Question about this ongoing race war.

[S.J.]

Only 12.01% of Blacks are on welfare today. But I am curious as to why you think that Johnson's Great Society only benefitted Blacks.

Here we go again. They're 13% of the population and they collect 39% of the welfare. And I never said the GS was designed to benefit blacks. It was designed to keep them dependent, that's not benefiting them.

Johnson, the known racist, signed the Civil RIghts Bill into law.

What choice did he have? Veto it and lose the black vote forever, or sign it, put them on welfare, and buy their votes for the next 100 years (like he said).

 

[S.J.]

Abolitionists were Republicans, slave owners were Democrats, KKK was created to intimidate Republicans and blacks, Jim Crow laws were passed by Democrats. We've been through this many times before, it's history and the only people who dispute it are little shit flingers like you on message boards who can't debate an issue without flame baiting and personal attacks. Now you can go back to the grassy knoll and look for evidence to expose George H.W. Bush as Kennedy's assassin. So long, fuckface.

And there it is, running away again. I'm insulted that Frigid got the before I did.

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So you have nothing.
Stop the presses.

Moreover you seem to think lynching only went on in the South. Even though you were present for, and participating in, this thread -- where you tried desperately to shut it up.

I don't know why you would post a link to an old thread where you got your ass handed to you but I guess when you're that desperate you just throw whatever you can find, hoping something sticks. Kind of like your grassy knoll theory.

Hmm... actually I don't know any such thread. Looks to me like that one drew a bunch of thanks and agrees. Oh yeah and you, whining for it to go away and trying to float the same political party hackitude you tried to float here. And you failed back then too. Just imagine -- if you hadn't painted yourself into a corner back then, you'd have something to use now.

Matter o' fact, when I asked you the exact same question in post 7 of that thread, all you could come up with (post 10) was a Wiki page on what "lynching" means. Poor hack.

Which reminds me ..... Jeeves, see to our troll guest.

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And while you're chewing on that, I don't have a "grassy knoll theory". If I did you could quote it. But again ...... morass.

Are you sure you don't want to edit your post again? Posting pictures of butlers and asses doesn't do much to make your point, dick sucker, but that's the way you debate. No substance, no proof, no nothing, just personal attacks, diversions, and claims of winning arguments. Better regroup and try again tomorrow, amateur.

Don't wanna see Jeeves with Ass under Glass? Then don't bring it up.
Your ipse dixit fallacy failed then, and it still fails now. And while you probably don't see the pattern, it's gonna fail tomorrow too.

Then there's that grassy knoll....

You just proved what I said. No substance, no proof, no nothing, just personal attacks, diversions, and claims of winning arguments. You never have much to contribute to these threads, just a lot of shit flinging.

 

[Muhammed]

There is no "race war" going on, just a bunch of butthurt white people trying to convince other white people to become as racist as they are.

Could you explain the reasoning that you used to come to that conclusion?

The answer to your question can be found in the fact that the notion that there is a 'race war' is devoid of any 'reasoning' altogether.

You are using circular logic, DAN.

 

[Pogo]

President Wilson is widely considered as a progressive Democrat who introduced many liberal reforms but on the issue of race his legacy was regressive. Wilson was responsible for reversing the long-standing policy of racial integration in the federal civil service and he reintroduced racial segregation to make his fellow Southerners comfortable in Washington. Wilson also vetoed the racial equality clause proposed at the peace conference in Paris. It's said that Wilson was worried about the Klan which enthusiastically supported his party at the time.

Wilson was a racist asshole. But the Klan didn't even exist when he came into office. It got (re)started in 1915 (Wilson was elected 1912) and didn't grow to significant numbers until the 1920s. And when they finally did and started wielding political influence in the mid-'20s (two Presidents later) they got both Democrats and Republicans elected -- whatever worked in that time and place. And they also worked against both Democrats and Republicans when that suited their interests.

And they disrupted the Democratic conventions in those years (1924, 1928) to try to fend off their political enemies as I mentioned in post 199. They succeeded in 1924 and failed in 1928.

 

[JQPublic1]

Only 12.01% of Blacks are on welfare today. But I am curious as to why you think that Johnson's Great Society only benefitted Blacks.

Here we go again. They're 13% of the population and they collect 39% of the welfare. And I never said the GS was designed to benefit blacks. It was designed to keep them dependent, that's not benefiting them.

The GS entailed more than just welfare; poor white people and the rich benefitted more from it than anyone else with the additions of medicaid, medicare, and food stamps. But, to underline your idiocy: if only 12% of blacks receive welfare checks, that phrase: "keeping them dependent" rings hollow, doesn't it? Stupid jerk! 88%, the majority, are NOT dependent on welfare, stupid!

Johnson, the known racist, signed the Civil RIghts Bill into law.

What choice did he have? Veto it and lose the black vote forever, or sign it, put them on welfare, and buy their votes for the next 100 years (like he said).

So what happened when Reagan and the two shrubs were elected president? {I assume you are just talking about presidential elections.)
The black vote didn't seem to matter then; if the majority of blacks did indeed support the democratic candidate. And since the GOP had power in 20 of those last 50 years, why does that so-called "democrat plantation" still exist? Stupid!

 

[S.J.]

Only 12.01% of Blacks are on welfare today. But I am curious as to why you think that Johnson's Great Society only benefitted Blacks.

