Redistribution of wealth is not charity.

[Bern80]

The hell with wealth redistribution!

What we need is fair wealth distribution.

People should be paid on scale with the productive value of their work.

That would mean that the lion's share of the wealth would go to the working class, not the owners.

We can live without lawyers (quite happily), but we can't survive without ditch diggers.

You are already deciding what is most valuable by where you spend your money. That's the thing about the free market. YOU the consumer ultimately decide who gets paid how much.

 

[rightwinger]

When are going to learn that simply insisting something does not make it so. And you're a weasel on top of that. You change the subject so you don't have to admit to being wrong. You were called out on the so called bazarr definition fo redstribution even though your so called bazarr definition is the one that's in the dictionary and you continue to avoid citing any specific way the rich are taking money from the poor.

When you get done mustering the integrity to admit you're wrong about that you can move on to citing the section of the constitution that allows government to to take from some and give to others for whatever they feel like.

Whining does not make you right

You have no concept of what a redistribution of wealth is. Just a hint....it has
little to do with providing welfare to the needy

Your perception of the applicability of our Constitution is nonsense. You are not taking from some and distributing to others. Congress has the authority to collect taxes and decide how those taxes will be collected. They also have the authority to obligate the utilization of those finds.

Do you notice you can't back up any of your bullshit?

My concept of redistribution is the one in the dictionary. What's yours?

And yes you are taking from some and giving to others. The money to give to people who don't have enough money has to be taken from people who do. Money is taken from one group and REDISTRIBUTED to another. Really hard concept for you to grasp clearly.

Yes congress has the authority to collect taxes but even a loose interpretation of the general welfare clause says those funds need to be spent for the general welfare. As in betterment of everyone, not just those that don't spend money.

Let me see......so money is taken from one group and REDISTRIBUTED to another

Now, which group in our society is gaining wealth and which is losing wealth?

 

[Dr Grump]

I just love it when you talk about people getting their fair share, and neocons call it wealth distribution. However, when the wealthy gather in all their gold coins and bars, it's called getting what they deserve......To me it is just wealth distribution, but the rich get it...

 

[Stephanie]

No.... your premise is wrong.. your wealth belongs to you.. you know... private property rights (things you socialists hate).... You do not get to rob Peter to pay Paul by your mighty governmental hand for your own touchy feelings

fuck off Midcan with your hippie commune bullshit

No, you are wrong

You belong to a society. You are expected to contribute to society and the society as a whole, decides how best to use those contributions

Every American does better as a part of a society than they would do as an individual

wow, just wow...so I not only have to WORK to provide for my family, I'm suppose to WORK to take care of everybody else?
since this is how it is suppose to be, I'm still waiting for your paychecks I said pretty please for.

 

[The T]

Charity would be providing a place for the needy to stay. Redistribution of wealth provides government housing. Charity provides a food line for the poor. Redistribution of wealth provides hundreds of dollars in food stamps. Charity is usually unpleasant yet effective in taking care of the poor. The poor still wish to get out of poverty. Redistribution tries to provide a poor person what everyone else has and makes it as comfortable as possible for those that participate. Most become complacent and no longer try to better themselves. Persons receiving charity are usually grateful for the shelter and food they receive. Those receiving redistribution feel entitled and usually are unhappy and complain it is not enough.

Charity is to help those that are needy and help them get on their own two feet. Redistribution of wealth is taking from someone to give to someone else. Redistribution will never be a good thing as it creates spoiled individuals that feel just being an American entitles them to what they believe is theirs.

Only hundreds of dollars in foodstamps? Really?

Government is NOT allowed to use taxmoney garnered under force of arms to give to other individuals that haven't figured out thier liberty.

Try again.

 

[The T]

No.... your premise is wrong.. your wealth belongs to you.. you know... private property rights (things you socialists hate).... You do not get to rob Peter to pay Paul by your mighty governmental hand for your own touchy feelings

fuck off Midcan with your hippie commune bullshit

No, you are wrong

You belong to a society. You are expected to contribute to society and the society as a whole, decides how best to use those contributions

Every American does better as a part of a society than they would do as an individual

wow, just wow...so I not only have to WORK to provide for my family, I'm suppose to WORK to take care of everybody else?
since this is how it is suppose to be, I'm still waiting for your paychecks I said pretty please for.

RW said so...as a Gubmint employee...so his words must carry weight...No?

 

[Bern80]

Whining does not make you right

You have no concept of what a redistribution of wealth is. Just a hint....it has
little to do with providing welfare to the needy

Your perception of the applicability of our Constitution is nonsense. You are not taking from some and distributing to others. Congress has the authority to collect taxes and decide how those taxes will be collected. They also have the authority to obligate the utilization of those finds.

