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The market will decide what a fair wage is
The market will decide what a fair wage is, not some gangster in a pin striped suit who uses threats and coercion and other strong arm tactics to extort money from businesses, forcing prices higher for the consumer. Most union employees don't deserve half of what they make."Union" is nothing more than a code word for extortion. What they do is illegal and they should be banned.
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You didn't have to tell us you hate Americans, we already knew.
It makes perfect sense-----perfect sense for the Corpratacracy to take away workers protection to get a day of rest (even God had to rest). Right To Work laws could lower family income by over $5K/yr FORCING workers to accept no rest this week, then no rest next week, then no rest the week after that, then no rest... -- and that just to keep from drowning in debt.
Walker would have a case to make to GOP voters if these policies yielded higher job growth. They haven't. Bloomberg economic analyst Christopher Flavelle wrote recently that as measured by improvement in "the living standards of the people he represents... Walker's tenure falls somewhere between lackluster and a failure." ~ Michael Hiltzik
Could Wisconsin's Scott Walker now abolish the weekend?
Michael Hiltzik
March 20, 2015
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, a leading aspirant for the Republican nomination for president, made his state the 25th "right-to-work" state in the nation on March 9 when he signed a measure passed by the Republican-controlled legislature.
He may soon get another crack at a worker-unfriendly law: Legislators have introduced a bill to abolish employees' legal right to at least one day off per week.
State law currently allows factory or retail employees to work seven days or more in a row for a limited period, but they and their employer have to jointly petition the Department of Workforce Development for a waiver. These petitions apparently number a couple of hundred a year. The new proposal would allow workers to "voluntarily choose" to work without a day of rest. The state agency wouldn't have a say.
It can't be a secret what "voluntarily" really means in this context. As Marquette University law professor Paul Secunda told the Nation, the measure "completely ignores the power dynamic in the workplace, where workers often have a proverbial gun to the head." Workers will know that if the boss demands it, they'll be volunteering or else.
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Since Walker took office, Wisconsin's economic performance has ranked a dismal 35th in Bloomberg's economic index of states. Private sector job growth lags behind such neighboring states as Minnesota and Michigan -- not to mention California, where labor and fiscal policies are at the opposite pole from Walker's. Bloomberg's index of share values for Wisconsin-based public companies shows they lag well behind Iowa, Minnesota and the median state. (See accompanying graphics package for details.)
This week brought another dose of bad news for Walker: his state fell to 38th in the nation in job growth for the year ended Sept. 30, 2014, at 1.16%, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. (For comparison, California ranked seventh, at 3.1%.)
Wisconsin's budget situation is dire, with state tax revenue increasing at a fraction of the rate of the median state--4% vs. 20%--in 2011-14. In February, the state announced it would delay a scheduled $108-million principal payment on its debt. Under Walker, Wisconsinites seem to be facing a double-whammy--lousy performance at the state level, and a continuing assault on their household income.
Myths And Facts About "Right-To-Work" Laws
Are workers in states without right-to-work laws forced to join unions?
Do right-to-work laws lead to higher wages and benefits?
Will right-to-work laws lead to lower unemployment in states that adopt them?
Do right-to-work laws protect workers from supporting political activities they disagree with?
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GLORIOUS BOUT OF PROPAGANDA KOMRADE!!!
In reality, this does not ban unions, what it does is makes unions explain their benefits, and forces them to work for their right to represent people collectively, not assume a stream of income from everyone that wants to work somewhere.
Why shouldn't someone have the right to work for less than a counterpart elsewhere? If a business moves to a non union thug state then the formerly well paid union thug is making no dollars and the new hire is raking in decent money..
Right To Work...
