Questions for Tea Partiers

IndependntLogic

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I moved to Nevada from Houston a while back. Houston is great. It is also mostly Conservative. Not Conservative like I see today but more like Reagan / Bush era Conservative. I liked that.
So when we got here, a new friend invited me to one of these Tea Party meetings. It was actually a Tea Party in that they served tea but it might have been accurately called a Tea Soda & Beer Party. It was nice and seemed as social as political. Lots of people who knew each other and hated Obama - whom they all seemed to actually believe is both Kenyan and Muslim.
My friend asked what I thought afterward (he was obviously in recruiting mode) and I ended up on this and two other boards.
So I'd like to get some clarification from Tea Partiers as there seems to be a lot of conflicting or even self-contradictng posts.
1. One poster claims the ONLY thing the TP is concerned about is the budget. I don't find this credible. What say you?
2. Lots of you claim you want to return to a Constitutional government. The problem I have is that you all seem to believe that only your interpretation of the Constitution is the right one. Ex: I asked about owning a machine gun, RPG or Nuke under the 2nd Amendment. Three TP's who agreed with each other all responded. They gave three different responses and reasons why. Then they all claimed the USC never needs to be interpreted. Connect those dots..
3. Do you believe Obama is a Kenyan? Muslim? Really?
4. Would you overturn Roe v Wade?
5. Would you close all our foreign military bases? Most? Some? None? THis is an area you guys seem pretty diverse on.
6. The list a government agencies you would eliminate is also quite varied. EPA? CIA? USDA? FAA? I don't find any of those UnConstitutional and although I know there is waste and inefficiency, would keep them all. I can explain my reasoning and if you disagree, guess what? That doesn't mean you're "an ignorant statists libtard socialist!" or whatever. But I'm curious as to how extensive a list you have.
7. So. Can I go get my Rocket Propelled Grenade launcher now? They had cannons back in the FF's day! How about mounting a .50 cal on my upstairs porch overlooking the street? My own personal nuke?
8. Health Care. Hmm. I think ObamaCare sucks balls. What would you do about healtch care for the poor? Anything? Nothing? Soylent Green?
9. Gay Marriage. Will it make you gay? Do you not care?
10. Gays in Military. Will our troops become sissies?
11. Taxes. Flat tax? Fair tax? Thumb tax?
12. Do you think Michelle Bachmann was correct when she said the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to abolish slavery?
13. Do you think Sarah Palin is unfairly attacked by the Media?
14. Do you think FOX is too liberal? Fair and unbiased? Has a Conservative agenda?
15. Do you think any of our problems are in part, the fault of Bush?
16. How about that water-boarding!
17. Was the debt ceiling thing all the Dems fault?
18. Do you think Job Creators like Big Oil and MNE's should get special tax breaks or subsidies that other companies do not? Why?
19. Is America a Christian Nation? What does that mean?
20. How about PAC and lobbyist contributions? Keep em secret?

These are some of the things where you guys seem to have more diversity of views. I've seen TP's who have as much disdain for Bush as Obama - well almost. There are TP's who don't care what gays do or where. Others want to send them to camps to get cured by God. It's all over the place.
So you can just go with Yes or No but I came here to learn about you guys and so far, I've found out I'm a Liberal because I don't think carrying an M-4 into my local pub is a good idea. LOTS of tongue in cheek here folks - btw, if you guys didn't get so instantly pissed off at everyone who disagreed with you, you would get much more attentive ears. Have a little humor!
 
Dont get me started, how about the fiscally conservative socially liberal types...

They are so smug they think they deserve two votes.


:cuckoo:
 
See why I have no patience for Independents or Moderates?

Yeah you're right. All we do is decide every election anyway. So the first two responses are?

Dodges? Implied insults? Any answers to any direct questions on issues? Not yet.

Seems like anger and pouting can get you guys momentum for a while but eventually at least a tad of substance would be helpful.

Here, let me reverse the situation. Ask me my view on any issue or subject. I will answer directly and specifically. Us darn Independents are like that!
 
See why I have no patience for Independents or Moderates?

