Republicans are doing their jobs, are democrats?

[The Rabbi]

I'm sorry but I totally disagree with the OP and I am a far right leaning Conservative.. Republicans BLOW ASS and will be DAMNED lucky to hold on to their jobs come 2012.. The Tea Party is recruiting candidates HARD and we mean to run them and BACK them with everything we have. Tired of the old crusty institution republican who doesn't give a shit about his or her country, only lining their own fucking pockets. YOUR ASSES ARE OUT..

About every economists (liberal,independent &conservative) thinks the Tea Party's approach to the economy will cause even a bigger recession than we are already in.
You picked a great horse to ride.

The Left has been saying that for some time. If we adopt the Conservative approach then things will REALLY be bad.
We have had 9+% unemployment for nearly 3 years. We have incipient inflation. We have a government whose debt is about to be downgraded by the major agencies.
What is going to get worse??

 

[Moonglow]

Congress controls the purse strings, not a President. Tell me something, over the last 50 years, which party has held control over congress the majority of those years? Hmm?

Ever heard of a thing called a presidential veto? Veto proof congresses have been a very rare thing.

I see you refuse to tell the truth about WHICH PARTY HAS CONTROLLED congress over the past 50 years the ABSOLUTE MAJORITY of the time? I'll give you a hint: LEFTISTS, LIBERALS, DEMOCRATS, MARXISTS, COMMIES.. Too bad you don't have the intellectual integrity or BALLS to admit the truth.

which ones were Marxists?

 

[The Rabbi]

Ever heard of a thing called a presidential veto? Veto proof congresses have been a very rare thing.

I see you refuse to tell the truth about WHICH PARTY HAS CONTROLLED congress over the past 50 years the ABSOLUTE MAJORITY of the time? I'll give you a hint: LEFTISTS, LIBERALS, DEMOCRATS, MARXISTS, COMMIES.. Too bad you don't have the intellectual integrity or BALLS to admit the truth.

which ones were Marxists?

Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

I see you refuse to tell the truth about WHICH PARTY HAS CONTROLLED congress over the past 50 years the ABSOLUTE MAJORITY of the time? I'll give you a hint: LEFTISTS, LIBERALS, DEMOCRATS, MARXISTS, COMMIES.. Too bad you don't have the intellectual integrity or BALLS to admit the truth.

which ones were Marxists?

Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi.

You left out DingleBarry.. he was a glorified do nothing Senator. Hell , all you have to do is watch the March on the Mall this past Spring ... the lefties were out in force PROUDLY holding up their Commie signs.. Each time they came together, they left trash all over the place.. just like leftists aka Hoarders.

 

[Moonglow]

I see you refuse to tell the truth about WHICH PARTY HAS CONTROLLED congress over the past 50 years the ABSOLUTE MAJORITY of the time? I'll give you a hint: LEFTISTS, LIBERALS, DEMOCRATS, MARXISTS, COMMIES.. Too bad you don't have the intellectual integrity or BALLS to admit the truth.

which ones were Marxists?

Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi.

Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist. After graduating from college, Sanders spent time on an Israeli kibbutz, an experience which shaped his political views.

A socialists is not a Marxists

So, this then is the difference between the three social organizations. Marxism and communism were initially the same thing. However as people tried to institute them, Marxism became the ideal that can never be achieved and communism came to be synonymous with the failed, corrupt, transitional, utrasocialist governments. Socialism is any form of government that takes control of various industries away from the private sector. All governments have some elements of socialism in the mix because there are just some things that the private sector cannot do. The debate is over just how much the government should do.

Read more: What are the differences between socialism, communism, and Marxism? | Answerbag What are the differences between socialism, communism, and Marxism? | Answerbag

So you want to tell me how Sanders let govt take over industry and took away private property rights?

And then tell me how Pelosi a rich person, has done the same?

 

[Moonglow]

which ones were Marxists?

Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi.

You left out DingleBarry.. he was a glorified do nothing Senator. Hell , all you have to do is watch the March on the Mall this past Spring ... the lefties were out in force PROUDLY holding up their Commie signs.. Each time they came together, they left trash all over the place.. just like leftists aka Hoarders.

How is Obama a marxists?

 

[Moonglow]

I do believe that those throwing around buzz words, rarely know what the words mean, and the intended usage that is associated with them. Now you may go back to throwing insults. How intellectual.

 

[Moonglow]

I'm sorry but I totally disagree with the OP and I am a far right leaning Conservative.. Republicans BLOW ASS and will be DAMNED lucky to hold on to their jobs come 2012.. The Tea Party is recruiting candidates HARD and we mean to run them and BACK them with everything we have. Tired of the old crusty institution republican who doesn't give a shit about his or her country, only lining their own fucking pockets. YOUR ASSES ARE OUT..

