Retirement in a Nursing Home???

[PoliticalChic]

Happy sailing, PC!

You have room for me on your ship????

How are you at cleaning heads?

Wadda ya' think I've been doing here, for 7 years????

That was funny but sadly you really really suck at it.

Let's just say you're not an apt student.

 

[PoliticalChic]

On a cruise - Who changes her diapers, manually feeds her bite by bite, and carts her around...changes her clothing, bathes her....puts her to bed, gets her out of bed.......... when she can no longer do so on her own?

We aren't really talking about nursing home type care.

The example used was cost of nursing home vs. Cost of cruise.

Surely there's a surcharge for cleaning someones shitty underpants that's not factored in here.

Like I said,we aren't really talking about nursing home care.
This is more like retirement living.
My mom is about ready for assisted living and the average cost in Texas is around 3500 a month.
When you start talking total care that price damn near doubles making it slightly over 200 a day.
I think this story has some errors in it.

Sydney, Australia to Hong Kong, China....18 days.....$70 a day.
Cruise Search Results Princess Cruises

 

[PoliticalChic]

NLT @ 75

Cheers!

 

[PoliticalChic]

On a cruise - Who changes her diapers, manually feeds her bite by bite, and carts her around...changes her clothing, bathes her....puts her to bed, gets her out of bed.......... when she can no longer do so on her own?

7. "As to whether living out one's golden years aboard a cruise ship is a viable alternative to spending them in a retirement home, a geriatrician at Northwestern University says such a plan is a feasible and cost-effective alternative to assisted-living facilities.


Dr. LeeLindquist, an instructor at Northwestern's Feinberg School of Medicine, compared the costs (over a20-yearlife expectancy) of moving to an assisted-living facility, a nursing home and a cruise ship, including the expense of treating acute illnesses, Medicare reimbursement and other factors. She determined that the net cost of cruise-ship living was only about $2,000 more than the alternatives ($230,000 versus $228,000) and offered a higher quality of service.

"Cruise ships offer such a range of amenities — such as three meals a day, often with escorts to meals if needed, room service, entertainment, accessible halls and cabins, housekeeping and laundry services and physicians on board — that they could actually be considered a floating assisted-living facility," says Lindquist."
snopes.com Retirement Living on Cruise Ships

 

[G.T.]

On a cruise - Who changes her diapers, manually feeds her bite by bite, and carts her around...changes her clothing, bathes her....puts her to bed, gets her out of bed.......... when she can no longer do so on her own?

7. "As to whether living out one's golden years aboard a cruise ship is a viable alternative to spending them in a retirement home, a geriatrician at Northwestern University says such a plan is a feasible and cost-effective alternative to assisted-living facilities.


Dr. LeeLindquist, an instructor at Northwestern's Feinberg School of Medicine, compared the costs (over a20-yearlife expectancy) of moving to an assisted-living facility, a nursing home and a cruise ship, including the expense of treating acute illnesses, Medicare reimbursement and other factors. She determined that the net cost of cruise-ship living was only about $2,000 more than the alternatives ($230,000 versus $228,000) and offered a higher quality of service.

"Cruise ships offer such a range of amenities — such as three meals a day, often with escorts to meals if needed, room service, entertainment, accessible halls and cabins, housekeeping and laundry services and physicians on board — that they could actually be considered a floating assisted-living facility," says Lindquist."
snopes.com Retirement Living on Cruise Ships

Of course your post doesnt answer the question of those needing physical assistance.

 

[PoliticalChic]

On a cruise - Who changes her diapers, manually feeds her bite by bite, and carts her around...changes her clothing, bathes her....puts her to bed, gets her out of bed.......... when she can no longer do so on her own?

7. "As to whether living out one's golden years aboard a cruise ship is a viable alternative to spending them in a retirement home, a geriatrician at Northwestern University says such a plan is a feasible and cost-effective alternative to assisted-living facilities.


Dr. LeeLindquist, an instructor at Northwestern's Feinberg School of Medicine, compared the costs (over a20-yearlife expectancy) of moving to an assisted-living facility, a nursing home and a cruise ship, including the expense of treating acute illnesses, Medicare reimbursement and other factors. She determined that the net cost of cruise-ship living was only about $2,000 more than the alternatives ($230,000 versus $228,000) and offered a higher quality of service.

"Cruise ships offer such a range of amenities — such as three meals a day, often with escorts to meals if needed, room service, entertainment, accessible halls and cabins, housekeeping and laundry services and physicians on board — that they could actually be considered a floating assisted-living facility," says Lindquist."
snopes.com Retirement Living on Cruise Ships

Of course your post doesnt answer the question of those needing physical assistance.

Senior citizens comprise 12% of the population...but some 40% of hospital admissions.

At first this might suggest that they could not avail themselves of the cruise ship retirements....

...but....while younger folks average 4 days per hospital admission, the elderly don't stay an order of magnitude longer....it's 5.7 days.
http://www.hcup-us.ahrq.gov/reports/statbriefs/sb6.pdf


Point being, if illness of seniors is treated with pharmaceuticals....it really has no affect on living on a cruise ship.


The essence of the thread is that it is probably economically feasible.


If the individual is on one's deathbed, they probably wouldn't opt for the cruise ship....unless they had the mental ability of a gerbil.

Hmmm.....

 

[PoliticalChic]

"..... the question of those needing physical assistance."

Y'mean...should they take on a cruise ship retirement?

Someone actually asking that question?????
Duh.....

OK>....answer:

8. "... the plan would work best for seniors who need a minimal amount of care. "Seniors who enjoy travel, have good or excellent cognitive function but require some assistance with activities of daily living are the ideal candidates for cruise-ship care. Just as with assisted living, if residents became acutely ill or got to the point that they needed a higher level of care, they would have to leave."



[Snopes goes on to consider other aspects in the calculation:]

However, ... cost is but one of the elements to the choice of where to reside after retirement. Golden agers who decide to make their permanent homes on cruise ships sacrifice proximity to family and friends; their nearest and dearest are no longer just a short car ride away. Those devoted to their children and grandchildren might well deem that too high a price to pay, no matter what the spreadsheet says about the relative financial costs.

Likewise, those who lack progeny but who are involved in their communities or who are part of a number of strong friendships may not want to opt for the vagabond life, because it would mean abandoning that which gives them joy.



Also, life on a cruise ship means one acquaintance after another, but no permanent ongoing connections of any depth. Fellow passengers disembark to return to their regular lives at the termination of their one- or two-week holidays, which means friendships struck up with them land in the "We'll keep in touch" bin very quickly. As for staff, while serial cruisers can strike up deeply affable relationships with some of the line's employees, these rapports are inherently limited by their very nature: no matter how close such associations appear to be, ships' employees are required to be deferential to paying passengers, so the friendship-critical element of honesty can never be part of such dealings."
snopes.com Retirement Living on Cruise Ships


Does one get mail on a cruise ship?

Internet?

Cell phone access?

Visits when the ship is in dock?

Could be very much like life anywhere else.

 

[Ravi]

I don't get the point of this thread.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I don't get the point of this thread.

Not the first time that has been the case.

See what I mean about you being less than an apt student?