Here we go again. They're 13% of the population and they collect 39% of the welfare. And I never said the GS was designed to benefit blacks. It was designed to keep them dependent, that's not benefiting them.

The GS entailed more than just welfare; poor white people and the rich benefitted more from it than anyone else with the additions of medicaid, medicare, and food stamps. But, to underline your idiocy: if only 12% of blacks receive welfare checks, that phrase: "keeping them dependent" rings hollow, doesn't it? Stupid jerk! 88%, the majority, are NOT dependent on welfare, stupid!

Johnson, the known racist, signed the Civil RIghts Bill into law.

What choice did he have? Veto it and lose the black vote forever, or sign it, put them on welfare, and buy their votes for the next 100 years (like he said).

So what happened when Reagan and the two shrubs were elected president? {I assume you are just talking about presidential elections.)
The black vote didn't seem to matter then; if the majority of blacks did indeed support the democratic candidate. And since the GOP had power in 20 of those last 50 years, why does that so-called "democrat plantation" still exist? Stupid!

Presidents don't write or pass legislation (well, not until 2008 when we allowed this one to do it because he's black).

 

[JQPublic1]

Only 12.01% of Blacks are on welfare today. But I am curious as to why you think that Johnson's Great Society only benefitted Blacks.

Here we go again. They're 13% of the population and they collect 39% of the welfare. And I never said the GS was designed to benefit blacks. It was designed to keep them dependent, that's not benefiting them.

The GS entailed more than just welfare; poor white people and the rich benefitted more from it than anyone else with the additions of medicaid, medicare, and food stamps. But, to underline your idiocy: if only 12% of blacks receive welfare checks, that phrase: "keeping them dependent" rings hollow, doesn't it? Stupid jerk! 88%, the majority, are NOT dependent on welfare, stupid!

Johnson, the known racist, signed the Civil RIghts Bill into law.

What choice did he have? Veto it and lose the black vote forever, or sign it, put them on welfare, and buy their votes for the next 100 years (like he said).

So what happened when Reagan and the two shrubs were elected president? {I assume you are just talking about presidential elections.)
The black vote didn't seem to matter then; if the majority of blacks did indeed support the democratic candidate. And since the GOP had power in 20 of those last 50 years, why does that so-called "democrat plantation" still exist? Stupid!

Presidents don't write or pass legislation (well, not until 2008 when we allowed this one to do it because he's black).

Then what exactly do you mean by this:"What choice did he have? Veto it and lose the black vote forever, or sign it, put them on welfare, and buy their votes for the next 100 years (like he said)."

"PUT THEM ON WELFARE? " Is there another SJ around here? There must be, because I thought the one with the red cadillac ass just had his ass handed to him again!

 

[S.J.]

Only 12.01% of Blacks are on welfare today. But I am curious as to why you think that Johnson's Great Society only benefitted Blacks.

Here we go again. They're 13% of the population and they collect 39% of the welfare. And I never said the GS was designed to benefit blacks. It was designed to keep them dependent, that's not benefiting them.

The GS entailed more than just welfare; poor white people and the rich benefitted more from it than anyone else with the additions of medicaid, medicare, and food stamps. But, to underline your idiocy: if only 12% of blacks receive welfare checks, that phrase: "keeping them dependent" rings hollow, doesn't it? Stupid jerk! 88%, the majority, are NOT dependent on welfare, stupid!

Johnson, the known racist, signed the Civil RIghts Bill into law.

What choice did he have? Veto it and lose the black vote forever, or sign it, put them on welfare, and buy their votes for the next 100 years (like he said).

So what happened when Reagan and the two shrubs were elected president? {I assume you are just talking about presidential elections.)
The black vote didn't seem to matter then; if the majority of blacks did indeed support the democratic candidate. And since the GOP had power in 20 of those last 50 years, why does that so-called "democrat plantation" still exist? Stupid!

Presidents don't write or pass legislation (well, not until 2008 when we allowed this one to do it because he's black).

Then what exactly do you mean by this:"What choice did he have? Veto it and lose the black vote forever, or sign it, put them on welfare, and buy their votes for the next 100 years (like he said)."

"PUT THEM ON WELFARE? " Is there another SJ around here? There must be, because I thought the one with the red cadillac ass just had his ass handed to him again!

What did you smoke? You're rambling and you make absolutely no sense. Better sober up and come back when you can think straight.

 

[ThirdTerm]

The KKK was born in the aftermath of the Civil War in 1866. Congress passed the civil rights act of 1871 to help curtail the Klan's activities but the group still could infiltrate the highest levels of government. The propaganda film of the Klan titled “Birth of a Nation” was released in 1915 after President Wilson was elected and Wilson was the first President to screen the movie to glorify the Ku Klux Klan at the White House.

You need to know that Wilson was promoting terrorism through "art." The Ku Klux Klan was and is a terrorist organization, plain and simple. The Clansman was a recruitment picture for Jew-baiters. And it paid off. As a result, the Klan's membership skyrocketed. And, yes, Northern Democrats and Californians were packing cinemas.
Articles The KKK Hollywood and President Wilson

 

[JQPublic1]

Only 12.01% of Blacks are on welfare today. But I am curious as to why you think that Johnson's Great Society only benefitted Blacks.

Here we go again. They're 13% of the population and they collect 39% of the welfare. And I never said the GS was designed to benefit blacks. It was designed to keep them dependent, that's not benefiting them.