About every economists (liberal,independent &conservative) thinks the Tea Party's approach to the economy will cause even a bigger recession than we are already in.
You picked a great horse to ride.

The Left has been saying that for some time. If we adopt the Conservative approach then things will REALLY be bad.
We have had 9+% unemployment for nearly 3 years. We have incipient inflation. We have a government whose debt is about to be downgraded by the major agencies.
What is going to get worse??

You ability to debate concisely or decently

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

which ones were Marxists?

Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi.

Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist. After graduating from college, Sanders spent time on an Israeli kibbutz, an experience which shaped his political views.

A socialists is not a Marxists

So, this then is the difference between the three social organizations. Marxism and communism were initially the same thing. However as people tried to institute them, Marxism became the ideal that can never be achieved and communism came to be synonymous with the failed, corrupt, transitional, utrasocialist governments. Socialism is any form of government that takes control of various industries away from the private sector. All governments have some elements of socialism in the mix because there are just some things that the private sector cannot do. The debate is over just how much the government should do.

Read more: What are the differences between socialism, communism, and Marxism? | Answerbag What are the differences between socialism, communism, and Marxism? | Answerbag

So you want to tell me how Sanders let govt take over industry and took away private property rights?

And then tell me how Pelosi a rich person, has done the same?

Technically the GM takeover is the perfect answer to your last question. Now ocare is poised to do the same thing.

 

[Moonglow]

Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi.

Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist. After graduating from college, Sanders spent time on an Israeli kibbutz, an experience which shaped his political views.

A socialists is not a Marxists

So, this then is the difference between the three social organizations. Marxism and communism were initially the same thing. However as people tried to institute them, Marxism became the ideal that can never be achieved and communism came to be synonymous with the failed, corrupt, transitional, utrasocialist governments. Socialism is any form of government that takes control of various industries away from the private sector. All governments have some elements of socialism in the mix because there are just some things that the private sector cannot do. The debate is over just how much the government should do.

Read more: What are the differences between socialism, communism, and Marxism? | Answerbag What are the differences between socialism, communism, and Marxism? | Answerbag

So you want to tell me how Sanders let govt take over industry and took away private property rights?

And then tell me how Pelosi a rich person, has done the same?

Technically the GM takeover is the perfect answer to your last question. Now ocare is poised to do the same thing.

the govt. owns no shares or has any holdings in GM, they were sold off last week in accordance with the provisions of the TARP bill. Any interest that the US govt had in GM was the security that GM used to obtain the loans, just like when you go to a bank to get a loan you need collateral. i liked this way much better than when reagan just gace Chrysler the monies and govt. contracts in the '80's.

 

[Moonglow]

Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi.

Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist. After graduating from college, Sanders spent time on an Israeli kibbutz, an experience which shaped his political views.

A socialists is not a Marxists

So, this then is the difference between the three social organizations. Marxism and communism were initially the same thing. However as people tried to institute them, Marxism became the ideal that can never be achieved and communism came to be synonymous with the failed, corrupt, transitional, utrasocialist governments. Socialism is any form of government that takes control of various industries away from the private sector. All governments have some elements of socialism in the mix because there are just some things that the private sector cannot do. The debate is over just how much the government should do.

Read more: What are the differences between socialism, communism, and Marxism? | Answerbag What are the differences between socialism, communism, and Marxism? | Answerbag

So you want to tell me how Sanders let govt take over industry and took away private property rights?

And then tell me how Pelosi a rich person, has done the same?

Technically the GM takeover is the perfect answer to your last question. Now ocare is poised to do the same thing.

Obama care is a capitalistsic adventure. Private insurance companies administer the policies and private medical personal and companies will do the healing. Which part is govt owned?

 

[rdean]

What is it these right wingers are defending? I'm amazed.

Oh please Mr. Cantor, hit me in the face with another shit pie. Ryan missed a spot.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

What is it these right wingers are defending? I'm amazed.

Oh please Mr. Cantor, hit me in the face with another shit pie. Ryan missed a spot.

I've become accustomed to your completely pointless off topic posts. At least other dems are arguing what they consider valid points. You might as well goto chuckie cheese with your mentality. You'd fit in better.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist. After graduating from college, Sanders spent time on an Israeli kibbutz, an experience which shaped his political views.

