Republicans are doing their jobs, are democrats?

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    Democrats claim the gop is the party of "no". How can they make this claim when they havnt passed a budget in nearly 3 years. Republicans have passed 2 major pieces of fiscal legislation that have never seen the light of day in the democratically controlled senate. Seems to me the senate is not only the party of "no", they are the party of "no action"

    The democratic senate has utterly failed to do the business of the American people. Harry Reed is a failed leader. It is his job to lead the senate and promote the views of his caucus through legislation. He constantly blames the house for his own failures. The bills that passed the house are supposed to be debated by his house. He has an opportunity to amend the bill in any fashion and then send it back to the house for a final vote. Then the bill would goto committee for final tweeks and resolution. Yet all he does is table the bills, no debate, no amendments, no nothing. AND THEN HE AND THE PRESIDENT BLAME HOUSE REPUBLICANS! WTF? If he doesn't like their bills its his duty to alter them to make them acceptable to his caucus. At the very least he should have offered a counter proposal in bill form. Yet we get nothing but the blame game....

    Pathetic
     
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    1. Medicare will be insolvent in 2017 w/o reform.
    2. SS will be insolvent in 2037 w/o reform.

    None of the DC whores want to actually do anything because the other party would crucify them. This need to be resolved by a bi-partisan commission, like the Debt Commission.
     
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    Democrats are relying on the general ignorance of the public. But those informed know that to reach true bipartisanship the senate needs to put forth a plan or debate and alter one sent to them. They are playing a political game by making the republicans put forth all the plans so that come election time the can wash their hands of it and claim "this was their plan"

    Let's not forget Obama created the Simpson Bowles commission to create a plan to right the ship. Then when they came forth with their bipartisan plan the president promptly shelved it. Admittedly there were issues for both parties to resolve in that plan but it NEVER saw the light of day. Just like the invisible budget plans of the left. Obama put forth the only budget from the left in the last 3 years and his own party killed it 97-0 in the senate.
     
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    Boehner has the right idea. These are our plans, if you don't like them show us your budget. BO said that they would do 3:1 cuts:revenue, maybe he was counting on taxes now and cuts way way later if ever. The GOP and Tea Party guys are hanging tough, to their credit.
     
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    Nah, we know Allen West isn't working all day like the Democrat Wessman is.
     
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    Raise the retirement age; it's quite simple. Very few like this idea because on the far right, they just want to dismantle anything that the government runs, even if it's to their own detriment. On the left, nobody wants to raise the retirement age because they see it as being unfair to lower income earners who work in more physical jobs.

    The fact is that both SS and Medicare are very good programs. However, they were not meant to pay people for nearly 15 years on average. Look at it this way, if all of a sudden life expectancy jumps to 90 years, are we still going to expect that people retire at 65 and that SS and Medicare will support them for 30 years? Well, that is exactly what we have done to this point, only it is not at 15 years.

    Besides raising the retirement age, Medicare funding needs to be increased immediately. That means raising the payroll rate for Medicare. Whatever the rate is should be absorbed 100% by the employee.
     
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    The gop wants the states to run those programs. The states are far more efficient and have less waste and fraud. The dems label it dismantling because they can't argue the merits of losing control of the cookie jar.
     
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    The GOP is doing a better job at presenting options regarding cuts. Unfortunately, the sacrifice isn't spread around.
     
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    They both suck. They sucked from their very inception. They prove the adage that if you lower the price of something you sell more of it. If you lower the price to zero you are giving it away right and left. They are wasteful inefficient programs that have drained the economy and will bankrupt us.
     
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    this "sacrifice" meme is utter bullshit. Government spends too much. Period. The spending needs to be cut. Period.
     

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