The GS entailed more than just welfare; poor white people and the rich benefitted more from it than anyone else with the additions of medicaid, medicare, and food stamps. But, to underline your idiocy: if only 12% of blacks receive welfare checks, that phrase: "keeping them dependent" rings hollow, doesn't it? Stupid jerk! 88%, the majority, are NOT dependent on welfare, stupid!

Johnson, the known racist, signed the Civil RIghts Bill into law.

What choice did he have? Veto it and lose the black vote forever, or sign it, put them on welfare, and buy their votes for the next 100 years (like he said).

So what happened when Reagan and the two shrubs were elected president? {I assume you are just talking about presidential elections.)
The black vote didn't seem to matter then; if the majority of blacks did indeed support the democratic candidate. And since the GOP had power in 20 of those last 50 years, why does that so-called "democrat plantation" still exist? Stupid!

Presidents don't write or pass legislation (well, not until 2008 when we allowed this one to do it because he's black).

Then what exactly do you mean by this:"What choice did he have? Veto it and lose the black vote forever, or sign it, put them on welfare, and buy their votes for the next 100 years (like he said)."

"PUT THEM ON WELFARE? " Is there another SJ around here? There must be, because I thought the one with the red cadillac ass just had his ass handed to him again!

What did you smoke? You're rambling and you make absolutely no sense. Better sober up and come back when you can think straight.

Fuck you. I'll take that as a concession that you can't answer the simple questions put to you! You stupidity is like the clap. The more political penicillin used to correct it, the more virulent it becomes. In other words, you are an incorrigible idiot. My hand hovers over the ignore button every time I see your avatar!

 

[S.J.]

Here we go again. They're 13% of the population and they collect 39% of the welfare. And I never said the GS was designed to benefit blacks. It was designed to keep them dependent, that's not benefiting them.

The GS entailed more than just welfare; poor white people and the rich benefitted more from it than anyone else with the additions of medicaid, medicare, and food stamps. But, to underline your idiocy: if only 12% of blacks receive welfare checks, that phrase: "keeping them dependent" rings hollow, doesn't it? Stupid jerk! 88%, the majority, are NOT dependent on welfare, stupid!

What choice did he have? Veto it and lose the black vote forever, or sign it, put them on welfare, and buy their votes for the next 100 years (like he said).

So what happened when Reagan and the two shrubs were elected president? {I assume you are just talking about presidential elections.)
The black vote didn't seem to matter then; if the majority of blacks did indeed support the democratic candidate. And since the GOP had power in 20 of those last 50 years, why does that so-called "democrat plantation" still exist? Stupid!

Presidents don't write or pass legislation (well, not until 2008 when we allowed this one to do it because he's black).

Then what exactly do you mean by this:"What choice did he have? Veto it and lose the black vote forever, or sign it, put them on welfare, and buy their votes for the next 100 years (like he said)."

"PUT THEM ON WELFARE? " Is there another SJ around here? There must be, because I thought the one with the red cadillac ass just had his ass handed to him again!

What did you smoke? You're rambling and you make absolutely no sense. Better sober up and come back when you can think straight.

Fuck you. I'll take that as a concession that you can't answer the simple questions put to you! You stupidity is like the clap. The more political penicillin used to correct it, the more virulent it becomes. In other words, you are an incorrigible idiot. My hand hovers over the ignore button every time I see your avatar!

What "simple question" would that be? All I'm seeing here is a lot of incoherent rambling. Ask a straight question and you'll get a straight answer. Load it up with a bunch of rhetorical bullshit statements and call it a question and I'll treat you accordingly. BTW, I'm wondering why you made a "clap" reference. You sound like you may have had it a couple of times. I'm not surprised.

 

[Taz]

This just in! News Flash! Blacks lost the race war!!!! Like... a long time ago.

 

[JQPublic1]

So what happened when Reagan and the two shrubs were elected president? {I assume you are just talking about presidential elections.)
The black vote didn't seem to matter then; if the majority of blacks did indeed support the democratic candidate. And since the GOP had power in 20 of those last 50 years, why does that so-called "democrat plantation" still exist? Stupid!

Presidents don't write or pass legislation (well, not until 2008 when we allowed this one to do it because he's black).

Then what exactly do you mean by this:"What choice did he have? Veto it and lose the black vote forever, or sign it, put them on welfare, and buy their votes for the next 100 years (like he said)."

"PUT THEM ON WELFARE? " Is there another SJ around here? There must be, because I thought the one with the red cadillac ass just had his ass handed to him again!

What did you smoke? You're rambling and you make absolutely no sense. Better sober up and come back when you can think straight.

Fuck you. I'll take that as a concession that you can't answer the simple questions put to you! You stupidity is like the clap. The more political penicillin used to correct it, the more virulent it becomes. In other words, you are an incorrigible idiot. My hand hovers over the ignore button every time I see your avatar!

What "simple question" would that be? All I'm seeing here is a lot of incoherent rambling. Ask a straight question and you'll get a straight answer. Load it up with a bunch of rhetorical bullshit statements and call it a question and I'll treat you accordingly. BTW, I'm wondering why you made a "clap" reference. You sound like you may have had it a couple of times. I'm not surprised.

Heh heh heh, bitch, you can't be a real person. You must be a computer generated idiot. No human can be so dumb they can't follow a simple dialogue. So long candy caddy ass!

