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No, he is not intending to reestablish the USSR.
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Putin rings in a new era of Russian military dominance
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No, he is not intending to reestablish the USSR.
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Russian cluster bombs against ISIS...........guess what.......we have the same shit...............both countries have good military capabilities.............but your saying we are weak proves nothing...........We are FAR FROM WEAK......and pushing this point is meaningless............
We don't fear the Russians...............we only fear the numbers that would die as a result of a War between us..........which would make WWII seem like a little league by comparison...............or it goes Nuclear and the entire world dies..............
What is it you are trying to prove here........................I've served during the Cold War and understand that Putin is ramping up another Cold War now............which again will serve no purpose except the undertakers.
he is engaging in EMPIRE BUILDING in conjunction with Iran with the assured
support of every Shiite in the world-------based on SHIITE UBER ALLES-----
and------classical Russia as defined by CATHERINE THE (?) great---peter??
Putin was KGB during the Cold War.......He wants a return to the good ole days of the USSR.......and the power and control...........no doubt...........
A time where they had to build walls to keep their own people in......and use KGB to make their people behave...............through.....ummmmm......coercion......
No, he is not intending to reestablish the USSR.
Not the USSR but the power trip of the USSR.................and a revival of the COLD WAR......make no mistake we are about to get into another serious arms race again.
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Russian cluster bombs against ISIS...........guess what.......we have the same shit...............both countries have good military capabilities.............but your saying we are weak proves nothing...........We are FAR FROM WEAK......and pushing this point is meaningless............
We don't fear the Russians...............we only fear the numbers that would die as a result of a War between us..........which would make WWII seem like a little league by comparison...............or it goes Nuclear and the entire world dies..............
What is it you are trying to prove here........................I've served during the Cold War and understand that Putin is ramping up another Cold War now............which again will serve no purpose except the undertakers.
he is engaging in EMPIRE BUILDING in conjunction with Iran with the assured
support of every Shiite in the world-------based on SHIITE UBER ALLES-----
and------classical Russia as defined by CATHERINE THE (?) great---peter??
Putin was KGB during the Cold War.......He wants a return to the good ole days of the USSR.......and the power and control...........no doubt...........
A time where they had to build walls to keep their own people in......and use KGB to make their people behave...............through.....ummmmm......coercion......
No, he is not intending to reestablish the USSR.
Not the USSR but the power trip of the USSR.................and a revival of the COLD WAR......make no mistake we are about to get into another serious arms race again.
But it is the Nato that reintroduces the cold war. Russia has no interest in tensions and war with its trading partners. But the puppets in Europe simply don´t speak and act in favor of the people.
Russia is simply back and overcoming the breakdown of the USSR.
- May 17, 2013
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Russian cluster bombs against ISIS...........guess what.......we have the same shit...............both countries have good military capabilities.............but your saying we are weak proves nothing...........We are FAR FROM WEAK......and pushing this point is meaningless............
We don't fear the Russians...............we only fear the numbers that would die as a result of a War between us..........which would make WWII seem like a little league by comparison...............or it goes Nuclear and the entire world dies..............
What is it you are trying to prove here........................I've served during the Cold War and understand that Putin is ramping up another Cold War now............which again will serve no purpose except the undertakers.
he is engaging in EMPIRE BUILDING in conjunction with Iran with the assured
support of every Shiite in the world-------based on SHIITE UBER ALLES-----
and------classical Russia as defined by CATHERINE THE (?) great---peter??
Putin was KGB during the Cold War.......He wants a return to the good ole days of the USSR.......and the power and control...........no doubt...........
A time where they had to build walls to keep their own people in......and use KGB to make their people behave...............through.....ummmmm......coercion......
No, he is not intending to reestablish the USSR.
Not the USSR but the power trip of the USSR.................and a revival of the COLD WAR......make no mistake we are about to get into another serious arms race again.
