Right To Work...

[paulitician]

I'm actually shocked so many support forcing others to join Unions. It's very Un-American. All States should be 'Right to Work' States. If Unions truly are so great, they shouldn't have to force people to join. People will do it willingly. But they should have the right to decide.

Of course women should have the right to choose, we should have the right to own a gun, we should have the right to work.

Yeah, if your ideas and beliefs are truly good, you won't have to force people to go along. They'll go along willingly. Unions should not have the right to force anyone to join. 'Right to Work' is as American as it gets. It is shocking so many oppose it.

 

[Star]

What does "RIGHT TO WORK" mean... what a stupid name. Right to work is a clever way of chiseling away at the rights of workers. This is an anti worker nation. But there is the right to work for lower wages.

It means you have the right to work without being forced into a third party contract, ie. a union.

Are you just another Republican mythmeister or-----or are you purposely lying about people being "forced" to join a union against their will?

Forbes says you're lying your ass off, how do you respond to Forbes accusation that you're a liar?


http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/12/11/right-to-work-laws-explained-debunked-demystified/

Which brings us to myth number 2….

Non-union members, who are required to pay the union dues even when not a member, are—as a result of paying these dues—being forced to contribute to the political activities of the union despite their disagreement with the political goals the union may choose to pursue.

Again….not true.



At this point the vote looks to be... to close to call but-----but Boeing workers in South Carolina seem poised to send a message to companies that pit state against state in order to wring billions dollars out of taxpayers to pass labor unfriendly "Right To Work" laws.

More than 30% of eligible Boeing workers have already signed authorization cards, Boeing workers will cast their secret ballots on April 22. Boeing is known for

Support Grows For Boeing South Carolina Workers​

March 20, 2015

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“When you get married, you sign a contract with the person you love and respect more than anyone else in the world,” explains McKee. “And your job is how you support your family that you love. So why would you work without something in writing?”

But what should be a simple decision, to have a voice and stability at work, is clouded by anti-union politicians who are looking out for their own gain, and not for Boeing South Carolina workers.

“The problem in South Carolina is we’re taught from a very young age, even at the churches and schools, that unions are evil,” said Joe Shelley, a boiler operator at KapStone Paper Co. in Charleston and a member of the United Steelworkers (USW). “People have this whole concept that unions have destroyed our middle class. What they’ve forgotten is how the middle class was developed by the unions.”

And unions such as the IAM continue to fight for the middle class. Union workers earn an average of 30 percent more in wages than their non-union counterparts, and have much higher access to benefits like health insurance and retirement plans.

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[Gadawg73]

Union membership is growing in right to work states and declining in union shop states. Why is that?

 

[Stephanie]

How dare a STATE make their own laws that cuts out the money for UNIONS

What give them the right eh?

problem is too many low info people fall for this type of propaganda.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Union membership is growing in right to work states and declining in union shop states. Why is that?

Why do you fucking morons insist on pursuing agendas that are easily debunked as pure ignorant shit??

Where are those pesky URL links with those pesky FACTS and FIGURES to support that lie??

From Right-to-Work to the Servant Economy

-- By the Editorial Board, St. Louis Post-Dispatch

Two Mondays ago, Scott Walker, the governor of Wisconsin and a fast-rising Republican star, signed a “right-to-work” bill into law in his state, calling it “one more tool that will help grow good-paying, family-supporting jobs here in the state of Wisconsin.”

In fact, if experience from other right-to-work states is any indicator, it’s likely to do just the opposite. It may, indeed, attract more jobs, but most of them won’t pay enough to support a family.

The decline of America’s middle class in the past four decades is attributable to many factors, one of them being the decline in union membership; right-to-work depresses union membership further. It will decrease dues payments that unions tend to spend on candidates who support unions, most of whom are not Republicans.

Missouri, largely because of good labor-management relations in St. Louis, remains a union shop state. But only 8.4 percent of workers in Missouri belong to a union. Wisconsin’s union membership rate in 2014 was 11.7 percent. Wisconsin’s median household income of $52,413 is 9.6 percent higher than Missouri’s $47,380. Now that Wisconsin is a right-to-work state, perhaps it will sink closer to Missouri.

From Right-to-Work to the Servant Economy PR Watch

Now the won't pay enough to support a family is subjective and parameters such as living with in ones means must be taken into consideration ................