 

[S.J.]

Presidents don't write or pass legislation (well, not until 2008 when we allowed this one to do it because he's black).

Then what exactly do you mean by this:"What choice did he have? Veto it and lose the black vote forever, or sign it, put them on welfare, and buy their votes for the next 100 years (like he said)."

"PUT THEM ON WELFARE? " Is there another SJ around here? There must be, because I thought the one with the red cadillac ass just had his ass handed to him again!

What did you smoke? You're rambling and you make absolutely no sense. Better sober up and come back when you can think straight.

Fuck you. I'll take that as a concession that you can't answer the simple questions put to you! You stupidity is like the clap. The more political penicillin used to correct it, the more virulent it becomes. In other words, you are an incorrigible idiot. My hand hovers over the ignore button every time I see your avatar!

What "simple question" would that be? All I'm seeing here is a lot of incoherent rambling. Ask a straight question and you'll get a straight answer. Load it up with a bunch of rhetorical bullshit statements and call it a question and I'll treat you accordingly. BTW, I'm wondering why you made a "clap" reference. You sound like you may have had it a couple of times. I'm not surprised.

Heh heh heh, bitch, you can't be a real person. You must be a computer generated idiot. No human can be so dumb they can't follow a simple dialogue. So long candy caddy ass!

Well that sure is a bitter concession speech. Your ass must really hurt. BTW, what's a "candy caddy ass"?

 

[katsteve2012]

Civil War ended and by the end of the year slavery was abolished. In the South the ex-slaves were suddenly free to move about, ask for fair wages, etc, and for this, in an already devastated economy, they were often whipped in public, attacked, beaten, lynched, even burned alive and/or skinned.

You read that correctly -- SKINNED. With the carcass left hanging in public. Another era our standard history books stop short of explaining, and then leave us to uninformed conclusions. Read some of the accounts from that time; it will make your teeth curl. Once that's understood, the practice of public lynchings made into postcards with body parts sold as souvenirs, at least shows a historical connection that begins to explain it didn't just generate from nothing.

Counting from the time black people were legally citizens, i.e. not counting treatment of individual slaves which goes back way before the country was formed, that's where the "race war" started.

All of which makes my sigline all the more dumbfounding.

Yep, and it was all done by racist Democrats.

Yep. Racist SOUTHERN Democrats who evolved into todays Republicans.

'Member what happened yesterday when Frigidweirdo called you out for making shit up you couldn't document? You ran away to Ignore so you wouldn't have to deal with it. That was some fun.

There's never been a race riot, anywhere, where some proctor stood at the gate checking participants for voter registration cards. If they had any at all.

Prove me wrong.

Abolitionists were Republicans, slave owners were Democrats, KKK was created to intimidate Republicans and blacks, Jim Crow laws were passed by Democrats. .[/Q

Yes. SOUTHERN Democrats.

Whenever the topic of racism gets brought up between Democrats and Republicans, there are two facts you’ll almost always hear conservatives use to counter the belief that their party is full of racism:
President Abraham Lincoln was a Republican
The KKK was largely organized, and populated by, Democrats
And both are facts.
But when someone uses these two items as their defense that the Republican party isn’t loaded with racism, they’re only showing their ignorance about the reality of racism within their party.
It’s true, Southern Democrats were extremely racist. At the same time, Northern “liberal” Democrats and Republicans had already been working together to end discrimination and pushed for ending segregation.
See, in 1948, President Harry Truman made one of the boldest public moves by a Democrat towards Civil Rights for African Americans by creating the President’s Committee on Civil Rights, and ending discrimination in the military. At the Democratic National Convention in 1948 a call was made for civil rights—prompting at least 35 Southern delegates to walk out.


These movements towards civil rights for African Americans spurred a short-lived political party — the States Rights Democratic Party, also known as the “Dixiecrats.” The people who comprised this movement adamantly defended segregation of the races. It was an attempt to keep the “tyrannical Northern liberals” from “destroying the freedom of states’ rights in the South.”
Luckily, this political party only lasted one election. But what this movement really did was recognize the shift of Democrats embracing equality for African Americans and Southern whites strongly opposing any mention of civil rights.
The moves by President Truman sparked the spread of equality in the South and left Southern white Democrats with a feeling that their party was abandoning their racist — and oppressive — system of beliefs.
Over the next decade, more and more Democrats began to embrace equality, passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. And while more African Americans began to vote for Democrats, in the late-1960′s a new Republican strategy was put into place—the “Southern strategy.”
This was a plan was that was first popularized by Richard Nixon.
What the “Southern strategy” essentially does is it identified the fact that African Americans were voting for Democrats, therefore Republicans decided they would make white voters more aware of this fact in hopes of driving the “white vote” towards the Republican party.
Doubt me? Let’s look at a comment from a 1970′s interview in the New York Times with Richard Nixon’s political strategist:
“From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don’t need any more than that…but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That’s where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.”
Essentially it was the Republican party saying, “Look, blacks are voting for Democrats so you white people need to vote for Republicans—the party that will represent whites and oppose the blacks.”


With this strategy, you saw the official shift of the Republican party from the “party of Lincoln” to the party which embraced white racism towards African Americans to solidify the white vote in the South.
So, yeah, it’s easy to say Lincoln was a Republican and the KKK was largely built by Democrats, but by doing so you only prove your own ignorance of history. You’re ignoring the fact that as Democrats evolved to embrace equality for African Americans, Southern racists were left looking for a new political party — and they found one that not only embraced their racism and bigotry, it sought it out.
And that party they found was the Republican party.