But it is the Nato that reintroduces the cold war. Russia has no interest in tensions and war with its trading partners. But the puppets in Europe simply don´t speak and act in favor of the people.
Russia is simply back and overcoming the breakdown of the USSR.
Like cutting off all oil supplies to the Ukraine........performing Training missions next to Poland.......
Nah.........the RUSSIANS ARE innocent........
Like cutting off all oil supplies to the Ukraine........performing Training missions next to Poland.......But it is the Nato that reintroduces the cold war. Russia has no interest in tensions and war with its trading partners. But the puppets in Europe simply don´t speak and act in favor of the people.Not the USSR but the power trip of the USSR.................and a revival of the COLD WAR......make no mistake we are about to get into another serious arms race again.No, he is not intending to reestablish the USSR.Putin was KGB during the Cold War.......He wants a return to the good ole days of the USSR.......and the power and control...........no doubt...........he is engaging in EMPIRE BUILDING in conjunction with Iran with the assured
support of every Shiite in the world-------based on SHIITE UBER ALLES-----
and------classical Russia as defined by CATHERINE THE (?) great---peter??
A time where they had to build walls to keep their own people in......and use KGB to make their people behave...............through.....ummmmm......coercion......
Russia is simply back and overcoming the breakdown of the USSR.
Nah.........the RUSSIANS ARE innocent........
capt blei is doing his job
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Russia did not cut the supplies. Oh and yes, it is totally legit to conduct maneuvers in the own country. The US, on the other hand, launched a Nazi take over of the Ukraine and you whine about Crimea. Of course, Nato conducts maneuvers next to Russia and you don´t complain. Totally controlled by western media and regimes, you only think that you have an own opinion.Like cutting off all oil supplies to the Ukraine........performing Training missions next to Poland.......But it is the Nato that reintroduces the cold war. Russia has no interest in tensions and war with its trading partners. But the puppets in Europe simply don´t speak and act in favor of the people.Not the USSR but the power trip of the USSR.................and a revival of the COLD WAR......make no mistake we are about to get into another serious arms race again.No, he is not intending to reestablish the USSR.Putin was KGB during the Cold War.......He wants a return to the good ole days of the USSR.......and the power and control...........no doubt...........he is engaging in EMPIRE BUILDING in conjunction with Iran with the assured
support of every Shiite in the world-------based on SHIITE UBER ALLES-----
and------classical Russia as defined by CATHERINE THE (?) great---peter??
A time where they had to build walls to keep their own people in......and use KGB to make their people behave...............through.....ummmmm......coercion......
Russia is simply back and overcoming the breakdown of the USSR.
Nah.........the RUSSIANS ARE innocent........
Obama nazi thugs cut off electricity to Crimea:
With terrorist acts, Ukrainian regime cuts off power supply to Crimea
Obama´s ISIS-NAZI-NATO army that you are frenetically applauding
- May 17, 2013
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Russia halts gas supplies to Ukraine after talks breakdown - BBC NewsRussia did not cut the supplies. Oh and yes, it is totally legit to conduct maneuvers in the own country. The US, on the other hand, launched a Nazi take over of the Ukraine and you whine about Crimea. Of course, Nato conducts maneuvers next to Russia and you don´t complain. Totally controlled by western media and regimes, you only think that you have an own opinion.Like cutting off all oil supplies to the Ukraine........performing Training missions next to Poland.......But it is the Nato that reintroduces the cold war. Russia has no interest in tensions and war with its trading partners. But the puppets in Europe simply don´t speak and act in favor of the people.Not the USSR but the power trip of the USSR.................and a revival of the COLD WAR......make no mistake we are about to get into another serious arms race again.No, he is not intending to reestablish the USSR.Putin was KGB during the Cold War.......He wants a return to the good ole days of the USSR.......and the power and control...........no doubt...........
A time where they had to build walls to keep their own people in......and use KGB to make their people behave...............through.....ummmmm......coercion......
Russia is simply back and overcoming the breakdown of the USSR.
