 minutes an hour.

so for those doing the math that's 180-60-20-45 = 55 minutes

so with 55 minutes of 'content' what do we get? i don't know about you guys but i often hear the same sound bites and montages day after day after day - that's gotta be a good 15 minutes of the remaining time. We also have guests - either the politician of the day that will be lobbed softballs for 10 minutes or the demon of the day that will be shouted over and asked when he stopped beating his wife questions. There's usually at least one of those segments each hour. So we're under a half hour of content. And what is that content? Part of it is banter amongst the producers and screeners and part of it, maybe 10 or so minutes each day - part of it is original content from the host.

Now why on earth would anyone need to listen to 180 minutes of radio each day to get 10 minutes of new, orignal content (must of which is just spluttering out old talking points)?

It's sort of like subscibing to Cosmo. New cover every month, same stories inside.

I think you can say the same thing about most talk radio, right or left. It's repetitive because it's not as important what you say as how often you say it. Whether you're selling soap or a political idea, you must be repetitive.

I love it when someone from the opposition get's pass the people filtering the calls. It often throws the host off balance and he cuts the caller off before he gets started.

Every so often they will throw in the inept odd ball guest from the opposition. They let him ramble for a while, then ask a few leading questions. If the guest responds as hoped with some lunatic idea, the host tears into him. When the guest tries to defend himself, the host cuts him off and ridicules him. The interesting part is what follows. The host with the help of callers, imply that the opposition shares the views of the guest. If the host is successful, then the audience will believe the guest is representative of the opposition. All the great propagandist from Goebbels, to McCarthy, to current talk show hosts, have been very effective with this technique.

very well said. i couldn't agree more.

 

[Flopper]

After you silence talk show hosts, what books should we burn?

I don’t want to silence them; I want their listeners to do by cutting them off. I would like to see hosts that discuss issues rather preach, interview the opposition rather than interrogate, and listen to callers from the opposition rather ridicule and censure. They promote hate and dissension and make it difficult for people to work together to solve common problems.

Don't almost all of those hosts take phone calls and have on guests with opposing views? Every one of them I listen too has opposing views on the show.

It must be books that you want to destroy? They almost all have one perspective, include Obama's. Should we start with burning his? Now for the record, I think you should be able to write, own or read books on Communism for example. We don't need censorship, we need more freedom. Democrats don't want freedom. They want total control what you watch, read, write or listen too.

Where is the "MSNBC Lies" campaign from the right? We all know they do lie, but we just change the channel. We truly support the 1st Amendment.

We love freedom

Freedom or Big Government - You can't have both

All of the talk show host see that the majority of callers are supportive. Most hosts have their producer screen the calls to select intelligent supporters and opposition nut cases. I listened to an entire Limbaugh broadcast. There were no calls from the opposition. I listened to Thom Hartmann, a left wing talk show host. His callers were about 80 to 90% leftwing.

I don’t want to see the government silence any of the talk show people. I want their audience to demand better more objective programming, from real journalist and people who know politics, not propagandist. Have you every look at the background of these talk show hosts?

Sean Hannity – a college dropout who has done practically nothing but talk radio/tv from day one.

Rush Limgaugh – a college dropout who flunked everything and a prescription drug abuser, who worked as disk jockey for many years and then talk radio/tv

Glenn Beck – Never attended college, a recovering alcoholic and drug abuser who worked in odd jobs in radio then a radio/tv.

Instead of these hacks, we need more real news and political commentators, people with real talent and ideas, the likes of:
Gore Vidal
William F. Buckley
John Cameron Swaysee
Walter Cronkrite
Edward R. Murrow
John Chancellor
Bob Schieffer

 

[Stephanie]

I don’t want to silence them; I want their listeners to do by cutting them off. I would like to see hosts that discuss issues rather preach, interview the opposition rather than interrogate, and listen to callers from the opposition rather ridicule and censure. They promote hate and dissension and make it difficult for people to work together to solve common problems.