Nice fantasy, too bad it's all bullshit. I gave facts, you gave fiction.
Southern blacks voted Republican because Republicans were the ones who freed them from slavery. Democrats tried intimidation (KKK), but they still voted Republican, they passed racist laws (Jim Crow), but the Civil Rights Act (filibustered by Democrats and passed by Republicans) put an end to that. The only option the Democrats had was to BUY the black vote by making them dependent on government through welfare. That's when President Johnson (a known racist) started his "Great Society". It worked, why wouldn't it? Tear down their self esteem, destroy their family unit, make them feel like they can't achieve anything on their own, give them welfare and food stamps and an excuse for failure, then call Republicans racist for not going along with it. Heaven forbid those white devils should want blacks to stand on their own two feet like everybody else and participate in the American Dream.
You can hold onto your fantasy and repeat it at every opportunity if you want but you have no historical data to back it up. Everything I just said is verifiable. Face it, you've been used like pawns by the Democratic Party. They've been promising you freedom and prosperity for 50 years now and you're still at the bottom. You're still slaves on a plantation.

The abolishment of slavery, the Civil Rights Act, and all other anti discriminatory steps forward were accomplished by LIBERAL NORTHERN Democrats and Republicans.

None were exclusively accomplished by Republicans alone as you keep saying.

In fact, SOUTHERN Republicans were equally as opposed in their vote as SOUTHERN Democrats to the Civil Rights Act.

Your head is thicker than a brick wall.

And that's incredible in an age where information and facts are available to everyone.

 

[S.J.]

Yep, and it was all done by racist Democrats.

Yep. Racist SOUTHERN Democrats who evolved into todays Republicans.

'Member what happened yesterday when Frigidweirdo called you out for making shit up you couldn't document? You ran away to Ignore so you wouldn't have to deal with it. That was some fun.

There's never been a race riot, anywhere, where some proctor stood at the gate checking participants for voter registration cards. If they had any at all.

Prove me wrong.

Abolitionists were Republicans, slave owners were Democrats, KKK was created to intimidate Republicans and blacks, Jim Crow laws were passed by Democrats. .[/Q

Yes. SOUTHERN Democrats.

Whenever the topic of racism gets brought up between Democrats and Republicans, there are two facts you’ll almost always hear conservatives use to counter the belief that their party is full of racism:
President Abraham Lincoln was a Republican
The KKK was largely organized, and populated by, Democrats
And both are facts.
But when someone uses these two items as their defense that the Republican party isn’t loaded with racism, they’re only showing their ignorance about the reality of racism within their party.
It’s true, Southern Democrats were extremely racist. At the same time, Northern “liberal” Democrats and Republicans had already been working together to end discrimination and pushed for ending segregation.
See, in 1948, President Harry Truman made one of the boldest public moves by a Democrat towards Civil Rights for African Americans by creating the President’s Committee on Civil Rights, and ending discrimination in the military. At the Democratic National Convention in 1948 a call was made for civil rights—prompting at least 35 Southern delegates to walk out.


These movements towards civil rights for African Americans spurred a short-lived political party — the States Rights Democratic Party, also known as the “Dixiecrats.” The people who comprised this movement adamantly defended segregation of the races. It was an attempt to keep the “tyrannical Northern liberals” from “destroying the freedom of states’ rights in the South.”
Luckily, this political party only lasted one election. But what this movement really did was recognize the shift of Democrats embracing equality for African Americans and Southern whites strongly opposing any mention of civil rights.
The moves by President Truman sparked the spread of equality in the South and left Southern white Democrats with a feeling that their party was abandoning their racist — and oppressive — system of beliefs.
Over the next decade, more and more Democrats began to embrace equality, passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. And while more African Americans began to vote for Democrats, in the late-1960′s a new Republican strategy was put into place—the “Southern strategy.”
This was a plan was that was first popularized by Richard Nixon.
What the “Southern strategy” essentially does is it identified the fact that African Americans were voting for Democrats, therefore Republicans decided they would make white voters more aware of this fact in hopes of driving the “white vote” towards the Republican party.
Doubt me? Let’s look at a comment from a 1970′s interview in the New York Times with Richard Nixon’s political strategist:
“From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don’t need any more than that…but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That’s where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.”
Essentially it was the Republican party saying, “Look, blacks are voting for Democrats so you white people need to vote for Republicans—the party that will represent whites and oppose the blacks.”


With this strategy, you saw the official shift of the Republican party from the “party of Lincoln” to the party which embraced white racism towards African Americans to solidify the white vote in the South.
So, yeah, it’s easy to say Lincoln was a Republican and the KKK was largely built by Democrats, but by doing so you only prove your own ignorance of history. You’re ignoring the fact that as Democrats evolved to embrace equality for African Americans, Southern racists were left looking for a new political party — and they found one that not only embraced their racism and bigotry, it sought it out.
And that party they found was the Republican party.

