Republicans slam Sen. Reid over Romney tax claim

[hjmick]

The politician's mission statement:

The end justifies the means.

 

[Greenbeard]

If Romney doesn't want to answer the question of why he won't release his returns in every interview leading up to the election....he had better do it sooner rather than later

That's the problem. Romney is the embodiment of all that's perverted and wrong with the tax code (and with his own tax policy). Releasing those returns, a fairly unremarkable act for most other candidates, would likely be the nail in the coffin of his campaign.

Which is why he avoided releasing them during the primaries (when he was able to carpet bomb his opponents into submission via negative ads) and hoped he could coast through the general the same way. He's between a rock and a hard place but it's certain at this point that he recognizes that releasing them is much more damaging than looking secretive, duplicitous, and dishonest.

He hopes he can parade around for three more months promising to raise taxes on the middle class without revealing his own tax returns. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

 

[Darkwind]

Nice deflection, but totally irrelevant to whether Romney paid taxes or not

If you want to prove Reid lied........provide some returns

Obama has done it

Doesn't work that way..

Romney is innocent until proof is provide otherwise. It is codified in our highest laws.

Provide the accuser to be questioned, or pay the price of bearing false witness.

You are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law

In the court of public opinion it looks like Romney has something to hide.

In the court of public opinion, the stupid fall for any charge and the sheep willingly do the bidding of the dishonest.

You are innocent until proven guilty in ANY forum, including the one of Public Opinion.

Produce the accuser, or suffer a law suit. At that point, he WILL be required to provide proof, or pay the price of false witness.

 

[Shelzin]

When are you going to step up and prove you didn't have sex with your mom ?

You are calling Reid a dirty liar...

One way to prove it.

I get the feeling the GOP is trying to sabotage Governor Romney sometimes.

It does feel like they are trying to throw the election sometimes doesn't it?

It's like someone else is running the show and they have to put up a front in politics to keep the voters from figuring it out. But they've already chosen who's won.

I don't know... It's all seems a little loopy though.

 

[Darkwind]

If Romney doesn't want to answer the question of why he won't release his returns in every interview leading up to the election....he had better do it sooner rather than later

That's the problem. Romney is the embodiment of all that's perverted and wrong with the tax code (and with his own tax policy). Releasing those returns, a fairly unremarkable act for most other candidates, would likely be the nail in the coffin of his campaign.

Which is why he avoided releasing them during the primaries (when he was able to carpet bomb his opponents into submission via negative ads) and hoped he could coast the general the same way. He's between a rock and a hard place but it's certain at this point that he recognizes that releasing them is much more damaging than looking secretive, duplicitous, and dishonest.

He hopes he can parade around for three more months promising to raise taxes on the middle class without revealing his own tax returns. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.

Unremarkable act?

Have you made calls for Obama to release every single tax return he has ever filed?

Until then, your argument is fallacious.

The law is the law. Romney should not bow down to morons calling for more; because the people not inclined to vote for him will not no matter how many tax returns he releases, those who understand it is a witch hunt will vote based on other issues, and those who simply want to save America by removing Obama from office will vote for him, regardless.

In either case, the left leaning of this country are going to lose this issue, and the election.

When Harry 'pass the cheddar" Reid is finally removed from office, I hope he gets the rest of his life behind bars.

 

[tererun]

Nope there are several, but here's one
Costs, conflicts arise in Reid push for green power - Opinion - ReviewJournal.com

There's another factor, however, one more personal to Reid: His son, Rory Reid, is one of the attorneys for the ENN Mojave Energy project.

Well now....I think we may need to see both the Reid's tax returns, we may have some actual fraud.....and when Romney is elected....guess who's going to giving an anal exam....I cant wait, maybe we'll finally get the dirtbag, Reid in jail......keep on going Reid, you have more skeletons than John Wayne Gacy

Nice deflection, but totally irrelevant to whether Romney paid taxes or not

If you want to prove Reid lied........provide some returns

Obama has done it

Doesn't work that way..

Romney is innocent until proof is provide otherwise. It is codified in our highest laws.

Provide the accuser to be questioned, or pay the price of bearing false witness.

Actually, if you are going to accuse Reid of making a false statement the first step is to prove he made a false statement. You see, mittens would not be on trial, it would be reid who is being accused in a court for making false statements.

After they prove that then they need to prove that Reid did not know those claims were false, to which i am sure they can find a fall guy to come forward and take the blame for supposedly lying to reid. In the end you would never be able to prove reid knowingly gave a false statement. That is, of course, if they were to first prove that Mittens paid his taxes by releasing the tax returns. It will never get that far because mittens will not release them because he knows it will be a death blow to his campaign.

One has to also note that bullshit claims to the public or to the senate when not under oath are completely free of charges. We all know mittens made claims he was not at Bain when his signature clearly shows he is managing director at the times he made those claims. Had those signatures been a lie he would face charges of fraud, but since he did not lie to the SEC so it is not fraud or illegal. Of course, it is a lie to the american public, but mittens was never sworn to tell the truth.

 

[Amazed]

So what? What makes you entitled. It certainly isnt law.

The reasons are clear, you just cant admit it.

I'm assuming the most innocuous reason and yes, it is clear: Romney is embarrassed by his low tax burden relative to that of the middle class. It's damning, both for his campaign and for his proposed tax policy (i.e. lower taxes for the wealthy, made deficit neutral by increases on the middle class).