Don't almost all of those hosts take phone calls and have on guests with opposing views? Every one of them I listen too has opposing views on the show.

It must be books that you want to destroy? They almost all have one perspective, include Obama's. Should we start with burning his? Now for the record, I think you should be able to write, own or read books on Communism for example. We don't need censorship, we need more freedom. Democrats don't want freedom. They want total control what you watch, read, write or listen too.

Where is the "MSNBC Lies" campaign from the right? We all know they do lie, but we just change the channel. We truly support the 1st Amendment.

We love freedom

Freedom or Big Government - You can't have both

All of the talk show host see that the majority of callers are supportive. Most hosts have their producer screen the calls to select intelligent supporters and opposition nut cases. I listened to an entire Limbaugh broadcast. There were no calls from the opposition. I listened to Thom Hartmann, a left wing talk show host. His callers were about 80 to 90% leftwing.

I don’t want to see the government silence any of the talk show people. I want their audience to demand better more objective programming, from real journalist and people who know politics, not propagandist. Have you every look at the background of these talk show hosts?

Sean Hannity – a college dropout who has done practically nothing but talk radio/tv from day one.

Rush Limgaugh – a college dropout who flunked everything and a prescription drug abuser, who worked as disk jockey for many years and then talk radio/tv

Glenn Beck – Never attended college, a recovering alcoholic and drug abuser who worked in odd jobs in radio then a radio/tv.

Instead of these hacks, we need more real news and political commentators, people with real talent and ideas, the likes of:
Gore Vidal
William F. Buckley
John Cameron Swaysee
Walter Cronkrite
Edward R. Murrow
John Chancellor
Bob Schieffer

Oh brother, REAL talant. anyone listen to Gore Vidal rants lately. and Bob Schieffer is so far in the Democrats back pocket they squash him when they sit down. as for the rest. yawn.

 

[Avatar4321]

The left wants so badly to silence Talk Radio and Fox News. Who cares about free speech? It is all about control. They must control what you watch and listen too. God forbid there is an alternative point of view.

I wonder when they will start wanting to burn books?

After they succeed at silencing radio.

 

[Avatar4321]

I find them extemely unAmerican. What else would you call people who are constantly trying to sow dissension amongst their fellow Americans? Fifth columnists?!?!

Democrats

 

[The T]

Funny how much the radio listening audience mirrors the general population.

The Republican Party is 90% white. Right wing radio is huge because there is a huge group that walk, looks and talks alike.

Then you look at "so-called" liberal radio. I don't even know what that is. Why? Because it mirrors the Democratic Party. There is Hispanic radio and as you go down the line, the stations narrow audiences are different slices of the Democratic Party. No wonder you need the word "diversity".

*YOU* realize that you just killed your argument here don't you Deany?

Your trollish adventure continues none the less.

 

[American Cowboy]

I don’t want to silence them; I want their listeners to do by cutting them off. I would like to see hosts that discuss issues rather preach, interview the opposition rather than interrogate, and listen to callers from the opposition rather ridicule and censure. They promote hate and dissension and make it difficult for people to work together to solve common problems.

Don't almost all of those hosts take phone calls and have on guests with opposing views? Every one of them I listen too has opposing views on the show.

It must be books that you want to destroy? They almost all have one perspective, include Obama's. Should we start with burning his? Now for the record, I think you should be able to write, own or read books on Communism for example. We don't need censorship, we need more freedom. Democrats don't want freedom. They want total control what you watch, read, write or listen too.

Where is the "MSNBC Lies" campaign from the right? We all know they do lie, but we just change the channel. We truly support the 1st Amendment.

We love freedom

Freedom or Big Government - You can't have both

All of the talk show host see that the majority of callers are supportive. Most hosts have their producer screen the calls to select intelligent supporters and opposition nut cases. I listened to an entire Limbaugh broadcast. There were no calls from the opposition. I listened to Thom Hartmann, a left wing talk show host. His callers were about 80 to 90% leftwing.