Nah.........the RUSSIANS ARE innocent........
Obama nazi thugs cut off electricity to Crimea:
With terrorist acts, Ukrainian regime cuts off power supply to Crimea
Obama´s ISIS-NAZI-NATO army that you are frenetically applauding
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The deal simply expired. But don´t worry. Russia is not Nato and does not fight a war on the shoulders of the people.Russia halts gas supplies to Ukraine after talks breakdown - BBC NewsRussia did not cut the supplies. Oh and yes, it is totally legit to conduct maneuvers in the own country. The US, on the other hand, launched a Nazi take over of the Ukraine and you whine about Crimea. Of course, Nato conducts maneuvers next to Russia and you don´t complain. Totally controlled by western media and regimes, you only think that you have an own opinion.Like cutting off all oil supplies to the Ukraine........performing Training missions next to Poland.......But it is the Nato that reintroduces the cold war. Russia has no interest in tensions and war with its trading partners. But the puppets in Europe simply don´t speak and act in favor of the people.Not the USSR but the power trip of the USSR.................and a revival of the COLD WAR......make no mistake we are about to get into another serious arms race again.No, he is not intending to reestablish the USSR.
Russia is simply back and overcoming the breakdown of the USSR.
Nah.........the RUSSIANS ARE innocent........
Obama nazi thugs cut off electricity to Crimea:
With terrorist acts, Ukrainian regime cuts off power supply to Crimea
Obama´s ISIS-NAZI-NATO army that you are frenetically applauding
Russia, Ukraine Agree on Winter Gas Supplies
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Yet the article I posted showed they in fact did cut off the supplies on many occasions..........thanks for playing........Not to mention they have used veiled threats of cutting off the pipelines to all of Europe if they chose sanctions against them. So Europe looks for alternate routes to get their fuel so they can not be black mailed over oil and gas............The deal simply expired. But don´t worry. Russia is not Nato and does not fight a war on the shoulders of the people.Russia halts gas supplies to Ukraine after talks breakdown - BBC NewsRussia did not cut the supplies. Oh and yes, it is totally legit to conduct maneuvers in the own country. The US, on the other hand, launched a Nazi take over of the Ukraine and you whine about Crimea. Of course, Nato conducts maneuvers next to Russia and you don´t complain. Totally controlled by western media and regimes, you only think that you have an own opinion.Like cutting off all oil supplies to the Ukraine........performing Training missions next to Poland.......But it is the Nato that reintroduces the cold war. Russia has no interest in tensions and war with its trading partners. But the puppets in Europe simply don´t speak and act in favor of the people.Not the USSR but the power trip of the USSR.................and a revival of the COLD WAR......make no mistake we are about to get into another serious arms race again.
Russia is simply back and overcoming the breakdown of the USSR.
Nah.........the RUSSIANS ARE innocent........
Obama nazi thugs cut off electricity to Crimea:
With terrorist acts, Ukrainian regime cuts off power supply to Crimea
Obama´s ISIS-NAZI-NATO army that you are frenetically applauding
Russia, Ukraine Agree on Winter Gas Supplies
In comes Syria, and they want a pipeline from the middle east thru Syria............which under Assad doesn't happen..............This being all connected.........A battle over territory for Black Gold.
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In fact, the company ceased delivery after the treaty expired. A quite normal procedure.Yet the article I posted showed they in fact did cut off the supplies on many occasions..........thanks for playing........Not to mention they have used veiled threats of cutting off the pipelines to all of Europe if they chose sanctions against them. So Europe looks for alternate routes to get their fuel so they can not be black mailed over oil and gas............The deal simply expired. But don´t worry. Russia is not Nato and does not fight a war on the shoulders of the people.Russia halts gas supplies to Ukraine after talks breakdown - BBC NewsRussia did not cut the supplies. Oh and yes, it is totally legit to conduct maneuvers in the own country. The US, on the other hand, launched a Nazi take over of the Ukraine and you whine about Crimea. Of course, Nato conducts maneuvers next to Russia and you don´t complain. Totally controlled by western media and regimes, you only think that you have an own opinion.Like cutting off all oil supplies to the Ukraine........performing Training missions next to Poland.......But it is the Nato that reintroduces the cold war. Russia has no interest in tensions and war with its trading partners. But the puppets in Europe simply don´t speak and act in favor of the people.
