Religion, Culture and Homophobia

[sealybobo]

It is interesting to find out how "accepted" homosexuals are around the world. Meanwhile, the mass murder terror attack yesterday was done by a guy who not only yelled allah akbar but called the police to tell them about his allegiance to ISIS. To suggest that global attitudes about homosexuality drove this freak to kill a bunch of people, seems to me to be a non sequitur.

Homophobia - regardless of the religion behind it - is what drove this person to do what he did. He hated homosexuals and I'm not sure what difference it makes whether he yells "allah akbar" or "halleluja".

Not to mention that a large segment of this country applauds people for speaking hatred against gays, and there is no way the Orlando murderer wasn't influenced by that.

So, this guy never hated homosexuals nor had an inkling to pledge allegiance to ISIS till he got a load of the USA's attitude toward "gays". Wow.

I tend to blame murderers for doing murder, not the culture in which their victims live.

Then you must not care why America has so many crazies.

Lots of people think rather than ban guns we need to figure out why so many Americans are losing it. There's something wrong with our culture. This shit happens more here why?

 

[Compost]

It is interesting to find out how "accepted" homosexuals are around the world. Meanwhile, the mass murder terror attack yesterday was done by a guy who not only yelled allah akbar but called the police to tell them about his allegiance to ISIS. To suggest that global attitudes about homosexuality drove this freak to kill a bunch of people, seems to me to be a non sequitur.

Homophobia - regardless of the religion behind it - is what drove this person to do what he did. He hated homosexuals and I'm not sure what difference it makes whether he yells "allah akbar" or "halleluja".

Not to mention that a large segment of this country applauds people for speaking hatred against gays, and there is no way the Orlando murderer wasn't influenced by that.

So, this guy never hated homosexuals nor had an inkling to pledge allegiance to ISIS till he got a load of the USA's attitude toward "gays". Wow.

I tend to blame murderers for doing murder, not the culture in which their victims live.

But you blame the murders religion.

I blame him for being ISIS. That entails a lot more than religion.

 

[Lipush]

As long as your leaders evade saying "RADICAL ISLAM" and not dealing with as in RADICAL ISLAM, you'll keep hearing of those situations.

 

[Compost]

It is interesting to find out how "accepted" homosexuals are around the world. Meanwhile, the mass murder terror attack yesterday was done by a guy who not only yelled allah akbar but called the police to tell them about his allegiance to ISIS. To suggest that global attitudes about homosexuality drove this freak to kill a bunch of people, seems to me to be a non sequitur.

Homophobia - regardless of the religion behind it - is what drove this person to do what he did. He hated homosexuals and I'm not sure what difference it makes whether he yells "allah akbar" or "halleluja".

Not to mention that a large segment of this country applauds people for speaking hatred against gays, and there is no way the Orlando murderer wasn't influenced by that.

So, this guy never hated homosexuals nor had an inkling to pledge allegiance to ISIS till he got a load of the USA's attitude toward "gays". Wow.

I tend to blame murderers for doing murder, not the culture in which their victims live.

Then you must not care why America has so many crazies.

Lots of people think rather than ban guns we need to figure out why so many Americans are losing it. There's something wrong with our culture. This shit happens more here why?

I don't blame Americans for being targets of ISIS terrorists.

Saying I don't care is nonsense and shows a startling refusal to engage in intelligent discussion. I dislike wasting my time and will go with my earlier plan to say good bye to this thread.

 

[sealybobo]

As long as your leaders evade saying "RADICAL ISLAM" and not dealing with as in RADICAL ISLAM, you'll keep hearing of those situations.

We are starting to see that we do need to move these islamic countries towards separate of church and state. If they don't maybe we don't do business with them.

If they can't separate church and state fuck them. Same with radical Christians. They need to be dealt with too

 

[irosie91]

It is interesting to find out how "accepted" homosexuals are around the world. Meanwhile, the mass murder terror attack yesterday was done by a guy who not only yelled allah akbar but called the police to tell them about his allegiance to ISIS. To suggest that global attitudes about homosexuality drove this freak to kill a bunch of people, seems to me to be a non sequitur.

Homophobia - regardless of the religion behind it - is what drove this person to do what he did. He hated homosexuals and I'm not sure what difference it makes whether he yells "allah akbar" or "halleluja".