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Studies Show Right-To-Work States Have Lower Wages And Benefits
Baker: It "Is Not True" That "In The Absence Of Right-To-Work Laws Workers Can Be Forced To Join A Union." In a February post for the Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR), economist Dean Baker wrote:
"Right to work" is a great name from the standpoint of proponents, just like the term "death tax" is effective for opponents of the estate tax, but it has nothing to do with the issue at hand. It is widely believed that in the absence of right-to-work laws workers can be forced to join a union. This is not true. Workers at any workplace always have the option as to whether or not to join a union. [CEPR, 2/28/11]
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...in addition to state-level economic conditions and cost-of-living differences across states. We find the following:
• Wages in right-to-work states are 3.2% lower than those in non-RTW states, after controlling for a full complement of individual demographic and socioeconomic variables as well as state macroeconomic indicators. Using the average wage in non-RTW states as the base ($22.11), the average full-time, full-year worker in an RTW state makes about $1,500 less annually than a similar worker in a non-RTW state.
• The rate of employer-sponsored health insurance (ESI) is 2.6 percentage points lower in RTW states compared with non-RTW states, after controlling for individual, job, and state-level characteristics. If workers in non-RTW states were to receive ESI at this lower rate, 2 million fewer workers nationally would be covered.
• The rate of employer-sponsored pensions is 4.8 percentage points lower in RTW states, using the full complement of control variables in our regression model. If workers in non-RTW states were to receive pensions at this lower rate, 3.8 million fewer workers nationally would have pensions. [EPI, 2/17/11]
Usually they pay what they think they need to to start out a decent prospect for the job and increase the pay to keep you there if they don't let you go. Some may negotiate after proving their worth but good luck starting out that way.Actually, individuals need to decide it for themselves. Wages are not handed out based on your value. They are offered, based on what a company thinks you will settle for, and are negotiated, based on what you can convince the company you might be able to get from somewhere else.
They believe government and businesses are created to provide well paying incomes to the masses.What I like about the right to work states is the cream rises to the top and their pay reflects that. The ignorant and lazy get paid less just as it should be.
I never could understand the liberal disdain for people who get raises based on performance.
Usually they pay what they think they need to to start out a decent prospect for the job and increase the pay to keep you there if they don't let you go. Some may negotiate after proving their worth but good luck starting out that way.Actually, individuals need to decide it for themselves. Wages are not handed out based on your value. They are offered, based on what a company thinks you will settle for, and are negotiated, based on what you can convince the company you might be able to get from somewhere else.
Bullshit. Most companies offer job X for X amount of salary, especially low paying jobs. You'll be asked to take your negotiations down the road.No, this false in that you are basically saying compensation generally don't take place when an offer is made and that companies usually won't negotiate before a hiring is complete. Companies will and do negotiate job offers. The failure to negotiate a job offer is one of a candidate's biggest blunders. Even low level jobs are open for negotiation. Some 85% of hiring managers expect a candidate to negotiate for a job, and having a job offer yanked simply because a candidate attempts to negotiate is virtually unheard of. Furthermore, hiring managers end up having more respect for a candidate who negotiates properly and effectively. On average, candidates who negotiate a job offer end up making 10% more on their initial compensation than those who do not negotiate.Usually they pay what they think they need to to start out a decent prospect for the job and increase the pay to keep you there if they don't let you go. Some may negotiate after proving their worth but good luck starting out that way.Actually, individuals need to decide it for themselves. Wages are not handed out based on your value. They are offered, based on what a company thinks you will settle for, and are negotiated, based on what you can convince the company you might be able to get from somewhere else.
Bullshit. Most companies offer job X for X amount of salary, especially low paying jobs. You'll be asked to take your negotiations down the road.No, this false in that you are basically saying compensation generally don't take place when an offer is made and that companies usually won't negotiate before a hiring is complete. Companies will and do negotiate job offers. The failure to negotiate a job offer is one of a candidate's biggest blunders. Even low level jobs are open for negotiation. Some 85% of hiring managers expect a candidate to negotiate for a job, and having a job offer yanked simply because a candidate attempts to negotiate is virtually unheard of. Furthermore, hiring managers end up having more respect for a candidate who negotiates properly and effectively. On average, candidates who negotiate a job offer end up making 10% more on their initial compensation than those who do not negotiate.Usually they pay what they think they need to to start out a decent prospect for the job and increase the pay to keep you there if they don't let you go. Some may negotiate after proving their worth but good luck starting out that way.Actually, individuals need to decide it for themselves. Wages are not handed out based on your value. They are offered, based on what a company thinks you will settle for, and are negotiated, based on what you can convince the company you might be able to get from somewhere else.