Russia is simply back and overcoming the breakdown of the USSR.
Nah.........the RUSSIANS ARE innocent........
Obama nazi thugs cut off electricity to Crimea:
With terrorist acts, Ukrainian regime cuts off power supply to Crimea
Obama´s ISIS-NAZI-NATO army that you are frenetically applauding
Russia, Ukraine Agree on Winter Gas Supplies
In comes Syria, and they want a pipeline from the middle east thru Syria............which under Assad doesn't happen..............This being all connected.........A battle over territory for Black Gold.
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Cutting off gas and oil during Winter is a Normal Procedure........in the Ukraine...............LOLIn fact, the company ceased delivery after the treaty expired. A quite normal procedure.Yet the article I posted showed they in fact did cut off the supplies on many occasions..........thanks for playing........Not to mention they have used veiled threats of cutting off the pipelines to all of Europe if they chose sanctions against them. So Europe looks for alternate routes to get their fuel so they can not be black mailed over oil and gas............The deal simply expired. But don´t worry. Russia is not Nato and does not fight a war on the shoulders of the people.Russia halts gas supplies to Ukraine after talks breakdown - BBC NewsRussia did not cut the supplies. Oh and yes, it is totally legit to conduct maneuvers in the own country. The US, on the other hand, launched a Nazi take over of the Ukraine and you whine about Crimea. Of course, Nato conducts maneuvers next to Russia and you don´t complain. Totally controlled by western media and regimes, you only think that you have an own opinion.Like cutting off all oil supplies to the Ukraine........performing Training missions next to Poland.......
Nah.........the RUSSIANS ARE innocent........
Obama nazi thugs cut off electricity to Crimea:
With terrorist acts, Ukrainian regime cuts off power supply to Crimea
Obama´s ISIS-NAZI-NATO army that you are frenetically applauding
Russia, Ukraine Agree on Winter Gas Supplies
In comes Syria, and they want a pipeline from the middle east thru Syria............which under Assad doesn't happen..............This being all connected.........A battle over territory for Black Gold.
My understanding was that the Ukraine failed to pay the bills.
The reason Ukraine failed to pay the bills, was because they were heavily subsidizing the cost of gas from Russia. Meaning, the public was paying only a fraction of the cost, and the Ukraine government was paying the rest.
Well Ukraine government doesn't have any money, and wasn't paying the bill.
I can't blame Russia for cutting off gas, when Ukraine isn't paying it's bills.
That still doesn't mean it was acceptable for Russia to attack Ukraine. Nor for it take over Crimea. Nor fund slaughter of civilians.
But I am not going to just make up that Russia is turning off gas supplies without cause.
That said, you people have been claiming the US supported the overthrow of the Ukraine government without the slightest shred of evidence for ages now.
Please provide actual proof.
The reason Ukraine failed to pay the bills, was because they were heavily subsidizing the cost of gas from Russia. Meaning, the public was paying only a fraction of the cost, and the Ukraine government was paying the rest.
Well Ukraine government doesn't have any money, and wasn't paying the bill.
I can't blame Russia for cutting off gas, when Ukraine isn't paying it's bills.
That still doesn't mean it was acceptable for Russia to attack Ukraine. Nor for it take over Crimea. Nor fund slaughter of civilians.
But I am not going to just make up that Russia is turning off gas supplies without cause.
That said, you people have been claiming the US supported the overthrow of the Ukraine government without the slightest shred of evidence for ages now.
Please provide actual proof.