Not to mention that a large segment of this country applauds people for speaking hatred against gays, and there is no way the Orlando murderer wasn't influenced by that.

Islam reward the killing of both infidels and queers with eternal orgasm in the cathouse in the sky

 

[sealybobo]

It is interesting to find out how "accepted" homosexuals are around the world. Meanwhile, the mass murder terror attack yesterday was done by a guy who not only yelled allah akbar but called the police to tell them about his allegiance to ISIS. To suggest that global attitudes about homosexuality drove this freak to kill a bunch of people, seems to me to be a non sequitur.

Homophobia - regardless of the religion behind it - is what drove this person to do what he did. He hated homosexuals and I'm not sure what difference it makes whether he yells "allah akbar" or "halleluja".

Not to mention that a large segment of this country applauds people for speaking hatred against gays, and there is no way the Orlando murderer wasn't influenced by that.

So, this guy never hated homosexuals nor had an inkling to pledge allegiance to ISIS till he got a load of the USA's attitude toward "gays". Wow.

I tend to blame murderers for doing murder, not the culture in which their victims live.

Then you must not care why America has so many crazies.

Lots of people think rather than ban guns we need to figure out why so many Americans are losing it. There's something wrong with our culture. This shit happens more here why?

I don't blame Americans for being targets of ISIS terrorists.

Saying I don't care is nonsense and shows a startling refusal to engage in intelligent discussion. I dislike wasting my time and will go with my earlier plan to say good bye to this thread.

Huh? You didn't even understand what I said. I'm not blaming Americans for being targets of Isis.

The shooter was a crazy American. Why was he so anti gay and angry? I may blame Republican rhetoric and religions

 

[koshergrl]

Oh look, coyote is going balls to the wall, trying to blame MUSLIM atrocities on "religion" in general.

 

[tyroneweaver]

obama is pushing 2 conflicting societies to live peaceably together.
Sorta like starlings and woodpeckers.

starlings and woodpeckers don't get along?
I did not know

ya, starlings raid their nest. And the pair will gang up on the woodpecker and chase em off

 

[LittleNipper]

It is interesting to find out how "accepted" homosexuals are around the world. Meanwhile, the mass murder terror attack yesterday was done by a guy who not only yelled allah akbar but called the police to tell them about his allegiance to ISIS. To suggest that global attitudes about homosexuality drove this freak to kill a bunch of people, seems to me to be a non sequitur.

Homophobia - regardless of the religion behind it - is what drove this person to do what he did. He hated homosexuals and I'm not sure what difference it makes whether he yells "allah akbar" or "halleluja".

Closer to reality is that he hates all infidels, sure, that includes homosexuals. ISIS freaks don't yell hallelujah, they yell allah akbar.

If he generically hated all infidels, he would not have chosen a specifically homosexual venue.

I cannot imagine that homosexuality is anything anyone would feel blessed being.

 

[Tilly]

Oh look, coyote is going balls to the wall, trying to blame MUSLIM atrocities on "religion" in general.

And he was raised by a Taliban loving father. Can't imagine where he got his ideas from. Christianity and the Republicans according to some here. You couldn't make it up. Lol.

 

[irosie91]

Homophobia - regardless of the religion behind it - is what drove this person to do what he did. He hated homosexuals and I'm not sure what difference it makes whether he yells "allah akbar" or "halleluja".

Not to mention that a large segment of this country applauds people for speaking hatred against gays, and there is no way the Orlando murderer wasn't influenced by that.

So, this guy never hated homosexuals nor had an inkling to pledge allegiance to ISIS till he got a load of the USA's attitude toward "gays". Wow.

I tend to blame murderers for doing murder, not the culture in which their victims live.

Then you must not care why America has so many crazies.

Lots of people think rather than ban guns we need to figure out why so many Americans are losing it. There's something wrong with our culture. This shit happens more here why?

I don't blame Americans for being targets of ISIS terrorists.

Saying I don't care is nonsense and shows a startling refusal to engage in intelligent discussion. I dislike wasting my time and will go with my earlier plan to say good bye to this thread.

Huh? You didn't even understand what I said. I'm not blaming Americans for being targets of Isis.