I live better on $30,000 a year in the South than one could live on $90,000 in NYC.And much lower costs of living
Anyone who disagrees with the union mentality hates America? Good luck with that, wacko.The market will decide what a fair wage is, not some gangster in a pin striped suit who uses threats and coercion and other strong arm tactics to extort money from businesses, forcing prices higher for the consumer. Most union employees don't deserve half of what they make."Union" is nothing more than a code word for extortion. What they do is illegal and they should be banned.
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.
You didn't have to tell us you hate Americans, we already knew.
It makes perfect sense-----perfect sense for the Corpratacracy to take away workers protection to get a day of rest (even God had to rest). Right To Work laws could lower family income by over $5K/yr FORCING workers to accept no rest this week, then no rest next week, then no rest the week after that, then no rest... -- and that just to keep from drowning in debt.
Walker would have a case to make to GOP voters if these policies yielded higher job growth. They haven't. Bloomberg economic analyst Christopher Flavelle wrote recently that as measured by improvement in "the living standards of the people he represents... Walker's tenure falls somewhere between lackluster and a failure." ~ Michael Hiltzik
Could Wisconsin's Scott Walker now abolish the weekend?
Michael Hiltzik
March 20, 2015
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, a leading aspirant for the Republican nomination for president, made his state the 25th "right-to-work" state in the nation on March 9 when he signed a measure passed by the Republican-controlled legislature.
He may soon get another crack at a worker-unfriendly law: Legislators have introduced a bill to abolish employees' legal right to at least one day off per week.
State law currently allows factory or retail employees to work seven days or more in a row for a limited period, but they and their employer have to jointly petition the Department of Workforce Development for a waiver. These petitions apparently number a couple of hundred a year. The new proposal would allow workers to "voluntarily choose" to work without a day of rest. The state agency wouldn't have a say.
It can't be a secret what "voluntarily" really means in this context. As Marquette University law professor Paul Secunda told the Nation, the measure "completely ignores the power dynamic in the workplace, where workers often have a proverbial gun to the head." Workers will know that if the boss demands it, they'll be volunteering or else.
<snip>
Since Walker took office, Wisconsin's economic performance has ranked a dismal 35th in Bloomberg's economic index of states. Private sector job growth lags behind such neighboring states as Minnesota and Michigan -- not to mention California, where labor and fiscal policies are at the opposite pole from Walker's. Bloomberg's index of share values for Wisconsin-based public companies shows they lag well behind Iowa, Minnesota and the median state. (See accompanying graphics package for details.)
This week brought another dose of bad news for Walker: his state fell to 38th in the nation in job growth for the year ended Sept. 30, 2014, at 1.16%, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. (For comparison, California ranked seventh, at 3.1%.)
Wisconsin's budget situation is dire, with state tax revenue increasing at a fraction of the rate of the median state--4% vs. 20%--in 2011-14. In February, the state announced it would delay a scheduled $108-million principal payment on its debt. Under Walker, Wisconsinites seem to be facing a double-whammy--lousy performance at the state level, and a continuing assault on their household income.
Myths And Facts About "Right-To-Work" Laws
Are workers in states without right-to-work laws forced to join unions?
Do right-to-work laws lead to higher wages and benefits?
Will right-to-work laws lead to lower unemployment in states that adopt them?
Do right-to-work laws protect workers from supporting political activities they disagree with?
.
I live better on $30,000 a year in the South than one could live on $90,000 in NYC.And much lower costs of living
And, don't have to live with hordes of rats.
One again, right-wingers have no clue about labor unions. They would rather believe what their media masters tell them rather than simply accept any fact that goes contrary to their ignorant beliefs. How's this chart for stark reality, right-wing loons? You're cutting the throat of American workers, and your own as well. I guess that's considered patriotic? You're all pathetic traitors to your fellow Americans.
