Funny, when I say someone lied, I prove it. I explain the lie and add links to back up my claim.
When Right wingers call me a liar, they stop right there. They are such idiots, they believe simply by calling a name they've "proved it" and walk away with a fist pump and a quick "nailed it". And when I ask them to explain the lie, they say things like "everyone knows" and "no one likes you". And then I throw my head back and laugh long and hard.
OK rdean
can you explain how the liberal Democrats can CLAIM to be prochoice
and against govt intrusion in private decisions regarding abortion
and yet be okay with federal regulations and penalties on health care choice?
The most I get from liberals is justifications like
a. this is just a temporary bill, legislation in progress before it is reformed, to move toward la dee da....
but I don't think they allow temporary bills that are prolife to move toward more govt intrusion
so why the double standard, can you explain this
b. just because the federal govt is requiring citizens to buy insurance
"doesn't mean they are regulating the choices"
the point is to move toward a singlepayer system where the funding goes through govt
but the choices are private and not interfered with
Again, nobody I know on either the prochoice or prolife side
wants taxpayer money funneled to the other group's agenda of choices.
This idea that you can funnel money through federal govt, and NOT have federal regulations
on it seems unrealistic and in denial that public monies must respect all people or else don't go through
federal govt if you can't all agree on the policies! It is contradictory to want things to be public
and then PROTEST when the prolife or other citizens want to be represented by the policy.
c. people are going to buy insurance anyway. taxpayers have to pay for public hospitals anyway, so this is helping by requiring insurance.
My argument is mandating Christian spiritual healing would also cut costs of crime and disease. And people suffering from addictions end up having to go through that ANYWAY.
So "requiring" that would SAVE LIVES, health and taxpayer's money.
But it is not the role of govt to mandate spiritual healing, which is a personal choice,
and likewise NOT govt's place to dictate the BELIEF that "health care is a right through govt"
If the issue were mainly saving money, then anyone could start mandating and dictating
policies that save money. But it negates liberty and choice that people cannot be deprived
of unless they've committed a crime and were found guilty by due process.
Can you please explain how a b and c are not contradictory
when these same arguments are made for things the Left disagrees with?
Somehow the Left "imagines" that their policy is so inclusive that it automatically includes everything
that other people want anyway!
Really? Then why are people protesting their liberties and choices were taken away?
rdean if you can PLEASE PLEASE explain this to me,
I would GREATLY appreciate it. I haven't found a single liberal who could.
And I consider myself a progressive among the liberal Democrats I work with as a registered Democrat.
This seems to be complete denial and misunderstanding of what the conservatives are objecting to.
They REALLY believe the conservatives are "complaining for the sake of objecting to liberal politics"
and don't think the objections are real. They even cite things they think "prove" that the "Conservatives support insurance mandates on a FEDERAL level" when this has never passed before DUE TO Objections!
So PLEASE explain this to me.
If you are so good at it, please!