The shooter was a crazy American. Why was he so anti gay and angry? I may blame Republican rhetoric and religions

obama is pushing 2 conflicting societies to live peaceably together.
Sorta like starlings and woodpeckers.

starlings and woodpeckers don't get along?
I did not know

ya, starlings raid their nest. And the pair will gang up on the woodpecker and chase em off

I had no idea-----lots of starlings where I grew up-----but only a few woodpeckers---hiding in cherry trees

 

[koshergrl]

It is interesting to find out how "accepted" homosexuals are around the world. Meanwhile, the mass murder terror attack yesterday was done by a guy who not only yelled allah akbar but called the police to tell them about his allegiance to ISIS. To suggest that global attitudes about homosexuality drove this freak to kill a bunch of people, seems to me to be a non sequitur.

Homophobia - regardless of the religion behind it - is what drove this person to do what he did. He hated homosexuals and I'm not sure what difference it makes whether he yells "allah akbar" or "halleluja".

Closer to reality is that he hates all infidels, sure, that includes homosexuals. ISIS freaks don't yell hallelujah, they yell allah akbar.

If he generically hated all infidels, he would not have chosen a specifically homosexual venue.

I cannot imagine that homosexuality is anything anyone would feel blessed being.

It's a symptom of mental illness.

 

[norwegen]

It is interesting to find out how "accepted" homosexuals are around the world. Meanwhile, the mass murder terror attack yesterday was done by a guy who not only yelled allah akbar but called the police to tell them about his allegiance to ISIS. To suggest that global attitudes about homosexuality drove this freak to kill a bunch of people, seems to me to be a non sequitur.

Homophobia - regardless of the religion behind it - is what drove this person to do what he did. He hated homosexuals and I'm not sure what difference it makes whether he yells "allah akbar" or "halleluja".

Closer to reality is that he hates all infidels, sure, that includes homosexuals. ISIS freaks don't yell hallelujah, they yell allah akbar.

If he generically hated all infidels, he would not have chosen a specifically homosexual venue.

If he had shot up a synagogue, would you wonder why he chose a specifically Jewish venue?

He was going to commit murder-suicide in only one location.

 

[norwegen]

It is interesting to find out how "accepted" homosexuals are around the world. Meanwhile, the mass murder terror attack yesterday was done by a guy who not only yelled allah akbar but called the police to tell them about his allegiance to ISIS. To suggest that global attitudes about homosexuality drove this freak to kill a bunch of people, seems to me to be a non sequitur.

Homophobia - regardless of the religion behind it - is what drove this person to do what he did. He hated homosexuals and I'm not sure what difference it makes whether he yells "allah akbar" or "halleluja".

Christianity does not subscribe to the murder of homosexsuals.

 

[norwegen]

obama is pushing 2 conflicting societies to live peaceably together.
Sorta like starlings and woodpeckers.

Quite right. The culture clash is a result of the introduction of a parasitic culture. Or at least of giving it voice.

 

[koshergrl]

It is interesting to find out how "accepted" homosexuals are around the world. Meanwhile, the mass murder terror attack yesterday was done by a guy who not only yelled allah akbar but called the police to tell them about his allegiance to ISIS. To suggest that global attitudes about homosexuality drove this freak to kill a bunch of people, seems to me to be a non sequitur.

Homophobia - regardless of the religion behind it - is what drove this person to do what he did. He hated homosexuals and I'm not sure what difference it makes whether he yells "allah akbar" or "halleluja".

Christianity does not subscribe to the murder of homosexsuals.

Ask her to post some information about a Christian group that daily yells "HALLELUJAH" while butchering people.

She's just another mentally ill, closet queer, sharia loving, baby killing ghoul.

 

[norwegen]

It is interesting to find out how "accepted" homosexuals are around the world. Meanwhile, the mass murder terror attack yesterday was done by a guy who not only yelled allah akbar but called the police to tell them about his allegiance to ISIS. To suggest that global attitudes about homosexuality drove this freak to kill a bunch of people, seems to me to be a non sequitur.

Homophobia - regardless of the religion behind it - is what drove this person to do what he did. He hated homosexuals and I'm not sure what difference it makes whether he yells "allah akbar" or "halleluja".

Christianity does not subscribe to the murder of homosexsuals.

Ask her to post some information about a Christian group that daily yells "HALLELUJAH" while butchering people.