The market will decide what a fair wage is, not some gangster in a pin striped suit who uses threats and coercion and other strong arm tactics to extort money from businesses, forcing prices higher for the consumer. Most union employees don't deserve half of what they make."Union" is nothing more than a code word for extortion. What they do is illegal and they should be banned.
.
.
You didn't have to tell us you hate Americans, we already knew.
It makes perfect sense-----perfect sense for the Corpratacracy to take away workers protection to get a day of rest (even God had to rest). Right To Work laws could lower family income by over $5K/yr FORCING workers to accept no rest this week, then no rest next week, then no rest the week after that, then no rest... -- and that just to keep from drowning in debt.
Walker would have a case to make to GOP voters if these policies yielded higher job growth. They haven't. Bloomberg economic analyst Christopher Flavelle wrote recently that as measured by improvement in "the living standards of the people he represents... Walker's tenure falls somewhere between lackluster and a failure." ~ Michael Hiltzik
Could Wisconsin's Scott Walker now abolish the weekend?
Michael Hiltzik
March 20, 2015
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, a leading aspirant for the Republican nomination for president, made his state the 25th "right-to-work" state in the nation on March 9 when he signed a measure passed by the Republican-controlled legislature.
He may soon get another crack at a worker-unfriendly law: Legislators have introduced a bill to abolish employees' legal right to at least one day off per week.
State law currently allows factory or retail employees to work seven days or more in a row for a limited period, but they and their employer have to jointly petition the Department of Workforce Development for a waiver. These petitions apparently number a couple of hundred a year. The new proposal would allow workers to "voluntarily choose" to work without a day of rest. The state agency wouldn't have a say.
It can't be a secret what "voluntarily" really means in this context. As Marquette University law professor Paul Secunda told the Nation, the measure "completely ignores the power dynamic in the workplace, where workers often have a proverbial gun to the head." Workers will know that if the boss demands it, they'll be volunteering or else.
<snip>
Since Walker took office, Wisconsin's economic performance has ranked a dismal 35th in Bloomberg's economic index of states. Private sector job growth lags behind such neighboring states as Minnesota and Michigan -- not to mention California, where labor and fiscal policies are at the opposite pole from Walker's. Bloomberg's index of share values for Wisconsin-based public companies shows they lag well behind Iowa, Minnesota and the median state. (See accompanying graphics package for details.)
This week brought another dose of bad news for Walker: his state fell to 38th in the nation in job growth for the year ended Sept. 30, 2014, at 1.16%, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. (For comparison, California ranked seventh, at 3.1%.)
Wisconsin's budget situation is dire, with state tax revenue increasing at a fraction of the rate of the median state--4% vs. 20%--in 2011-14. In February, the state announced it would delay a scheduled $108-million principal payment on its debt. Under Walker, Wisconsinites seem to be facing a double-whammy--lousy performance at the state level, and a continuing assault on their household income.
Myths And Facts About "Right-To-Work" Laws
Are workers in states without right-to-work laws forced to join unions?
Do right-to-work laws lead to higher wages and benefits?
Will right-to-work laws lead to lower unemployment in states that adopt them?
Do right-to-work laws protect workers from supporting political activities they disagree with?
.
this is coming from a poster who don't have a pot to Piss in who don't know shit about the South, the two posters above you and I know, we left your hell North for great jobs, great scenery, great homes at a fraction of a cost of your over Taxed over priced hell holesOne again, right-wingers have no clue about labor unions. They would rather believe what their media masters tell them rather than simply accept any fact that goes contrary to their ignorant beliefs. How's this chart for stark reality, right-wing loons? You're cutting the throat of American workers, and your own as well. I guess that's considered patriotic? You're all pathetic traitors to your fellow Americans.