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Wisconsin judge declines to block new right-to-work law

Protesters march around the Wisconsin State Capitol after participating in a rally against a "right-to-work" proposal, on Saturday, Feb. 28, 2015, in Madison, Wis. (Steve Apps, AP)
By Associated Press
A judge Thursday declined to block Wisconsin's new right-to-work law, allowing it to remain in effect while a union lawsuit challenging the statute proceeds.

Dane County Circuit Judge William Foust rejected the request by three unions to grant a temporary injunction blocking the law from being enforced pending the outcome of their legal challenge.

Right-to-work laws prohibit businesses and unions from reaching agreements that require all workers, not just union members, to pay union dues. Twenty-four states also have such statutes.

Wisconsin judge declines to block new right-to-work law - Chicago Tribune

 

[Stephanie]

Please, the st. Louis dispatch is just like reading a DNC press release.

If anyone's a servant they are to a party and unions

Notice they blame right to work and the decline of unions

of course it can't be 20 MILLION illegal immigrants being allowed to live here freely while sucking all our countries resources from YOU the legal citizens

 

[jc456]

And much lower costs of living

no money filling union thieves pockets.

 

[Stephanie]

And much lower costs of living

no money filling union thieves pockets.

that's all this crap about right to work is all about. they can't EXTORT more monies from companies and the people who work there

 

[warf]

The decline of union membership was mostly caused by the decision to divest The U.S. of it's manufacturing base.

This left clerical and service jobs. Since white collar workers don't face the dangerous working conditions that blue collar workers live with they don't value the protections that unions can provide.

White collar workers are also easier to divide. Many companies work to stop employees from talking to each other about their wages.

Can it be that so many of you are so young you don't remember how much better off the average worker was when we had strong unions?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Can it be that so many of you are so young you don't remember how much better off the average worker was when we had strong unions?

I have it very well at my job and no union got this for me.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

The decline of union membership was mostly caused by the decision to divest The U.S. of it's manufacturing base.

This left clerical and service jobs. Since white collar workers don't face the dangerous working conditions that blue collar workers live with they don't value the protections that unions can provide.

White collar workers are also easier to divide. Many companies work to stop employees from talking to each other about their wages.

Can it be that so many of you are so young you don't remember how much better off the average worker was when we had strong unions?

Try again .............

Unions in Decline
In recent decades, union power has declined considerably. In 1945, union membership peaked at 35% of non-agricultural workers. Today, only 12% of all workers are union members, and if government employees are taken out of the equation, the percentage of the civilian workers that are members of unions falls to 8%.

Economists offer several explanations for this rapid decline of union power. Some argue that company hostility to unions is the main cause. Armed with supportive legislation like the Taft- Hartley Act, large companies have waged a systematic campaign to eliminate union contracts and undercut union influence. Yet other economists argue almost the opposite—that overly aggressive unions are primarily to blame for their loss of influence. In the global economy, unions have hurt themselves by demanding too much from employers that can easily take their jobs elsewhere.

Other economists argue that the changing composition of the workforce is more responsible for declining union membership. Women and teenagers represent a larger part of the workforce than they did 50 years ago. And for many of these, their jobs represent a second or temporary income. Consequently, they are less interested in the long-term employment objectives pursued by unions. Similarly, illegal immigrants, now numbering, according to the United States Census, around 10.4 million adults, are not usually receptive to union organizing efforts.

Some economists argue that the shifting structure of the American economy is more responsible for declining union membership. Unions were well established in heavy industries, like steel and autos. But those represent a far smaller part of the economy than they did a half century ago. Far more jobs are being created in the service sector, which has proven resistant to union organization.

Finally, some economists suggest that since government has taken over some of the roles filled by unions in the past, union membership is less essential to workers. Congressional mandates addressing workplace discrimination and conditions, and establishing protections for family and medical leave, have addressed some of the worker concerns that formally led workers into unions.

Unions in Decline

 

[Stephanie]

Can it be that so many of you are so young you don't remember how much better off the average worker was when we had strong unions?

I have it very well at my job and no union got this for me.

that's what I thinking. I've worked most of my life without a union and did just fine

 

[Stephanie]

You see the unions want the control that they have in a country like France. they don't like something they can shut down a whole city or country. Put you the people in a positions to where you will CAVE to them then. that's what I don't care about union today. and I've worked at both union and non union jobs. I was shocked to see how they took advantage of the nuclear power plant we were working for. we didn't have much work that day..... they told us to go hide out.