She's just another mentally ill, closet queer, sharia loving, baby killing ghoul.

Christians have acted contrary to the Scriptures, to be sure, but in much smaller measure than popular opinion espouses, and never in the name of Christ, but rather in the name of mass hysteria, self-aggrandizement, or errant doctrine.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Not to mention that a large segment of this country applauds people for speaking hatred against gays, and there is no way the Orlando murderer wasn't influenced by that.

So, this guy never hated homosexuals nor had an inkling to pledge allegiance to ISIS till he got a load of the USA's attitude toward "gays". Wow.

I tend to blame murderers for doing murder, not the culture in which their victims live.

Then you must not care why America has so many crazies.

Lots of people think rather than ban guns we need to figure out why so many Americans are losing it. There's something wrong with our culture. This shit happens more here why?

I don't blame Americans for being targets of ISIS terrorists.

Saying I don't care is nonsense and shows a startling refusal to engage in intelligent discussion. I dislike wasting my time and will go with my earlier plan to say good bye to this thread.

Huh? You didn't even understand what I said. I'm not blaming Americans for being targets of Isis.

The shooter was a crazy American. Why was he so anti gay and angry? I may blame Republican rhetoric and religions

obama is pushing 2 conflicting societies to live peaceably together.
Sorta like starlings and woodpeckers.

starlings and woodpeckers don't get along?
I did not know

ya, starlings raid their nest. And the pair will gang up on the woodpecker and chase em off

I had no idea-----lots of starlings where I grew up-----but only a few woodpeckers---hiding in cherry trees

This shooter is a biologist. Watch the whole video if ya can

 

[bodecea]

The Global Divide on Homosexuality
Greater Acceptance in More Secular and Affluent Countries

Some unsurprising information - most Muslim-majority nations show significant majorities stating that homosexuality should not be accepted. What is surprising though - is significant numbers in non-Muslim countries such as S. Korea, China, El Salvadore and in Africa: Ghana, Uganda and Kenya, both Christian majority are over 90% unwilling to accept homosexuality.

"The survey of publics in 39 countries finds broad acceptance of homosexuality in North America, the European Union, and much of Latin America, but equally widespread rejection in predominantly Muslim nations and in Africa, as well as in parts of Asia and in Russia. Opinion about the acceptability of homosexuality is divided in Israel, Poland and Bolivia."​

On the other hand, the trend in developed and more secular countries is towards greater tolerance of homosexuality, including among immigrant populations.

The report also notes a strong relationship between religiousity and anti-homosexual attitudes that correlates with both Islam, Christianity and even Judaism, with secular Jews in Israel being far more tolerant than religious Jews:

"There is a strong relationship between a country’s religiosity and opinions about homosexuality.2 There is far less acceptance of homosexuality in countries where religion is central to people’s lives – measured by whether they consider religion to be very important, whether they believe it is necessary to believe in God in order to be moral, and whether they pray at least once a day."
​

Another interesting point is that this increased tolerance is also reflected in immigrant populations to secular countries: Section 5: Political Opinions and Social Values, specifically Muslims. The overall national trend is towards greater acceptance, and though the trend is still lower than the rest of America, it is still trending towards greater acceptance.

Acceptance of homosexuality has risen significantly among those with high levels of religious commitment (from 16% in 2007 to 30% today) as well as those with medium levels of religious commitment (from 21% in 2007 to 37% today). However, those who express a low level of religious commitment continue to be more accepting (57%) than those with a high religious commitment (30%). Four years ago, 47% of those with low religious commitment said homosexuality should be accepted, compared with 16% among those who express a high commitment.


Whether Muslim Americans were born in the U.S. or immigrated here seems to make little difference in views toward homosexuality. Currently, 41% of the native born say homosexuality should be accepted, about the same as the 38% of foreign born who say this. In both cases, the numbers are up since 2007 (30% among the native born, 26% among the foreign born).​

Given the recent tragedy in Orlando, which is driving a new furvor of anti-muslimism and a sudden new finding of "pro-gay sentiment" amongst formerly gay-hating demographics - it might be a good idea to look at actual trends within the US, and what really goes on around the world - including gay-hating non-Muslim countries that seem to get a free pass.

I would not trust any Christer's new found support for gay Americans.