As the 1% reap their rewards, and the stock market goes up, nobody ever posts the decline in the median wage under Obama.One again, right-wingers have no clue about labor unions. They would rather believe what their media masters tell them rather than simply accept any fact that goes contrary to their ignorant beliefs. How's this chart for stark reality, right-wing loons? You're cutting the throat of American workers, and your own as well. I guess that's considered patriotic? You're all pathetic traitors to your fellow Americans.
I'd love to see a graph showing where the middle class stands since obammy took office.
The market will decide what a fair wage is, not some gangster in a pin striped suit who uses threats and coercion and other strong arm tactics to extort money from businesses, forcing prices higher for the consumer. Most union employees don't deserve half of what they make."Union" is nothing more than a code word for extortion. What they do is illegal and they should be banned.
.
.
You didn't have to tell us you hate Americans, we already knew.
It makes perfect sense-----perfect sense for the Corpratacracy to take away workers protection to get a day of rest (even God had to rest). Right To Work laws could lower family income by over $5K/yr FORCING workers to accept no rest this week, then no rest next week, then no rest the week after that, then no rest... -- and that just to keep from drowning in debt.
Walker would have a case to make to GOP voters if these policies yielded higher job growth. They haven't. Bloomberg economic analyst Christopher Flavelle wrote recently that as measured by improvement in "the living standards of the people he represents... Walker's tenure falls somewhere between lackluster and a failure." ~ Michael Hiltzik
Could Wisconsin's Scott Walker now abolish the weekend?
Michael Hiltzik
March 20, 2015
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, a leading aspirant for the Republican nomination for president, made his state the 25th "right-to-work" state in the nation on March 9 when he signed a measure passed by the Republican-controlled legislature.
He may soon get another crack at a worker-unfriendly law: Legislators have introduced a bill to abolish employees' legal right to at least one day off per week.
State law currently allows factory or retail employees to work seven days or more in a row for a limited period, but they and their employer have to jointly petition the Department of Workforce Development for a waiver. These petitions apparently number a couple of hundred a year. The new proposal would allow workers to "voluntarily choose" to work without a day of rest. The state agency wouldn't have a say.
It can't be a secret what "voluntarily" really means in this context. As Marquette University law professor Paul Secunda told the Nation, the measure "completely ignores the power dynamic in the workplace, where workers often have a proverbial gun to the head." Workers will know that if the boss demands it, they'll be volunteering or else.
<snip>
Since Walker took office, Wisconsin's economic performance has ranked a dismal 35th in Bloomberg's economic index of states. Private sector job growth lags behind such neighboring states as Minnesota and Michigan -- not to mention California, where labor and fiscal policies are at the opposite pole from Walker's. Bloomberg's index of share values for Wisconsin-based public companies shows they lag well behind Iowa, Minnesota and the median state. (See accompanying graphics package for details.)
This week brought another dose of bad news for Walker: his state fell to 38th in the nation in job growth for the year ended Sept. 30, 2014, at 1.16%, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. (For comparison, California ranked seventh, at 3.1%.)
Wisconsin's budget situation is dire, with state tax revenue increasing at a fraction of the rate of the median state--4% vs. 20%--in 2011-14. In February, the state announced it would delay a scheduled $108-million principal payment on its debt. Under Walker, Wisconsinites seem to be facing a double-whammy--lousy performance at the state level, and a continuing assault on their household income.
Myths And Facts About "Right-To-Work" Laws
Are workers in states without right-to-work laws forced to join unions?
Do right-to-work laws lead to higher wages and benefits?
Will right-to-work laws lead to lower unemployment in states that adopt them?
Do right-to-work laws protect workers from supporting political activities they disagree with?
.
this is coming from a poster who don't have a pot to Piss in who don't know shit about the South, the two posters above you and I know, we left your hell North for great jobs, great scenery, great homes at a fraction of a cost of your over Taxed over priced hell holesOne again, right-wingers have no clue about labor unions. They would rather believe what their media masters tell them rather than simply accept any fact that goes contrary to their ignorant beliefs. How's this chart for stark reality, right-wing loons? You're cutting the throat of American workers, and your own as well. I guess that's considered patriotic? You're all pathetic traitors to your fellow Americans.
