Republicans are doing their jobs, are democrats?

1. Medicare will be insolvent in 2017 w/o reform.
2. SS will be insolvent in 2037 w/o reform.

None of the DC whores want to actually do anything because the other party would crucify them. This need to be resolved by a bi-partisan commission, like the Debt Commission.

Raise the retirement age; it's quite simple. Very few like this idea because on the far right, they just want to dismantle anything that the government runs, even if it's to their own detriment. On the left, nobody wants to raise the retirement age because they see it as being unfair to lower income earners who work in more physical jobs.

The fact is that both SS and Medicare are very good programs. However, they were not meant to pay people for nearly 15 years on average. Look at it this way, if all of a sudden life expectancy jumps to 90 years, are we still going to expect that people retire at 65 and that SS and Medicare will support them for 30 years? Well, that is exactly what we have done to this point, only it is not at 15 years.

Besides raising the retirement age, Medicare funding needs to be increased immediately. That means raising the payroll rate for Medicare. Whatever the rate is should be absorbed 100% by the employee.

You know what is even more simple? Actually force the the federal government to adhere to the ultimate law of the land - the US Constitution. In that single step, we would shrink this monstrosity by 80%, end the bankrupting Cuba Socialist programs, and actually secure our borders saving us hundres of billions in criminal actions and support (healthcare, education, etc.) for illegal aliens. If the federal government were forced to actually adhere to the Constitution as they are supposed to, we could probably pay off our entire debt in 3 years. Problem solved.

That's not the aim of Republicans. They signed the Grover Norquist "pledge". That's what they swear fealty too.

Pop Quiz.

How does the government generate revenue according to the Constitution of the United States?
 
I too was concerned
that Papa Obama might
have to cancel his big Birthday Party

because of all his hard work on the debt

But thank goodness , that does not seem to be the case
:eusa_whistle:
 
Its tough to say the middle class is the backbone of the U S when we no longer make anyting. I guess you could say the Wal Mart employees and casino workers might be middle class.

I have a neighbor who is in debt up to his eyeballs. He has payments on everything including his T V , Stereo, home, three cars, etc. He is taking out a second on his home and applying for more credit cards in order to pay his bills. I told him the best way to handle it is to borrow all he can in order to right the sinking ship. Would any of you loan money to this neighbor? The higher ups in government have given him the solution.

The US actually manufactures more than we ever have. You are repeating fallacies.
Your neighbor is an idiot. But if you were a Democrat you would force the neighbor on the other side to start making payments to him so he can keep his lifestyle.
 
Raise the retirement age; it's quite simple. Very few like this idea because on the far right, they just want to dismantle anything that the government runs, even if it's to their own detriment. On the left, nobody wants to raise the retirement age because they see it as being unfair to lower income earners who work in more physical jobs.

The fact is that both SS and Medicare are very good programs. However, they were not meant to pay people for nearly 15 years on average. Look at it this way, if all of a sudden life expectancy jumps to 90 years, are we still going to expect that people retire at 65 and that SS and Medicare will support them for 30 years? Well, that is exactly what we have done to this point, only it is not at 15 years.

Besides raising the retirement age, Medicare funding needs to be increased immediately. That means raising the payroll rate for Medicare. Whatever the rate is should be absorbed 100% by the employee.

You know what is even more simple? Actually force the the federal government to adhere to the ultimate law of the land - the US Constitution. In that single step, we would shrink this monstrosity by 80%, end the bankrupting Cuba Socialist programs, and actually secure our borders saving us hundres of billions in criminal actions and support (healthcare, education, etc.) for illegal aliens. If the federal government were forced to actually adhere to the Constitution as they are supposed to, we could probably pay off our entire debt in 3 years. Problem solved.

That's not the aim of Republicans. They signed the Grover Norquist "pledge". That's what they swear fealty too.

Pop Quiz.

How does the government generate revenue according to the Constitution of the United States?

Through taxes. What's your point?

Pop Quiz.

How do liberals abuse that part of the Constitution? Let me count the ways.

By believing that part allows for Communism - giving the federal government the right to confiscate 100% of a persons wealth and redistribute it as they see fit

After claiming there would be no new taxes, once Obamacare was founded to be unconstitutional in a court of law, Obama tried to circumvent our laws again (and prove he believes he is a dictator who can do what ever he wants without exception) by claiming Obamacare was simpy a "tax" and since the Consitution grants him the federal government the power to tax, it was constitutional. Oops....

By believing they can recklessly spend the country into $14 trillion in debt because they have the right to confiscate the bank account of all American's any time they want.

Should I continue?
 
You know what is even more simple? Actually force the the federal government to adhere to the ultimate law of the land - the US Constitution. In that single step, we would shrink this monstrosity by 80%, end the bankrupting Cuba Socialist programs, and actually secure our borders saving us hundres of billions in criminal actions and support (healthcare, education, etc.) for illegal aliens. If the federal government were forced to actually adhere to the Constitution as they are supposed to, we could probably pay off our entire debt in 3 years. Problem solved.

That's not the aim of Republicans. They signed the Grover Norquist "pledge". That's what they swear fealty too.

Pop Quiz.

How does the government generate revenue according to the Constitution of the United States?

Through taxes. What's your point?

Pop Quiz.

How do liberals abuse that part of the Constitution? Let me count the ways.