A socialists is not a Marxists




Read more: What are the differences between socialism, communism, and Marxism? | Answerbag What are the differences between socialism, communism, and Marxism? | Answerbag

So you want to tell me how Sanders let govt take over industry and took away private property rights?

And then tell me how Pelosi a rich person, has done the same?

Technically the GM takeover is the perfect answer to your last question. Now ocare is poised to do the same thing.

Obama care is a capitalistsic adventure. Private insurance companies administer the policies and private medical personal and companies will do the healing. Which part is govt owned?

GM share holders got their shares (private property) stolen from them. That's a fact and it fits your description.

Ocare forces the public to buy a "private" product from a "private" company. How is that capitalistic?

 

[rdean]

What is it these right wingers are defending? I'm amazed.

Oh please Mr. Cantor, hit me in the face with another shit pie. Ryan missed a spot.

I've become accustomed to your completely pointless off topic posts. At least other dems are arguing what they consider valid points. You might as well goto chuckie cheese with your mentality. You'd fit in better.

Off topic?

To me, the most important group in the entire United States is the "middle class". These people are the backbone of the country. During his recent speech, when John Boehner said, "We need to lower taxes and broaden the tax base to bring in more revenue", what do you think he was talking about? How do you "lower the taxes" but "broaden" the base.

Clearly, he was talking about moving even more taxes to the middle class. It's not enough that Republicans want to slash education. And they do, that can't be denied. The Ryan plan, now the Republican Plan wants to cut Medicare. That can't be denied. Republicans have always hated Social Security. That can't be denied.

The Republican part of the Middle Class votes against their own self interests until they get so severely dick slapped, self preservation causes them to rebel. Ask yourself the question, "All the cuts to education, school lunches, destroying unions, and so on. Is the money being used to balance the budget of the different states? Or is it being used for even more tax cuts?"

Some schools will open in the fall with one teacher and over 50 students. Good luck on getting an education.

I love this post from Rickshriener:

Please Do The Math:
Reagan inherited $908 bil. in debt growing to $2.6 tril. Up:+186%.
Bush I inherited $2.6 tril. in debt growing to $4.2 tril. Up:+62%.
Clinton inherited $4.2 tril. in debt growing to $5.7 tril. Up:+36%.
Bush II inherited $5.7 tril. in debt growing to $10.6 tril. Up:+86%
.Obama inherited $10.6 tril. in debt that is now up to $13 tril. Up: +23%."

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The GOP is doing a better job at presenting options regarding cuts. Unfortunately, the sacrifice isn't spread around.

this "sacrifice" meme is utter bullshit. Government spends too much. Period. The spending needs to be cut. Period.

Even Grover Norquist thinks it's OK to let Bush's tax cuts expire to solve the debt ceiling issue. It's just plain sane logic to everyone, except for the far, far right.

Obama wanted to extend the cuts and increase the deficit.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

What is it these right wingers are defending? I'm amazed.

Oh please Mr. Cantor, hit me in the face with another shit pie. Ryan missed a spot.

I've become accustomed to your completely pointless off topic posts. At least other dems are arguing what they consider valid points. You might as well goto chuckie cheese with your mentality. You'd fit in better.

Off topic?

To me, the most important group in the entire United States is the "middle class". These people are the backbone of the country. During his recent speech, when John Boehner said, "We need to lower taxes and broaden the tax base to bring in more revenue", what do you think he was talking about? How do you "lower the taxes" but "broaden" the base.

Clearly, he was talking about moving even more taxes to the middle class. It's not enough that Republicans want to slash education. And they do, that can't be denied. The Ryan plan, now the Republican Plan wants to cut Medicare. That can't be denied. Republicans have always hated Social Security. That can't be denied.

The Republican part of the Middle Class votes against their own self interests until they get so severely dick slapped, self preservation causes them to rebel. Ask yourself the question, "All the cuts to education, school lunches, destroying unions, and so on. Is the money being used to balance the budget of the different states? Or is it being used for even more tax cuts?"

Some schools will open in the fall with one teacher and over 50 students. Good luck on getting an education.

I love this post from Rickshriener:

Please Do The Math:
Reagan inherited $908 bil. in debt growing to $2.6 tril. Up:+186%.
Bush I inherited $2.6 tril. in debt growing to $4.2 tril. Up:+62%.
Clinton inherited $4.2 tril. in debt growing to $5.7 tril. Up:+36%.
Bush II inherited $5.7 tril. in debt growing to $10.6 tril. Up:+86%
.Obama inherited $10.6 tril. in debt that is now up to $13 tril. Up: +23%."

Nice to see your able to contribute. Now we have something to discuss.