Nice fantasy, too bad it's all bullshit. I gave facts, you gave fiction.
Southern blacks voted Republican because Republicans were the ones who freed them from slavery. Democrats tried intimidation (KKK), but they still voted Republican, they passed racist laws (Jim Crow), but the Civil Rights Act (filibustered by Democrats and passed by Republicans) put an end to that. The only option the Democrats had was to BUY the black vote by making them dependent on government through welfare. That's when President Johnson (a known racist) started his "Great Society". It worked, why wouldn't it? Tear down their self esteem, destroy their family unit, make them feel like they can't achieve anything on their own, give them welfare and food stamps and an excuse for failure, then call Republicans racist for not going along with it. Heaven forbid those white devils should want blacks to stand on their own two feet like everybody else and participate in the American Dream.
You can hold onto your fantasy and repeat it at every opportunity if you want but you have no historical data to back it up. Everything I just said is verifiable. Face it, you've been used like pawns by the Democratic Party. They've been promising you freedom and prosperity for 50 years now and you're still at the bottom. You're still slaves on a plantation.

The abolishment of slavery, the Civil Rights Act, and all other anti discriminatory steps forward were accomplished by LIBERAL NORTHERN Democrats and Republicans.

None were exclusively accomplished by Republicans alone as you keep saying.

In fact, SOUTHERN Republicans were equally as opposed in their vote as SOUTHERN Democrats to the Civil Rights Act.

Your head is thicker than a brick wall.

And that's incredible in an age where information and facts are available to everyone.

And once again, I give facts and you give fiction. You'll say just about anything to avoid assigning responsibility to your race for their own failures, including trying to change historic facts. Not only do you make up your own facts, you twist what I say as well, in an effort to avoid the truth.
First you say "Republicans" are the party of racism. I give you proof that Democrats are the racist party and always have been, and you say "Yeah, but they were conservative Democrats", as if that somehow makes them Republicans. Then you try to say Democrats and Republicans "switched parties". You think anybody buys that bullshit? All anyone has to do is look at how conservative blacks are treated by Democrats (not just registered Democrats but ELECTED OFFICIALS and leaders in the Democratic Party) and it's clear that they are STILL the party of racism. You, however, don't want to see that, you just keep spewing your bullshit talking points and keep your head buried in the sand, bitterly clinging to your fantasy and liberal/socialist narrative because you can't face the truth that you've been played for 50 years by the party you think gives a damn about you. Until you can come to terms with that reality, you will remain on the plantation.

 

[Swagger]

I know I get truly frustrated about it all. And angry. But I have never thought about "joining" a "white power" club or group or whatever and the reason I haven't even considered it is because hate just begets more hate so what is the purpose? It's kinda like the snake eating itself. There is no beginning and no end. BUT, the more the bad blacks keep this stoked, the more frustrated and angry I get. Until someone black comes along and speaks out against it ALL. Not just against whites...but against blacks as well even though they are dismissed as Uncle Toms. Regardless of what other blacks think of those speaking against this division, THEY are the ones that keep the scales almost balanced. Not all the way, but tippy toppy tippy toppy. When the scales hold still tilted...we are ALL fucked.

I've been involved - in some form or another - with several pro-White/Identitarian movements and, by and large, the American groups attract the worst kind of social outcast you can ask for: freaks, survivalists and redneck tattooists. But that seems to be a thing of the past since the rise of the Alternative Right, which seeks to inject European right-wing politics and tactics into the American right, which is protected by the First Amendment. Here's one of our gathering points:

Radix Journal

 

[katsteve2012]

Yep. Racist SOUTHERN Democrats who evolved into todays Republicans.

'Member what happened yesterday when Frigidweirdo called you out for making shit up you couldn't document? You ran away to Ignore so you wouldn't have to deal with it. That was some fun.

There's never been a race riot, anywhere, where some proctor stood at the gate checking participants for voter registration cards. If they had any at all.

Prove me wrong.

Abolitionists were Republicans, slave owners were Democrats, KKK was created to intimidate Republicans and blacks, Jim Crow laws were passed by Democrats. .[/Q

Yes. SOUTHERN Democrats.

Whenever the topic of racism gets brought up between Democrats and Republicans, there are two facts you’ll almost always hear conservatives use to counter the belief that their party is full of racism:
President Abraham Lincoln was a Republican
The KKK was largely organized, and populated by, Democrats
And both are facts.
But when someone uses these two items as their defense that the Republican party isn’t loaded with racism, they’re only showing their ignorance about the reality of racism within their party.
It’s true, Southern Democrats were extremely racist. At the same time, Northern “liberal” Democrats and Republicans had already been working together to end discrimination and pushed for ending segregation.
See, in 1948, President Harry Truman made one of the boldest public moves by a Democrat towards Civil Rights for African Americans by creating the President’s Committee on Civil Rights, and ending discrimination in the military. At the Democratic National Convention in 1948 a call was made for civil rights—prompting at least 35 Southern delegates to walk out.