I listen to Andrew Wilkow and Mark Levin. Both put liberals through before taking conservative callers

I don’t want to see the government silence any of the talk show people. I want their audience to demand better more objective programming, from real journalist and people who know politics, not propagandist.

It does not matter what you want. You don't get to decide. It is called Freespeech for a reason. You have the right to change the station, that is it. I have a right to listen to whom ever I want. Mind your own damn business you control freak.

Have you every look at the background of these talk show hosts?

Sean Hannity – a college dropout who has done practically nothing but talk radio/tv from day one.

Rush Limgaugh – a college dropout who flunked everything and a prescription drug abuser, who worked as disk jockey for many years and then talk radio/tv

Glenn Beck – Never attended college, a recovering alcoholic and drug abuser who worked in odd jobs in radio then a radio/tv.

Yet these guys have made millions because there are people who agree with them. They have the right to there opinions without your approvel and censorship from the left. Everyone is entiled to Freespeech regardless of background. There are millions of listeners who enjoy their shows everyday. Thank God it is not up to you and the Commies that want to shut them down.

Instead of these hacks, we need more real news and political commentators, people with real talent and ideas, the likes of:
Gore Vidal
William F. Buckley
John Cameron Swaysee
Walter Cronkrite
Edward R. Murrow
John Chancellor
Bob Schieffer

That is your opinion. I have no interest in a shows featuring any of those you have listed. I will stick to Andrew Wilkow and Mark Levin shows.

If you have not heard Andrew Wilkow, here he is talking about censorship and public radio

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zk0bmCn-zQ]YouTube - Wilkow Majority 03/18/2011 Opening Monologue[/ame]

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Static makes more sense than Liberal Talk Radio and is easier on the ears too

 

[American Cowboy]

Static makes more sense than Liberal Talk Radio and is easier on the ears too

It is a little like pulling up to the red light with the top down and having to listen to the guy sitting at the bus stop talk to himself.

 

[daveman]

The left wants so badly to silence Talk Radio and Fox News. Who cares about free speech? It is all about control. They must control what you watch and listen too. God forbid there is an alternative point of view.

I wonder when they will start wanting to burn books?

 

[ogibillm]

there's something deeply ironic about a poster of limbaugh as a wanted man with the pejorative slogan 'we'll do the thinking for you' on it

megadittos.

 

[Flopper]

Don't almost all of those hosts take phone calls and have on guests with opposing views? Every one of them I listen too has opposing views on the show.

It must be books that you want to destroy? They almost all have one perspective, include Obama's. Should we start with burning his? Now for the record, I think you should be able to write, own or read books on Communism for example. We don't need censorship, we need more freedom. Democrats don't want freedom. They want total control what you watch, read, write or listen too.

Where is the "MSNBC Lies" campaign from the right? We all know they do lie, but we just change the channel. We truly support the 1st Amendment.

We love freedom

Freedom or Big Government - You can't have both

All of the talk show host see that the majority of callers are supportive. Most hosts have their producer screen the calls to select intelligent supporters and opposition nut cases. I listened to an entire Limbaugh broadcast. There were no calls from the opposition. I listened to Thom Hartmann, a left wing talk show host. His callers were about 80 to 90% leftwing.

I listen to Andrew Wilkow and Mark Levin. Both put liberals through before taking conservative callers



It does not matter what you want. You don't get to decide. It is called Freespeech for a reason. You have the right to change the station, that is it. I have a right to listen to whom ever I want. Mind your own damn business you control freak.

Have you every look at the background of these talk show hosts?

Sean Hannity – a college dropout who has done practically nothing but talk radio/tv from day one.

Rush Limgaugh – a college dropout who flunked everything and a prescription drug abuser, who worked as disk jockey for many years and then talk radio/tv

Glenn Beck – Never attended college, a recovering alcoholic and drug abuser who worked in odd jobs in radio then a radio/tv.

