Regarding the charges filed against the arresting officers of Freddy Gray

[JakeStarkey]

TK was unable to complete his paralegal training, and he is lecturing his betters on the law?

 

[Moonglow]

Officers cuffed Gray's hands behind his back and shackled his legs but did not secure him with a seatbelt while the van was moving, a violation of police department policy. Then, with "depraved indifference," officers ignored Gray's repeated pleas for medical attention, Mosby said.
Six Baltimore officers charged in death of Gray one with murder - Yahoo News

We know this, how? From the same witness who said Mike Brown had his hands up?

Yuk-Yuk

Officers cuffed Gray's hands behind his back and shackled his legs but did not secure him with a seatbelt while the van was moving, a violation of police department policy. Then, with "depraved indifference," officers ignored Gray's repeated pleas for medical attention, Mosby said.
Six Baltimore officers charged in death of Gray one with murder - Yahoo News

Most cruel and unusual....

Did the officers even HEAR Freddie's supposed calls for medical help?

I am sure he did........

How do we know this? Those paddy-wagons are pretty loud, aren't they? Was there a wall between the driver and his prisoners? Just asking.

how would the officials know if nobody ever heard him?

 

[Moonglow]

TK was unable to complete his paralegal training, and he is lecturing his betters on the law?

Is he still catering?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Try to understand something here. These are charges, not a conviction. Moreover, like in the Rodney King case, the prosecutor overcharged the officers, in this case 2nd Degree Murder. There is no way they can pass the "depraved heart" test, because as of now, they cannot prove the officers acted with extreme indifference to the value of human life, as described in the Model Penal Code § 210.2(1)(b). In my opinion, the reader should be prepared for an acquittal on that charge.

What gets me here is that it only took Baltimore's State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby two weeks to pass down an indictment. Usually investigations take far longer than just two weeks. Given the riots that occurred in Baltimore, I believe it was a rushed indictment, to avoid further unrest and violence.

Now, for those of you old enough to remember, if you'll recall your history, in the Rodney King case the prosecutor overcharged the four officers involved in brutally beating King (it is common knowledge that prosecutors will instinctively overcharge the defendant with the highest allowable offense in the indictment). The prosecutors placed too much confidence in the video evidence (coincidentally, that may also be the case here as well). Thusly when the trial in Simi Valley concluded, Officer Powell, the main defendant in the trial, was acquitted along with the three others involved in the incident. Hours later, Los Angeles had descended into anarchic chaos.

Mosby's comments at the latter end of her announcement appeared to be political, and will allow the defense to pressure for a change in venue for the eventual trial. Like I said in opening, the 2nd Degree murder charge is too harsh. She is basically saying those officers intentionally and maliciously murdered Gray, which ironically, would suit the narrative surrounding this case. It will be interesting to know what evidence there will be (other than the Medical Examiner's report) to support this allegation.

Just as I predicted.

 

[NYcarbineer]

TK was unable to complete his paralegal training, and he is lecturing his betters on the law?

Go back to where he started from on this issue, and compare it to where he's retreated, although still fighting a rearguard action.

 

[Statistikhengst]

She was a cheerleader for the brain dead thugs. My question is why was Freddy the freeloader unable to walk to the wagon...he had to be dragged...wassup wid dat, yo...

So, you really ARE that stupid, eh?

They beat the shit out of him until he couldn't walk any more.

Then they shackled him and threw him in the vehicle, stomach down, head first, without strapping him in.

Yepp, your racist side shines through, as always. Yer a Rightie.

Stick the racist shit up your ass...and how do you know Freddy was beaten?

It was filmed. Remember that?

 

[Statistikhengst]

TK was unable to complete his paralegal training, and he is lecturing his betters on the law?

Is he still catering?

Or does he sell Kirbys?

 

[JakeStarkey]

I like TK, most of the time, but he allows his depression and sense of victimization to rob him of his life.

 

[Moonglow]

TK was unable to complete his paralegal training, and he is lecturing his betters on the law?

Is he still catering?

Or does he sell Kirbys?

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[Moonglow]

I like TK, most of the time, but he allows his depression and sense of victimization to rob him of his life.

Never got me any where......He should join the 7th Day Adventist church.

 

[Moonglow]

 

[Moonglow]

When we share, we grow....

 

[aaronleland]

Officers cuffed Gray's hands behind his back and shackled his legs but did not secure him with a seatbelt while the van was moving, a violation of police department policy. Then, with "depraved indifference," officers ignored Gray's repeated pleas for medical attention, Mosby said.
Six Baltimore officers charged in death of Gray one with murder - Yahoo News

Most cruel and unusual....

Did the officers even HEAR Freddie's supposed calls for medical help?