These movements towards civil rights for African Americans spurred a short-lived political party — the States Rights Democratic Party, also known as the “Dixiecrats.” The people who comprised this movement adamantly defended segregation of the races. It was an attempt to keep the “tyrannical Northern liberals” from “destroying the freedom of states’ rights in the South.”
Luckily, this political party only lasted one election. But what this movement really did was recognize the shift of Democrats embracing equality for African Americans and Southern whites strongly opposing any mention of civil rights.
The moves by President Truman sparked the spread of equality in the South and left Southern white Democrats with a feeling that their party was abandoning their racist — and oppressive — system of beliefs.
Over the next decade, more and more Democrats began to embrace equality, passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. And while more African Americans began to vote for Democrats, in the late-1960′s a new Republican strategy was put into place—the “Southern strategy.”
This was a plan was that was first popularized by Richard Nixon.
What the “Southern strategy” essentially does is it identified the fact that African Americans were voting for Democrats, therefore Republicans decided they would make white voters more aware of this fact in hopes of driving the “white vote” towards the Republican party.
Doubt me? Let’s look at a comment from a 1970′s interview in the New York Times with Richard Nixon’s political strategist:
“From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don’t need any more than that…but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That’s where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.”
Essentially it was the Republican party saying, “Look, blacks are voting for Democrats so you white people need to vote for Republicans—the party that will represent whites and oppose the blacks.”


With this strategy, you saw the official shift of the Republican party from the “party of Lincoln” to the party which embraced white racism towards African Americans to solidify the white vote in the South.
So, yeah, it’s easy to say Lincoln was a Republican and the KKK was largely built by Democrats, but by doing so you only prove your own ignorance of history. You’re ignoring the fact that as Democrats evolved to embrace equality for African Americans, Southern racists were left looking for a new political party — and they found one that not only embraced their racism and bigotry, it sought it out.
And that party they found was the Republican party.

Nice fantasy, too bad it's all bullshit. I gave facts, you gave fiction.
Southern blacks voted Republican because Republicans were the ones who freed them from slavery. Democrats tried intimidation (KKK), but they still voted Republican, they passed racist laws (Jim Crow), but the Civil Rights Act (filibustered by Democrats and passed by Republicans) put an end to that. The only option the Democrats had was to BUY the black vote by making them dependent on government through welfare. That's when President Johnson (a known racist) started his "Great Society". It worked, why wouldn't it? Tear down their self esteem, destroy their family unit, make them feel like they can't achieve anything on their own, give them welfare and food stamps and an excuse for failure, then call Republicans racist for not going along with it. Heaven forbid those white devils should want blacks to stand on their own two feet like everybody else and participate in the American Dream.
You can hold onto your fantasy and repeat it at every opportunity if you want but you have no historical data to back it up. Everything I just said is verifiable. Face it, you've been used like pawns by the Democratic Party. They've been promising you freedom and prosperity for 50 years now and you're still at the bottom. You're still slaves on a plantation.

The abolishment of slavery, the Civil Rights Act, and all other anti discriminatory steps forward were accomplished by LIBERAL NORTHERN Democrats and Republicans.

None were exclusively accomplished by Republicans alone as you keep saying.

In fact, SOUTHERN Republicans were equally as opposed in their vote as SOUTHERN Democrats to the Civil Rights Act.

Your head is thicker than a brick wall.

And that's incredible in an age where information and facts are available to everyone.

And once again, I give facts and you give fiction. You'll say just about anything to avoid assigning responsibility to your race for their own failures, including trying to change historic facts. Not only do you make up your own facts, you twist what I say as well, in an effort to avoid the truth.
First you say "Republicans" are the party of racism. I give you proof that Democrats are the racist party and always have been, and you say "Yeah, but they were conservative Democrats", as if that somehow makes them Republicans. Then you try to say Democrats and Republicans "switched parties". You think anybody buys that bullshit? All anyone has to do is look at how conservative blacks are treated by Democrats (not just registered Democrats but ELECTED OFFICIALS and leaders in the Democratic Party) and it's clear that they are STILL the party of racism. You, however, don't want to see that, you just keep spewing your bullshit talking points and keep your head buried in the sand, bitterly clinging to your fantasy and liberal/socialist narrative because you can't face the truth that you've been played for 50 years by the party you think gives a damn about you. Until you can come to terms with that reality, you will remain on the plantation.

Great "talking points" did you copy them an article by one of

Yep. Racist SOUTHERN Democrats who evolved into todays Republicans.

'Member what happened yesterday when Frigidweirdo called you out for making shit up you couldn't document? You ran away to Ignore so you wouldn't have to deal with it. That was some fun.

There's never been a race riot, anywhere, where some proctor stood at the gate checking participants for voter registration cards. If they had any at all.

Prove me wrong.

Abolitionists were Republicans, slave owners were Democrats, KKK was created to intimidate Republicans and blacks, Jim Crow laws were passed by Democrats. .[/Q

Yes. SOUTHERN Democrats.

Whenever the topic of racism gets brought up between Democrats and Republicans, there are two facts you’ll almost always hear conservatives use to counter the belief that their party is full of racism:
President Abraham Lincoln was a Republican
The KKK was largely organized, and populated by, Democrats
And both are facts.
But when someone uses these two items as their defense that the Republican party isn’t loaded with racism, they’re only showing their ignorance about the reality of racism within their party.
It’s true, Southern Democrats were extremely racist. At the same time, Northern “liberal” Democrats and Republicans had already been working together to end discrimination and pushed for ending segregation.
See, in 1948, President Harry Truman made one of the boldest public moves by a Democrat towards Civil Rights for African Americans by creating the President’s Committee on Civil Rights, and ending discrimination in the military. At the Democratic National Convention in 1948 a call was made for civil rights—prompting at least 35 Southern delegates to walk out.