Yet these guys have made millions because there are people who agree with them. They have the right to there opinions without your approvel and censorship from the left. Everyone is entiled to Freespeech regardless of background. There are millions of listeners who enjoy their shows everyday. Thank God it is not up to you and the Commies that want to shut them down.

Instead of these hacks, we need more real news and political commentators, people with real talent and ideas, the likes of:
Gore Vidal
William F. Buckley
John Cameron Swaysee
Walter Cronkrite
Edward R. Murrow
John Chancellor
Bob Schieffer

That is your opinion. I have no interest in a shows featuring any of those you have listed. I will stick to Andrew Wilkow and Mark Levin shows.

If you have not heard Andrew Wilkow, here he is talking about censorship and public radio

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zk0bmCn-zQ]YouTube - Wilkow Majority 03/18/2011 Opening Monologue[/ame]

If you're looking for someone to tell you what to think or to reinforce your beliefs, then talk radio is for you. For the rest of us, it's a waste.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh are losing fans in a key market. John Avlon on why listeners and station managers are sick of anti-Obama tirades—and who bucks the trend.

Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity Ratings Drop: Right-Wing Talk Is Dying

if we want to expand, we've got to be doing more than 18 hours a day of ‘Obama is a socialist.’

for the most part political talk, particularly ideological political talk of any stripe, appeals to old people.”
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They used to pass out little booklets that people would fill out. More of a popularity contest. Now, with all the electronics, the ratings are "real".

Dean do me a favor. Compare Rush's total audience on the radio 5 years ago to today and tell me what you find.

Just in case you dont decide to do this I will tell you that yes rush's ratings have dropped in the last few months but compared to 5 years ago he is still up in his listenership.

Its hard to take you very serious with your blatant disregard for this fact and your comment about conservatives being 90% white, another incorrect "fact"

 

[daveman]

there's something deeply ironic about a poster of limbaugh as a wanted man with the pejorative slogan 'we'll do the thinking for you' on it

megadittos.

I'm sure it comforts you to feel that way. Meanwhile, perhaps you can explain the leftist contempt for free speech...?

 

[Mad Scientist]

Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and Rush Limbaugh are losing fans in a key market. John Avlon on why listeners and station managers are sick of anti-Obama tirades—and who bucks the trend.

Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity Ratings Drop: Right-Wing Talk Is Dying

if we want to expand, we've got to be doing more than 18 hours a day of ‘Obama is a socialist.’

for the most part political talk, particularly ideological political talk of any stripe, appeals to old people.”
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They used to pass out little booklets that people would fill out. More of a popularity contest. Now, with all the electronics, the ratings are "real".

I don't listen to Rush anymore, but it's not for the reason you think. Rush said in 2008 after Obama was elected that he wasn't going to cheerlead the Republican Party anymore yet that is exactly what he continues to do.

Loss of support for Rush Limbaugh doesn't translate to support for Liberals. That's where you an other Liberals are mistaken. But please, continue to think so.

There is one radio program that is going up in ratings but I bet you'll never find it because HuffPo and Bill Mahr don't talk about it.

 

[ogibillm]

there's something deeply ironic about a poster of limbaugh as a wanted man with the pejorative slogan 'we'll do the thinking for you' on it

megadittos.

I'm sure it comforts you to feel that way. Meanwhile, perhaps you can explain the leftist contempt for free speech...?

sure. it's in your head.

 

[daveman]

there's something deeply ironic about a poster of limbaugh as a wanted man with the pejorative slogan 'we'll do the thinking for you' on it

megadittos.

I'm sure it comforts you to feel that way. Meanwhile, perhaps you can explain the leftist contempt for free speech...?

sure. it's in your head.

I'm sure that comforts you, too, but no.

 

[ogibillm]

I'm sure it comforts you to feel that way. Meanwhile, perhaps you can explain the leftist contempt for free speech...?

sure. it's in your head.

I'm sure that comforts you, too, but no.

i'm afraid it is, especially if you think this thread is any indication of 'the left's contempt for free speech'