First of all the gop wants to turn the entitlements over to the states who can better distribute them without all the fraud and waste. Ryans plan doesn't impact current seniors or those close to retiring.

Secondly everyone cries about balancing the budget on the backs of the middle class and poor. Well the wealthy pay the lions share of our govts revenue while the poor put the biggest drain on revenue. This isn't a robin hood movie where you can continually rape the rich at the expence of the poor and lazy. Our country will fail if we continue on this path. The bottom rungs of this ladder need to contribute. They get free benefits costing us billions while offering nothing in return. And by the way I've employed many of these societial leeches. I've earned my way, its time fore everyone else to do the same. And this economy is hurting me possibly more than a lot of you cause I own a remodeling company. Yet I'm not demanding more, I'm demanding uncle Sam get the hell out of my way. I was born a free American not a ward of the govt.

Public unions are the cause of our educational decline. They take more and more every year while offering less and less in results. It's about time our governors stood up to these bullies and said no more.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Democrats claim the gop is the party of "no". How can they make this claim when they havnt passed a budget in nearly 3 years. Republicans have passed 2 major pieces of fiscal legislation that have never seen the light of day in the democratically controlled senate. Seems to me the senate is not only the party of "no", they are the party of "no action"

The democratic senate has utterly failed to do the business of the American people. Harry Reed is a failed leader. It is his job to lead the senate and promote the views of his caucus through legislation. He constantly blames the house for his own failures. The bills that passed the house are supposed to be debated by his house. He has an opportunity to amend the bill in any fashion and then send it back to the house for a final vote. Then the bill would goto committee for final tweeks and resolution. Yet all he does is table the bills, no debate, no amendments, no nothing. AND THEN HE AND THE PRESIDENT BLAME HOUSE REPUBLICANS! WTF? If he doesn't like their bills its his duty to alter them to make them acceptable to his caucus. At the very least he should have offered a counter proposal in bill form. Yet we get nothing but the blame game....

Pathetic

Which bills are you talking about? One was the Ryan bill that cut Medicare. What was the other one? Cut more taxes for wealthy people? Slash education? Certainly nothing to do with jobs.

Let's all debate why seniors should get their benefits cut. Why oil subsidies are more important than school lunches.

The Ryan bill did not cut Medicare.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

What is it these right wingers are defending? I'm amazed.

Oh please Mr. Cantor, hit me in the face with another shit pie. Ryan missed a spot.

I've become accustomed to your completely pointless off topic posts. At least other dems are arguing what they consider valid points. You might as well goto chuckie cheese with your mentality. You'd fit in better.

Off topic?

To me, the most important group in the entire United States is the "middle class". These people are the backbone of the country. During his recent speech, when John Boehner said, "We need to lower taxes and broaden the tax base to bring in more revenue", what do you think he was talking about? How do you "lower the taxes" but "broaden" the base.

Clearly, he was talking about moving even more taxes to the middle class. It's not enough that Republicans want to slash education. And they do, that can't be denied. The Ryan plan, now the Republican Plan wants to cut Medicare. That can't be denied. Republicans have always hated Social Security. That can't be denied.

The Republican part of the Middle Class votes against their own self interests until they get so severely dick slapped, self preservation causes them to rebel. Ask yourself the question, "All the cuts to education, school lunches, destroying unions, and so on. Is the money being used to balance the budget of the different states? Or is it being used for even more tax cuts?"

Some schools will open in the fall with one teacher and over 50 students. Good luck on getting an education.

I love this post from Rickshriener:

Please Do The Math:
Reagan inherited $908 bil. in debt growing to $2.6 tril. Up:+186%.
Bush I inherited $2.6 tril. in debt growing to $4.2 tril. Up:+62%.
Clinton inherited $4.2 tril. in debt growing to $5.7 tril. Up:+36%.
Bush II inherited $5.7 tril. in debt growing to $10.6 tril. Up:+86%
.Obama inherited $10.6 tril. in debt that is now up to $13 tril. Up: +23%."

Yes, lets do the math.

Reagan/Bush $3,156 trillion in 12 years.
Obama $4.268 trillion in 3 years.

 

[Moonglow]

this "sacrifice" meme is utter bullshit. Government spends too much. Period. The spending needs to be cut. Period.

Even Grover Norquist thinks it's OK to let Bush's tax cuts expire to solve the debt ceiling issue. It's just plain sane logic to everyone, except for the far, far right.

Obama wanted to extend the cuts and increase the deficit.

in the spirit of compromise yes he did, the stimulus had tax cuts in it. Obama has cut taxes just like republicans, he has tried many options to get the economy rolling.