These movements towards civil rights for African Americans spurred a short-lived political party — the States Rights Democratic Party, also known as the “Dixiecrats.” The people who comprised this movement adamantly defended segregation of the races. It was an attempt to keep the “tyrannical Northern liberals” from “destroying the freedom of states’ rights in the South.”
Luckily, this political party only lasted one election. But what this movement really did was recognize the shift of Democrats embracing equality for African Americans and Southern whites strongly opposing any mention of civil rights.
The moves by President Truman sparked the spread of equality in the South and left Southern white Democrats with a feeling that their party was abandoning their racist — and oppressive — system of beliefs.
Over the next decade, more and more Democrats began to embrace equality, passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. And while more African Americans began to vote for Democrats, in the late-1960′s a new Republican strategy was put into place—the “Southern strategy.”
This was a plan was that was first popularized by Richard Nixon.
What the “Southern strategy” essentially does is it identified the fact that African Americans were voting for Democrats, therefore Republicans decided they would make white voters more aware of this fact in hopes of driving the “white vote” towards the Republican party.
Doubt me? Let’s look at a comment from a 1970′s interview in the New York Times with Richard Nixon’s political strategist:
“From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don’t need any more than that…but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That’s where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.”
Essentially it was the Republican party saying, “Look, blacks are voting for Democrats so you white people need to vote for Republicans—the party that will represent whites and oppose the blacks.”


With this strategy, you saw the official shift of the Republican party from the “party of Lincoln” to the party which embraced white racism towards African Americans to solidify the white vote in the South.
So, yeah, it’s easy to say Lincoln was a Republican and the KKK was largely built by Democrats, but by doing so you only prove your own ignorance of history. You’re ignoring the fact that as Democrats evolved to embrace equality for African Americans, Southern racists were left looking for a new political party — and they found one that not only embraced their racism and bigotry, it sought it out.
And that party they found was the Republican party.

Nice fantasy, too bad it's all bullshit. I gave facts, you gave fiction.
Southern blacks voted Republican because Republicans were the ones who freed them from slavery. Democrats tried intimidation (KKK), but they still voted Republican, they passed racist laws (Jim Crow), but the Civil Rights Act (filibustered by Democrats and passed by Republicans) put an end to that. The only option the Democrats had was to BUY the black vote by making them dependent on government through welfare. That's when President Johnson (a known racist) started his "Great Society". It worked, why wouldn't it? Tear down their self esteem, destroy their family unit, make them feel like they can't achieve anything on their own, give them welfare and food stamps and an excuse for failure, then call Republicans racist for not going along with it. Heaven forbid those white devils should want blacks to stand on their own two feet like everybody else and participate in the American Dream.
You can hold onto your fantasy and repeat it at every opportunity if you want but you have no historical data to back it up. Everything I just said is verifiable. Face it, you've been used like pawns by the Democratic Party. They've been promising you freedom and prosperity for 50 years now and you're still at the bottom. You're still slaves on a plantation.

The abolishment of slavery, the Civil Rights Act, and all other anti discriminatory steps forward were accomplished by LIBERAL NORTHERN Democrats and Republicans.

None were exclusively accomplished by Republicans alone as you keep saying.

In fact, SOUTHERN Republicans were equally as opposed in their vote as SOUTHERN Democrats to the Civil Rights Act.

Your head is thicker than a brick wall.

And that's incredible in an age where information and facts are available to everyone.

And once again, I give facts and you give fiction. You'll say just about anything to avoid assigning responsibility to your race for their own failures, including trying to change historic facts. Not only do you make up your own facts, you twist what I say as well, in an effort to avoid the truth.
First you say "Republicans" are the party of racism. I give you proof that Democrats are the racist party and always have been, and you say "Yeah, but they were conservative Democrats", as if that somehow makes them Republicans. Then you try to say Democrats and Republicans "switched parties". You think anybody buys that bullshit? All anyone has to do is look at how conservative blacks are treated by Democrats (not just registered Democrats but ELECTED OFFICIALS and leaders in the Democratic Party) and it's clear that they are STILL the party of racism. You, however, don't want to see that, you just keep spewing your bullshit talking points and keep your head buried in the sand, bitterly clinging to your fantasy and liberal/socialist narrative because you can't face the truth that you've been played for 50 years by the party you think gives a damn about you. Until you can come to terms with that reality, you will remain on the plantation.

Look up the distribution of votes in favor of the Civil Rights Act. Even as slow as you are, it is so clear that even you will be able to see that SOUTHERN Republicans AND Democrats were both on a majority basis opposed to its passage.

Im not glorifying Democrats either, as it is not my belief that them or Republicans have any stake in the well being of the black population of this country. And frankly if YOU are not within the very small percentile of those who control the nations wealth., they dont care about your well being either, so like it or not, you are a prisoner on the same plantation that you're rambling about.

Educate yourself. You are extremely ignorant.

 

[Syriusly]

"Question about this ongoing race war."

There is no 'race war,' the notion is unfounded nonsense.

There are however, a group of my fellow 'European Americans' who love to envision themselves as victims.

 

[ScienceRocks]

"Question about this ongoing race war."

There is no 'race war,' the notion is unfounded nonsense.

There are however, a group of my fellow 'European Americans' who love to envision themselves as victims.

Same could be said for blacks that blame everyone on europeans. If you believe the fbi, Chicago pd, New york pd, etc...Well, you'll find that blacks kill, rape and harm far more europeans yearly. Why can't we have honestly?? Honesty is important.