Do you notice you can't back up any of your bullshit?

My concept of redistribution is the one in the dictionary. What's yours?

And yes you are taking from some and giving to others. The money to give to people who don't have enough money has to be taken from people who do. Money is taken from one group and REDISTRIBUTED to another. Really hard concept for you to grasp clearly.

Yes congress has the authority to collect taxes but even a loose interpretation of the general welfare clause says those funds need to be spent for the general welfare. As in betterment of everyone, not just those that don't spend money.

Let me see......so money is taken from one group and REDISTRIBUTED to another

Now, which group in our society is gaining wealth and which is losing wealth?

Good god it's like explaining things to a 5 year old. The reason the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer is NOT wealth redistribution is because money the rich aren't getting richer through money being TAKEN from the poor.

Wealth being taken from the rich and given to the poor is wealth redistribution because money is being reallocated involunatrily from one group to another.

Do you get it yet?

 

[The T]

Do you notice you can't back up any of your bullshit?

My concept of redistribution is the one in the dictionary. What's yours?

And yes you are taking from some and giving to others. The money to give to people who don't have enough money has to be taken from people who do. Money is taken from one group and REDISTRIBUTED to another. Really hard concept for you to grasp clearly.

Yes congress has the authority to collect taxes but even a loose interpretation of the general welfare clause says those funds need to be spent for the general welfare. As in betterment of everyone, not just those that don't spend money.

Let me see......so money is taken from one group and REDISTRIBUTED to another

Now, which group in our society is gaining wealth and which is losing wealth?

Good god it's like explaining things to a 5 year old. The reason the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer is NOT wealth redistribution is because money the rich aren't getting richer through money being TAKEN from the poor.

Wealth being taken from the rich and given to the poor is wealth redistribution because money is being reallocated involunatrily from one group to another.

Do you get it yet?

Of course he does. HE works for Gubmint...therefore HE is threatened.

 

[rightwinger]

No.... your premise is wrong.. your wealth belongs to you.. you know... private property rights (things you socialists hate).... You do not get to rob Peter to pay Paul by your mighty governmental hand for your own touchy feelings

fuck off Midcan with your hippie commune bullshit

No, you are wrong

You belong to a society. You are expected to contribute to society and the society as a whole, decides how best to use those contributions

Every American does better as a part of a society than they would do as an individual

wow, just wow...so I not only have to WORK to provide for my family, I'm suppose to WORK to take care of everybody else?
since this is how it is suppose to be, I'm still waiting for your paychecks I said pretty please for.

Yes you are...

Just like people work to help support you, your children and grandchildren. We are a society. We are stronger as a whole than as a group of individuals who only look out for themselves

 

[Full-Auto]

No, you are wrong

You belong to a society. You are expected to contribute to society and the society as a whole, decides how best to use those contributions

Every American does better as a part of a society than they would do as an individual

wow, just wow...so I not only have to WORK to provide for my family, I'm suppose to WORK to take care of everybody else?
since this is how it is suppose to be, I'm still waiting for your paychecks I said pretty please for.

Yes you are...

Just like people work to help support you, your children and grandchildren. We are a society. We are stronger as a whole than as a group of individuals who only look out for themselves

The main opposition is management of those policies. If accounting standards are so poor an audit is useless, that makes a strong argument.

 

[gallantwarrior]

wealth inequity is unsustainable.

It kills every country that ignores it.

Read history

Suck ass, you liberal shitbag! I am so tired of your shit. You pollute every single thread with your bullshit liberalism...

 

[Intense]

Let me see......so money is taken from one group and REDISTRIBUTED to another

Now, which group in our society is gaining wealth and which is losing wealth?

Good god it's like explaining things to a 5 year old. The reason the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer is NOT wealth redistribution is because money the rich aren't getting richer through money being TAKEN from the poor.

Wealth being taken from the rich and given to the poor is wealth redistribution because money is being reallocated involunatrily from one group to another.

Do you get it yet?

Of course he does. HE works for Gubmint...therefore HE is threatened.

Threatened? Not as long as they have us by the balls. We are the buffer between Government Workers and Poverty, as long as they can tax us to pay for their Salary, Benefits, and Retirement. Hey RW! When was the last time you contributed a penny towards my personal interests? I thought so. Never mind.

 

[The T]

No, you are wrong

You belong to a society. You are expected to contribute to society and the society as a whole, decides how best to use those contributions

Every American does better as a part of a society than they would do as an individual

wow, just wow...so I not only have to WORK to provide for my family, I'm suppose to WORK to take care of everybody else?
since this is how it is suppose to be, I'm still waiting for your paychecks I said pretty please for.

Yes you are...