By believing that part allows for Communism - giving the federal government the right to confiscate 100% of a persons wealth and redistribute it as they see fit

After claiming there would be no new taxes, once Obamacare was founded to be unconstitutional in a court of law, Obama tried to circumvent our laws again (and prove he believes he is a dictator who can do what ever he wants without exception) by claiming Obamacare was simpy a "tax" and since the Consitution grants him the federal government the power to tax, it was constitutional. Oops....

By believing they can recklessly spend the country into $14 trillion in debt because they have the right to confiscate the bank account of all American's any time they want.

Should I continue?

Lets start with this point.

When in the History of America..has that happened?

Include links.

As in.."Millionaire John Doe after successfully managing his Sproket Company for 20 years, following all the laws, regulations and rules of the American Government, found all his wealth confiscated and given out to the community."
 
Big O got cut out of the debt talks picture... Took the gop long enough to realize he wasn't playing for real, but instead he was playing for votes.
 
That's not the aim of Republicans. They signed the Grover Norquist "pledge". That's what they swear fealty too.

Pop Quiz.

How does the government generate revenue according to the Constitution of the United States?

Through taxes. What's your point?

Pop Quiz.

How do liberals abuse that part of the Constitution? Let me count the ways.

By believing that part allows for Communism - giving the federal government the right to confiscate 100% of a persons wealth and redistribute it as they see fit

After claiming there would be no new taxes, once Obamacare was founded to be unconstitutional in a court of law, Obama tried to circumvent our laws again (and prove he believes he is a dictator who can do what ever he wants without exception) by claiming Obamacare was simpy a "tax" and since the Consitution grants him the federal government the power to tax, it was constitutional. Oops....

By believing they can recklessly spend the country into $14 trillion in debt because they have the right to confiscate the bank account of all American's any time they want.

Should I continue?

Lets start with this point.

When in the History of America..has that happened?

Include links.

As in.."Millionaire John Doe after successfully managing his Sproket Company for 20 years, following all the laws, regulations and rules of the American Government, found all his wealth confiscated and given out to the community."

You need a link to GM stock holders? Silly lib, get with the program.
 
The Dems haven't come up with any plan that I'm aware of.

The Gang of 6 is 3 Dems and 3 Reps. Not the entire Senate.

Reid won't even let them vote on anything the House sends his way. Whatta guy. He must be worried some of his Dems will support whats sent over. They might even pass it. Of course anything passed will have to make it past Barry's veto pen. Nice plan.

The Dems and Barry are blaming the Reps while they do nothing.

Oh so typical of a party that hasn't submitted a budget in almost 3 years.
 
Big O got cut out of the debt talks picture... Took the gop long enough to realize he wasn't playing for real, but instead he was playing for votes.

If he's playing for votes, he's even dumber than I thought. He's losing votes by the second. What American is going to support a radical Marxist who thinks it's ok to spend us into $14 trillion in debt and who thinks you solve that issue by confiscating more of the money earned by hard working American's? People are tired of the US government taking their hard earned money. Obama is an idiot. If he wanted votes, he should have been talking about cutting taxes and cutting spending even more.
 
That's not the aim of Republicans. They signed the Grover Norquist "pledge". That's what they swear fealty too.

Pop Quiz.

How does the government generate revenue according to the Constitution of the United States?

Through taxes. What's your point?

Pop Quiz.

How do liberals abuse that part of the Constitution? Let me count the ways.

By believing that part allows for Communism - giving the federal government the right to confiscate 100% of a persons wealth and redistribute it as they see fit

After claiming there would be no new taxes, once Obamacare was founded to be unconstitutional in a court of law, Obama tried to circumvent our laws again (and prove he believes he is a dictator who can do what ever he wants without exception) by claiming Obamacare was simpy a "tax" and since the Consitution grants him the federal government the power to tax, it was constitutional. Oops....

By believing they can recklessly spend the country into $14 trillion in debt because they have the right to confiscate the bank account of all American's any time they want.

Should I continue?

Lets start with this point.

When in the History of America..has that happened?

Include links.

As in.."Millionaire John Doe after successfully managing his Sproket Company for 20 years, following all the laws, regulations and rules of the American Government, found all his wealth confiscated and given out to the community."

It hasn't happened, because the GOP hasn't allowed it. Notice how they are fighting to the death now to not raise taxes? But just because the GOP has stopped it from happening doesn't mean liberals don't think it's ok to do it.

Notice I didn't say it did happen. I said liberals believe it is ok to confiscate 100% of a persons wealth and redistribute it. Read what is written and not what you want to see.
 
maryland has the best public schools with the highest rated students, and is unionized, texass is not unionized and places way down the list.

What makes you think the teachers in Texas are not unionized?

Welcome to TSTA

my cousin is a football coach at a jr high in Texass, and his wife is a biology teacher, I ask him about the republicans demonizing teachers and how it felt to be a horrible unionized public employee, and he said they are not in the union.. My friend is a basketball coach in Oklahoma I do think they are unionized.

Texas is a right to work state. That means you do not have to join the union if you do not want to, that does not mean it does not exist.
 
Yet again Harry isn't doing his job. Says bill is doa without even debating it. Who made him the final orator of the senate. Why even have other senators if he's never gonna allow then to vote on bills that have been sent to them for their collective consideration.
 

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