I am sure he did........

How do we know this? Those paddy-wagons are pretty loud, aren't they? Was there a wall between the driver and his prisoners? Just asking.

I work in a steel mill. Everything is pretty loud. I'd still hear a dying man screaming, and I have.

 

[Pheonixops]

The Prosecutor is on record saying that she heard the cries of the community and is now seeking justice for Freddie; playing to the batshit-crazy crowd.

Although I have nothing substantive to base this upon, my Spidey Sense tells me that most of this going to get tossed out of court during the early going.

I can see them get convicted of manslaughter or negligence but the whole story isn't out yet. There are lots of "facts" and allegations right now, I think that it's going to take a while for the whole story to come out. I can see the possibility of federal civil rights charges coming out as well. I saw a crawl on Foxnews today stating that the state prosecutor stated that the police had no probable cause to apprehend/arrest Gray. Somebody please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Moonglow]

Officers cuffed Gray's hands behind his back and shackled his legs but did not secure him with a seatbelt while the van was moving, a violation of police department policy. Then, with "depraved indifference," officers ignored Gray's repeated pleas for medical attention, Mosby said.
Six Baltimore officers charged in death of Gray one with murder - Yahoo News

Most cruel and unusual....

Did the officers even HEAR Freddie's supposed calls for medical help?

I am sure he did........

How do we know this? Those paddy-wagons are pretty loud, aren't they? Was there a wall between the driver and his prisoners? Just asking.

I work in a steel mill. Everything is pretty loud. I'd still hear a dying man screaming, and I have.

The one in NE Arkansas?

 

[kiwiman127]

Officers cuffed Gray's hands behind his back and shackled his legs but did not secure him with a seatbelt while the van was moving, a violation of police department policy. Then, with "depraved indifference," officers ignored Gray's repeated pleas for medical attention, Mosby said.
Six Baltimore officers charged in death of Gray one with murder - Yahoo News

We know this, how? From the same witness who said Mike Brown had his hands up?

"We know this, how? From the same witness who said Mike Brown had his hands up?"-Ernie S

Wow, that guy gets around. Based on this witness's history of being present at two murders of innocent people, I think dots need to be connected.
Not only that, if I ever see that guy, I'm running away as fast as I can. With these kind of odds, I could become a victim real fast.

 

[Kosh]

She was a cheerleader for the brain dead thugs. My question is why was Freddy the freeloader unable to walk to the wagon...he had to be dragged...wassup wid dat, yo...

So, you really ARE that stupid, eh?

They beat the shit out of him until he couldn't walk any more.

Then they shackled him and threw him in the vehicle, stomach down, head first, without strapping him in.

Yepp, your racist side shines through, as always. Yer a Rightie.

Your doing your hero Hitler proud!

Typical far left drone!

 

[aaronleland]

Most cruel and unusual....

Did the officers even HEAR Freddie's supposed calls for medical help?

I am sure he did........

How do we know this? Those paddy-wagons are pretty loud, aren't they? Was there a wall between the driver and his prisoners? Just asking.

I work in a steel mill. Everything is pretty loud. I'd still hear a dying man screaming, and I have.

The one in NE Arkansas?

No. The one in Harrisburg PA.

 

[Moonglow]

Did the officers even HEAR Freddie's supposed calls for medical help?

I am sure he did........

How do we know this? Those paddy-wagons are pretty loud, aren't they? Was there a wall between the driver and his prisoners? Just asking.

I work in a steel mill. Everything is pretty loud. I'd still hear a dying man screaming, and I have.

The one in NE Arkansas?

No. The one in Harrisburg PA.

The new one they built in NE Ark, started at 75k a year...I wish I could do that....

 

[Kosh]

Officers cuffed Gray's hands behind his back and shackled his legs but did not secure him with a seatbelt while the van was moving, a violation of police department policy. Then, with "depraved indifference," officers ignored Gray's repeated pleas for medical attention, Mosby said.
Six Baltimore officers charged in death of Gray one with murder - Yahoo News

We know this, how? From the same witness who said Mike Brown had his hands up?

"We know this, how? From the same witness who said Mike Brown had his hands up?"-Ernie S

Wow, that guy gets around. Based on this witness's history of being present at two murders of innocent people, I think dots need to be connected.
Not only that, if I ever see that guy, I'm running away as fast as I can. With these kind of odds, I could become a victim real fast.

See the far left drones as they deflect things!

It is finny how the far left mayor and the far left have charged these officers with crimes and have not released the evidence as to why..

It I s apolitical ploy!

If this city had anything other a far left mayor, even charging them with criminal charges would still not be enough. They would want all the evidence released to the public as well..