Just like people work to help support you, your children and grandchildren. We are a society. We are stronger as a whole than as a group of individuals who only look out for themselves

They do? I always thought an individual payed thier OWN WAY and were guaranteed that right via the Constitution.

You are so wrong on so many levels...but YOU are a Statist group-Think asswipe that thinks charity comes from government, and not form other individuals that are made to contribute at the point of a gun.

~Go Figure.

YOU are lost RightwingShitFlinger...

 

[Intense]

Every Time Government tries to Legislate or Dictate Providence we all lose.

 

[The T]

Every Time Government tries to Legislate or Dictate Providence we all lose.

Amen Brother.

 

[rightwinger]

Do you notice you can't back up any of your bullshit?

My concept of redistribution is the one in the dictionary. What's yours?

And yes you are taking from some and giving to others. The money to give to people who don't have enough money has to be taken from people who do. Money is taken from one group and REDISTRIBUTED to another. Really hard concept for you to grasp clearly.

Yes congress has the authority to collect taxes but even a loose interpretation of the general welfare clause says those funds need to be spent for the general welfare. As in betterment of everyone, not just those that don't spend money.

Let me see......so money is taken from one group and REDISTRIBUTED to another

Now, which group in our society is gaining wealth and which is losing wealth?

Good god it's like explaining things to a 5 year old. The reason the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer is NOT wealth redistribution is because money the rich aren't getting richer through money being TAKEN from the poor.

Wealth being taken from the rich and given to the poor is wealth redistribution because money is being reallocated involunatrily from one group to another.

Do you get it yet?

Now you are being childish

Since the Reagan revolution worker protections have eroded for the benefit of the wealthy. The amount that the wealthy are expected to contribute to the society has been repeatedly reduced. More income and wealth is protected

All this was done under the guise of trickle down economics. Provide more money at the top and watch it trickle down to the workers in the form of more jobs and a rising economic tide

Guess what happened? The wealthy just kept the extra money

Shocking isn't it?

 

[gallantwarrior]

Look at history.

when any country (no matter if kings or democracy) has too much wealth inequity they are distroyed by revolution.

Please go read some history

Ahem, why don't you go read some history. Socialism has failed, miserably, wherever and whenever it has been tried. Oh, I forget, you do not appear able to read. Sorry...my bad!

 

[rightwinger]

wow, just wow...so I not only have to WORK to provide for my family, I'm suppose to WORK to take care of everybody else?
since this is how it is suppose to be, I'm still waiting for your paychecks I said pretty please for.

Yes you are...

Just like people work to help support you, your children and grandchildren. We are a society. We are stronger as a whole than as a group of individuals who only look out for themselves

They do? I always thought an individual payed thier OWN WAY and were guaranteed that right via the Constitution.

You are so wrong on so many levels...but YOU are a Statist group-Think asswipe that thinks charity comes from government, and not form other individuals that are made to contribute at the point of a gun.

~Go Figure.

YOU are lost RightwingShitFlinger...

No, you don't pay your own way.

In a society, most expenses are expected to be born by the individual. However, many expenses are best paid for by society. Public infrastructure, public safety, education and welfare are all better suited for the government

 

[Intense]

Let me see......so money is taken from one group and REDISTRIBUTED to another

Now, which group in our society is gaining wealth and which is losing wealth?

Good god it's like explaining things to a 5 year old. The reason the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer is NOT wealth redistribution is because money the rich aren't getting richer through money being TAKEN from the poor.

Wealth being taken from the rich and given to the poor is wealth redistribution because money is being reallocated involunatrily from one group to another.

Do you get it yet?

Now you are being childish

Since the Reagan revolution worker protections have eroded for the benefit of the wealthy. The amount that the wealthy are expected to contribute to the society has been repeatedly reduced. More income and wealth is protected

All this was done under the guise of trickle down economics. Provide more money at the top and watch it trickle down to the workers in the form of more jobs and a rising economic tide

Guess what happened? The wealthy just kept the extra money

Shocking isn't it?

So it shouldn't be shocking when We see Government Employee's imitating that, huh? When is enough, enough with you guys?

 

[Intense]

Yes you are...

Just like people work to help support you, your children and grandchildren. We are a society. We are stronger as a whole than as a group of individuals who only look out for themselves

They do? I always thought an individual payed thier OWN WAY and were guaranteed that right via the Constitution.

You are so wrong on so many levels...but YOU are a Statist group-Think asswipe that thinks charity comes from government, and not form other individuals that are made to contribute at the point of a gun.

~Go Figure.

YOU are lost RightwingShitFlinger...

No, you don't pay your own way.

In a society, most expenses are expected to be born by the individual. However, many expenses are best paid for by society. Public infrastructure, public safety, education and welfare are all better suited for the government

That's why Government contracts out so much when the shit hits the fan. Got it.