That's reason enough to hide them. However, as he continues to stonewall one can't help but wonder if there's something even more damning in them.

Only you kooks....nobody else....and the polls aren't moving...try again...idiot.

 

[bripat9643]

And the story gets more publicity....I'm pretty sure that the GOP is trying to sabotage Governor Romney by whooping it up a bit.

IF they didn't respond to it morons like you would be claiming there must be something to it. If they do respond to it they are "calling more attention to it."

You and Harry are just a couple of despicable lying sleaze bags. You don't have an honorable bone in your entire body.

 

[Greenbeard]

The law is the law. Romney should not bow down to morons calling for more; because the people not inclined to vote for him will not no matter how many tax returns he releases, those who understand it is a witch hunt will vote based on other issues, and those who simply want to save America by removing Obama from office will vote for him, regardless.

Ah, but the revelation of Romney's tax returns is the best way to "save America" by torpedoing his sham of a campaign and further discrediting his egregious tax proposals.

 

[buckeye45_73]

By the way, my understanding is, had Reid made the comments in a public setting he could be liable of defamation, but since he made the comments on the Senate floor he is immune from any liability.
Is this true ?

You cannot be convicted of defamation without proving such defamation occurred,

In order to do that Romney would have to release his taxes.

Damn!

Incorrect. The accuser must provide proof of their remarks. Romney is the victim.

All of this can be cleared up if Reid releases the name of the source.

Liberals keep waking up thinking they live in their paradise of Cuba where the accused has to prove himself innocent....well only the republicans have to do that.

 

[Greenbeard]

Only you kooks....nobody else....and the polls aren't moving...try again...idiot.

The good news is that they don't need to move.

 

[Darkwind]

Nice deflection, but totally irrelevant to whether Romney paid taxes or not

If you want to prove Reid lied........provide some returns

Obama has done it

Doesn't work that way..

Romney is innocent until proof is provide otherwise. It is codified in our highest laws.

Provide the accuser to be questioned, or pay the price of bearing false witness.

Actually, if you are going to accuse Reid of making a false statement the first step is to prove he made a false statement. You see, mittens would not be on trial, it would be reid who is being accused in a court for making false statements.

After they prove that then they need to prove that Reid did not know those claims were false, to which i am sure they can find a fall guy to come forward and take the blame for supposedly lying to reid. In the end you would never be able to prove reid knowingly gave a false statement. That is, of course, if they were to first prove that Mittens paid his taxes by releasing the tax returns. It will never get that far because mittens will not release them because he knows it will be a death blow to his campaign.

One has to also note that bullshit claims to the public or to the senate when not under oath are completely free of charges. We all know mittens made claims he was not at Bain when his signature clearly shows he is managing director at the times he made those claims. Had those signatures been a lie he would face charges of fraud, but since he did not lie to the SEC so it is not fraud or illegal. Of course, it is a lie to the american public, but mittens was never sworn to tell the truth.

That is incorrect.

The accuser must provide reasonable proof to begin an investigation.

The claim is utter bullshit, done for political reasons.

Provide the proof or face a court hearing.

 

[rightwinger]

How does Romney sell his plan to further reduce taxes on the rich when he won't release his own returns?

 

[Darkwind]

The law is the law. Romney should not bow down to morons calling for more; because the people not inclined to vote for him will not no matter how many tax returns he releases, those who understand it is a witch hunt will vote based on other issues, and those who simply want to save America by removing Obama from office will vote for him, regardless.

Ah, but the revelation of Romney's tax returns is the best way to "save America" by torpedoing his sham of a campaign and further discrediting his egregious tax proposals.

Romney's tax returns have no bearing on his policy or campaign.

It is a witch hunt, admit it.

 

[Truthmatters]

so why did you insist Obama release his?

 

[Truthmatters]

Robmoney has money overseas.


He may care more about where his money is than this country

 

[bripat9643]

By the way, my understanding is, had Reid made the comments in a public setting he could be liable of defamation, but since he made the comments on the Senate floor he is immune from any liability.
Is this true ?

You cannot be convicted of defamation without proving such defamation occurred,

In order to do that Romney would have to release his taxes.

Damn!

Nope, Harry has to prove that someone actually told him what he claims. If Reid claim someone told him Romney was a child molester, Romney wouldn't have to prove he wasn't. Without a shred of evidence that he was, Romney would win his case.

 

[Darkwind]

How does Romney sell his plan to further reduce taxes on the rich when he won't release his own returns?

He doesn't have too.

A first year business student can ascertain that his tax return is better than the one we labor under right now.

How do we know that Obama can run a better system? Oh, we already know he can't.


When you demand that Obama release an equal amount of returns to those you demand from Romney, then you have some credibility. Until then...


not too much.

 

[Darkwind]

By the way, my understanding is, had Reid made the comments in a public setting he could be liable of defamation, but since he made the comments on the Senate floor he is immune from any liability.
Is this true ?

You cannot be convicted of defamation without proving such defamation occurred,

In order to do that Romney would have to release his taxes.

Damn!

Nope, Harry has to prove that someone actually told him what he claims. If Reid claim someone told him Romney was a child molester, Romney wouldn't have to prove he wasn't. Without a shred of evidence that he was, Romney would win his case.

Exactly. Its like someone asking Obama when he stopped abusing his daughters.

 

[bripat9643]

When are they going to step up and prove that Reid s a dirty liar?

All they got to do is release Romneys returns

Reid already proved that 1000 times over.