Reagan: "the RIGHT to belong to a free trade union...

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Reagan: "the most elemental human rights—the right to belong to a free trade union...

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Ronald Reagan-Address to the Nation on Christmas and the Situation in Poland (December 23, 1981) - YouTube


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkKVYjw1Ehc"]Ronald Reagan-Address to the Nation on Christmas and the Situation in Poland (December 23, 1981) - YouTube[/ame]


President Reagan discusses the tragic events that have occurred in Poland at the hands of the Polish government, which he suspects is influenced by the Soviet Union. He warns the Polish government of severe consequences if they should continue to disregard the human rights of its citizens.

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[Jroc]

So.... Whats your point? Everyone has the right to form a union here, Now in MI we have the right not to be forced to join a union....Lech Walesa supported Romney not Obama

 

[Politico]

Yes everyone should have the right to choose to join a union. Not sure what the point is.

 

[Avatar4321]

Has anyone said people don't have a right to join a union if they chose to?

 

[Star]

Yes everyone should have the right to choose to join a union. Not sure what the point is.

I agree everyone should have the right to join a union - do you know, Walmart's CEO -takes- 717 times more then the average non-union worker who -makes- on average $8.81/hr? (I wonder who negotiated that contract?)


Join the union or-----or in MI you can now 'take' all the services of union representation without 'make-ing' the payment for union services -- It's like in MI, you think you can now eat lunch but-----but for some weird reason you and other free riders expect your fellow lunch counter sitters to pick up their own tab and-----and YOUR tab too, WTF? -takers-pewsh!-


Republicans are a strange breed, they support free riders whether it be receiving union benefits for free, or receiving healthcare without paying for their fair share of the cost, or red states getting back more federal dollars than they put in, and so on, and so on, and so... while simultaneously whining about... about damn near everything.
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[LoneLaugher]

So.... Whats your point? Everyone has the right to form a union here, Now in MI we have the right not to be forced to join a union....Lech Walesa supported Romney not Obama

Are you lying or are you uninformed?

The people of Michigan have always had the right NOT to be forced to join a union.

What percentage of workers innMichigan are, in fact, union members? Was this number 100% before their butthurt GOP legislators fucked them?

 

[PratchettFan]

So.... Whats your point? Everyone has the right to form a union here, Now in MI we have the right not to be forced to join a union....Lech Walesa supported Romney not Obama

I suppose what might be a point is both Reagan and later Heston, those two liberal scamps, were both presidents of the Screen Actors Guild. Try to get a job in a film as an actor without a SAG card.

Personally, I would never join a union. But what you have in MI right now is government interference with business. So I guess we have established that this is acceptable. I'm glad that argument is over.

 

[Jroc]

So.... Whats your point? Everyone has the right to form a union here, Now in MI we have the right not to be forced to join a union....Lech Walesa supported Romney not Obama

Are you lying or are you uninformed?

The people of Michigan have always had the right NOT to be forced to join a union.

What percentage of workers innMichigan are, in fact, union members? Was this number 100% before their butthurt GOP legislators fucked them?

If it was a union shop you had to be in the union to work there , if there was no union of course you wouldn't have to be in a union...moron

 

[Mr Natural]

Reagan was an actor.

He didn't have his own thoughts; he just read what his handlers put in front of him and made it sound convincing.

 

[Katzndogz]

There should be a right to join a union. And a right not to join a union and if you don't join a union, you shouldn't have to pay union dues.

 

[PratchettFan]

So.... Whats your point? Everyone has the right to form a union here, Now in MI we have the right not to be forced to join a union....Lech Walesa supported Romney not Obama

Are you lying or are you uninformed?

The people of Michigan have always had the right NOT to be forced to join a union.

What percentage of workers innMichigan are, in fact, union members? Was this number 100% before their butthurt GOP legislators fucked them?

If it was a union shop you had to be in the union to work there , if there was no union of course you wouldn't have to be in a union...moron

True. But the decision as to whether or not to be a union shop was not made by the union, it was made by the business. There was no law requiring the business be a union shop. So now the government is telling the business how they must operate.

I notice in your tag line you have a quote from Reagan about a limited government. How does this fit in with that quote?

 

[Jroc]

Reagan was an actor.

He didn't have his own thoughts; he just read what his handlers put in front of him and made it sound convincing.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY]"A Time for Choosing" by Ronald Reagan - YouTube[/ame]

Reagan, in His Own Hand

From 1975 to 1979, Ronald Reagan wrote more than 600 radio addresses in his own hand, planning every plank in what would become his presidential platform. Herewith, a sampling of classic Reagan, compiled by Hoover fellows Kiron K. Skinner, Annelise Anderson, and Martin Anderson.

http://www.hoover.org/publications/hoover-digest/article/6861

 

[TNHarley]

Reagan was an actor.

He didn't have his own thoughts; he just read what his handlers put in front of him and made it sound convincing.

Did he ever get on The View or Letterman?

 

[PratchettFan]

There should be a right to join a union. And a right not to join a union and if you don't join a union, you shouldn't have to pay union dues.

There is not a single state in this country which requires you join a union.

 

[Jroc]

There should be a right to join a union. And a right not to join a union and if you don't join a union, you shouldn't have to pay union dues.

There is not a single state in this country which requires you join a union.

It’s not the state, it is the union and the employers...Boy you people are idiots

 

[Truthmatters]

how do you get FREE representation?

by making laws that alloiw people to recieve a benifit without paying for it.

That is what the republicans have now done to unions.


Are the people who get to be in a union and NOT pay any dues get to accept the pay raises the Union negociates or do they have to turn them down?

 

[NYcarbineer]

There should be a right to join a union. And a right not to join a union and if you don't join a union, you shouldn't have to pay union dues.

Should you have a right to a union job at an employer who has agreed to a union contract if you don't pay union dues?

(btw, nobody here on the right cares, but there is a difference between union dues and agency fees; I'm using the term union dues because the simpletons on the right are ineducable)

 

[NYcarbineer]

Has anyone said people don't have a right to join a union if they chose to?

Approximately one zillion rightwing posters on USMB have said that public sector unions should be abolished, outlawed, or otherwise prevented in some manner.

So the answer is 'yes'.

 

[Old Rocks]

I suspect the first thing you will see in a new Right to Work state is the rapid attrition of union members in the companies that pushed for the law. They can always find a reason for a layoff, reduction in force, or a 'position no longer needed'. That is the whole reason for the law. It is to bust unions, and destroy the workers bargaining position.

 

[PratchettFan]

There should be a right to join a union. And a right not to join a union and if you don't join a union, you shouldn't have to pay union dues.

There is not a single state in this country which requires you join a union.

It’s not the state, it is the union and the employers...Boy you people are idiots

So you are saying an employer should not have the right to decide who they will employ or under what conditions. That should be controlled by the government. Isn't that socialism?