Yeah you're right. All we do is decide every election anyway. So the first two responses are?

Dodges? Implied insults? Any answers to any direct questions on issues? Not yet.

Seems like anger and pouting can get you guys momentum for a while but eventually at least a tad of substance would be helpful.

Here, let me reverse the situation. Ask me my view on any issue or subject. I will answer directly and specifically. Us darn Independents are like that!

I'm not a politician so I don't give a fuck what you "Think" about anything.

I can't imagine living in a Free country undergoing a Progressive Jihad as we are now and going, "Gee, What's this? Golly, what's that? Oh, I just don't know"

Want substance? Get in the fucking game before we lose our country!!! Figure the fuck out what side your own, no better first figure out what the sides are, but I'm sure the war will be over by the time you do
 
See why I have no patience for Independents or Moderates?

They're nuanced to the point of being paralyzed with indecision.

Can they really be THAT clueless? Is it physically possible?

Wow! You little girls are really scared sh1tless of a few questions!

How cute. I guess you girls can all congratulate yourselves on your pretty little pink tea party dresses and do what is predictible of you:
Dodge the issues.
Insult anyone with the audacity (love using that word with you girls) to ask you about the issues.
Change the subject.
Cut & Run.

But if you want to see how a man handles a direct question, just ask me anything. Be happy to show you how it's done. Then maybe you girls can man up a little. :lol:
 
I moved to Nevada from Houston a while back. Houston is great. It is also mostly Conservative. Not Conservative like I see today but more like Reagan / Bush era Conservative. I liked that.
So when we got here, a new friend invited me to one of these Tea Party meetings. It was actually a Tea Party in that they served tea but it might have been accurately called a Tea Soda & Beer Party. It was nice and seemed as social as political. Lots of people who knew each other and hated Obama - whom they all seemed to actually believe is both Kenyan and Muslim.
My friend asked what I thought afterward (he was obviously in recruiting mode) and I ended up on this and two other boards.
So I'd like to get some clarification from Tea Partiers as there seems to be a lot of conflicting or even self-contradictng posts.
1. One poster claims the ONLY thing the TP is concerned about is the budget. I don't find this credible. What say you?
2. Lots of you claim you want to return to a Constitutional government. The problem I have is that you all seem to believe that only your interpretation of the Constitution is the right one. Ex: I asked about owning a machine gun, RPG or Nuke under the 2nd Amendment. Three TP's who agreed with each other all responded. They gave three different responses and reasons why. Then they all claimed the USC never needs to be interpreted. Connect those dots..
3. Do you believe Obama is a Kenyan? Muslim? Really?
4. Would you overturn Roe v Wade?
5. Would you close all our foreign military bases? Most? Some? None? THis is an area you guys seem pretty diverse on.
6. The list a government agencies you would eliminate is also quite varied. EPA? CIA? USDA? FAA? I don't find any of those UnConstitutional and although I know there is waste and inefficiency, would keep them all. I can explain my reasoning and if you disagree, guess what? That doesn't mean you're "an ignorant statists libtard socialist!" or whatever. But I'm curious as to how extensive a list you have.
7. So. Can I go get my Rocket Propelled Grenade launcher now? They had cannons back in the FF's day! How about mounting a .50 cal on my upstairs porch overlooking the street? My own personal nuke?
8. Health Care. Hmm. I think ObamaCare sucks balls. What would you do about healtch care for the poor? Anything? Nothing? Soylent Green?
9. Gay Marriage. Will it make you gay? Do you not care?
10. Gays in Military. Will our troops become sissies?
11. Taxes. Flat tax? Fair tax? Thumb tax?
12. Do you think Michelle Bachmann was correct when she said the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to abolish slavery?
13. Do you think Sarah Palin is unfairly attacked by the Media?
14. Do you think FOX is too liberal? Fair and unbiased? Has a Conservative agenda?
15. Do you think any of our problems are in part, the fault of Bush?
16. How about that water-boarding!
17. Was the debt ceiling thing all the Dems fault?
18. Do you think Job Creators like Big Oil and MNE's should get special tax breaks or subsidies that other companies do not? Why?
19. Is America a Christian Nation? What does that mean?
20. How about PAC and lobbyist contributions? Keep em secret?