 

[regent]

Another component on the scene is called "enlightened management" some employers have found that treating employees fairly is to their benefit. Would they have done so before all the laws and unions came into the picture, who knows.

 

[Iceweasel]

Another component on the scene is called "enlightened management" some employers have found that treating employees fairly is to their benefit. Would they have done so before all the laws and unions came into the picture, who knows.

Yep, contrary to popular belief there are good people out there that happen to be employers and many in government and unions are as useless as tits on a bull.

 

[Harry Dresden]

"Union" is nothing more than a code word for extortion. What they do is illegal and they should be banned.

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The market will decide what a fair wage is, not some gangster in a pin striped suit who uses threats and coercion and other strong arm tactics to extort money from businesses, forcing prices higher for the consumer. Most union employees don't deserve half of what they make.

Most union employees don't deserve half of what they make.

you can say the same thing about non-union workers too.......there is a guy on the Angel baseball team out here who plays around 40 games a year as a sub,has a .165 life time BA....through 2-3 thousand at bats.....and he gets 6 mill a year....thats overpaid....

 

[warf]

Can it be that so many of you are so young you don't remember how much better off the average worker was when we had strong unions?

I have it very well at my job and no union got this for me.

Good for you.

It might work out, depending on what type of job you have. Not so good if you're in the building trades.

 

[Harry Dresden]

'Right to work' laws are yet another example of failed conservative economic dogma.

Lmao another ignorant comment yet once again from the.left

Where did these companies move to along with there thousands of in house jobs plus the thousands and thousands of outside jobs ? Union states or RTW states?
Where did:
BMW
Toyota
Kia
Honda
VW
And a host of others move to?
America s Foreign Automaker Capitals - Forbes


If that is a failed policy, in your mind Detroit is a success story?

jones dont do questions.............he gets a tad nervous....

 

[warf]

The decline of union membership was mostly caused by the decision to divest The U.S. of it's manufacturing base.

This left clerical and service jobs. Since white collar workers don't face the dangerous working conditions that blue collar workers live with they don't value the protections that unions can provide.

White collar workers are also easier to divide. Many companies work to stop employees from talking to each other about their wages.

Can it be that so many of you are so young you don't remember how much better off the average worker was when we had strong unions?

Try again .............

Unions in Decline
In recent decades, union power has declined considerably. In 1945, union membership peaked at 35% of non-agricultural workers. Today, only 12% of all workers are union members, and if government employees are taken out of the equation, the percentage of the civilian workers that are members of unions falls to 8%.

Economists offer several explanations for this rapid decline of union power. Some argue that company hostility to unions is the main cause. Armed with supportive legislation like the Taft- Hartley Act, large companies have waged a systematic campaign to eliminate union contracts and undercut union influence. Yet other economists argue almost the opposite—that overly aggressive unions are primarily to blame for their loss of influence. In the global economy, unions have hurt themselves by demanding too much from employers that can easily take their jobs elsewhere.

Other economists argue that the changing composition of the workforce is more responsible for declining union membership. Women and teenagers represent a larger part of the workforce than they did 50 years ago. And for many of these, their jobs represent a second or temporary income. Consequently, they are less interested in the long-term employment objectives pursued by unions. Similarly, illegal immigrants, now numbering, according to the United States Census, around 10.4 million adults, are not usually receptive to union organizing efforts.

Some economists argue that the shifting structure of the American economy is more responsible for declining union membership. Unions were well established in heavy industries, like steel and autos. But those represent a far smaller part of the economy than they did a half century ago. Far more jobs are being created in the service sector, which has proven resistant to union organization.

Finally, some economists suggest that since government has taken over some of the roles filled by unions in the past, union membership is less essential to workers. Congressional mandates addressing workplace discrimination and conditions, and establishing protections for family and medical leave, have addressed some of the worker concerns that formally led workers into unions.

Unions in Decline

With trade agreements that let American companies shut down here and move to low wage countries, our good jobs are gone.

Employers didn't think union demands were out of place for this nation's standard of living. They just knew that Americans can't work for what Chinese will.

It's not union demands that made them move. It's corporate greed.