These are some of the things where you guys seem to have more diversity of views. I've seen TP's who have as much disdain for Bush as Obama - well almost. There are TP's who don't care what gays do or where. Others want to send them to camps to get cured by God. It's all over the place.
So you can just go with Yes or No but I came here to learn about you guys and so far, I've found out I'm a Liberal because I don't think carrying an M-4 into my local pub is a good idea. LOTS of tongue in cheek here folks - btw, if you guys didn't get so instantly pissed off at everyone who disagreed with you, you would get much more attentive ears. Have a little humor!

The people rallied from all spectrums with one common theme.

Fiscal sanity. That alone is the unifying quality.
 
See why I have no patience for Independents or Moderates?

They're nuanced to the point of being paralyzed with indecision.

We, Independents/Moderates make decisions at the ballot box, not based on what a narrow ideology tells us but more so by the issues.
We are the group that are the main target of the 100's of million dollar political ads. Those ads aren't certainly targeting the sheep who are already locked in the fold.
I'd say people who are absolutely married to their ideology are the ones who are incapable of making decisions, they let their ideology make the decisions for them. Thus the echo-chamber effect on these boards driven by shared common talking points.
 
They're nuanced to the point of being paralyzed with indecision.

Can they really be THAT clueless? Is it physically possible?

Wow! You little girls are really scared sh1tless of a few questions!

How cute. I guess you girls can all congratulate yourselves on your pretty little pink tea party dresses and do what is predictible of you:
Dodge the issues.
Insult anyone with the audacity (love using that word with you girls) to ask you about the issues.
Change the subject.
Cut & Run.

But if you want to see how a man handles a direct question, just ask me anything. Be happy to show you how it's done. Then maybe you girls can man up a little. :lol:

Here's one, what do you think of the Tea Party
 

The people rallied from all spectrums with one common theme.

Fiscal sanity. That alone is the unifying quality.

Thanks. You sound more like the people I met irl at the party. That does seem to be the unifying thread but when you read what posters here write, it seems many have no clue as to where the TP stands on a lot of issues. Or they just "know" that anyone disagreeing or asking questions is somehow intolerable (see above).

So of the 20 issues above, are there any others that you think the TP would have as it's platform? It seems to me that eliminating government agencies is one. While I agree with the concept, I do differ in which ones I would target. Whatcha think?
 
They're nuanced to the point of being paralyzed with indecision.

Can they really be THAT clueless? Is it physically possible?

Wow! You little girls are really scared sh1tless of a few questions!

How cute. I guess you girls can all congratulate yourselves on your pretty little pink tea party dresses and do what is predictible of you:
Dodge the issues.
Insult anyone with the audacity (love using that word with you girls) to ask you about the issues.
Change the subject.
Cut & Run.

But if you want to see how a man handles a direct question, just ask me anything. Be happy to show you how it's done. Then maybe you girls can man up a little. :lol:

Oh great, an independent, a moderate AND a misogynist. What a winning combination.
 
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Here's one, what do you think of the Tea Party

Part of the reason I'm here is to find out. Like I said originally, it's hard for outsiders to get a handle on you guys.
Think about it. Full Auto says the one thing is fiscal responsibility. I'm totally behind you guys on that.
Being what you call a "Liberal", I also believe unions have way too much power and many of them abuse it. I think Christians get an unfair shake. I'm a gun owner. I'm a business owner and thenk the employee tax is a double dip scam. There is a lot of common ground.

It is the overt hostility toward anyone who doesn't agree with you guys on every single issue evey single time, that concerns me. You are a rather prime example of it in this very thread.
Why so threatened by some Yes & No questions?

So while I think there is a lot of merit to the main message, there is also much whackjobbery to be found. Just like with Liberals or anyone else. At least with Liberals, I can say "What do you think about owning machine guns or RPGs?" And they will give me a straight forward answer. They're against it. They don't feel there's anything in the USC that supports it. I've ask TPs the same question and guess what happened? You need only look at your first response to this thread find out.
 

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