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Doesn´t happen. You are lying to yourself.Cutting off gas and oil during Winter is a Normal Procedure........in the Ukraine...............LOLIn fact, the company ceased delivery after the treaty expired. A quite normal procedure.Yet the article I posted showed they in fact did cut off the supplies on many occasions..........thanks for playing........Not to mention they have used veiled threats of cutting off the pipelines to all of Europe if they chose sanctions against them. So Europe looks for alternate routes to get their fuel so they can not be black mailed over oil and gas............The deal simply expired. But don´t worry. Russia is not Nato and does not fight a war on the shoulders of the people.Russia halts gas supplies to Ukraine after talks breakdown - BBC NewsRussia did not cut the supplies. Oh and yes, it is totally legit to conduct maneuvers in the own country. The US, on the other hand, launched a Nazi take over of the Ukraine and you whine about Crimea. Of course, Nato conducts maneuvers next to Russia and you don´t complain. Totally controlled by western media and regimes, you only think that you have an own opinion.
Obama nazi thugs cut off electricity to Crimea:
With terrorist acts, Ukrainian regime cuts off power supply to Crimea
Obama´s ISIS-NAZI-NATO army that you are frenetically applauding
Russia, Ukraine Agree on Winter Gas Supplies
In comes Syria, and they want a pipeline from the middle east thru Syria............which under Assad doesn't happen..............This being all connected.........A battle over territory for Black Gold.
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The fact that the west cheered a murderous nazi invasion of Ukraine is evidence enough.My understanding was that the Ukraine failed to pay the bills.
The reason Ukraine failed to pay the bills, was because they were heavily subsidizing the cost of gas from Russia. Meaning, the public was paying only a fraction of the cost, and the Ukraine government was paying the rest.
Well Ukraine government doesn't have any money, and wasn't paying the bill.
I can't blame Russia for cutting off gas, when Ukraine isn't paying it's bills.
That still doesn't mean it was acceptable for Russia to attack Ukraine. Nor for it take over Crimea. Nor fund slaughter of civilians.
But I am not going to just make up that Russia is turning off gas supplies without cause.
That said, you people have been claiming the US supported the overthrow of the Ukraine government without the slightest shred of evidence for ages now.
Please provide actual proof.
For those who do not know -----the UKRAINE is not Russia as captain blei claims----the history of the relationship between Russia and the Ukraine is chock full of
conflict. Long long ago when I was a college freshman----a Required course was
"the history of western civilization"------My prof was Ukrainian---complete with a thick
Ukrainian accent and a world view that place the Ukraine at the CENTER OF THE
UNIVERSE. -----the course was-----memorize this little history book called
"history of western civ" (little---maybe 300 pages) and listen to scores and
scores of hours of the GLORY of Ukraine------and the filth which is Russia and Russians. Tell us again about how much Ukranians LOVE Russians, capt blei.
The Ukraine was forcibly made an oppressed and defeated province of the RUSSIAN EMPIRE and used as a BUFFER zone between "HOLY" mother Russia and the people north and west who HATED RUSSIANS. It is the site of one of the most
horrific genocides of history-----committed by RUSSIA UPON THE UKRAINIANS
conflict. Long long ago when I was a college freshman----a Required course was
"the history of western civilization"------My prof was Ukrainian---complete with a thick
Ukrainian accent and a world view that place the Ukraine at the CENTER OF THE
UNIVERSE. -----the course was-----memorize this little history book called
"history of western civ" (little---maybe 300 pages) and listen to scores and
scores of hours of the GLORY of Ukraine------and the filth which is Russia and Russians. Tell us again about how much Ukranians LOVE Russians, capt blei.
The Ukraine was forcibly made an oppressed and defeated province of the RUSSIAN EMPIRE and used as a BUFFER zone between "HOLY" mother Russia and the people north and west who HATED RUSSIANS. It is the site of one of the most
horrific genocides of history-----committed by RUSSIA UPON THE UKRAINIANS
The fact that the west cheered a murderous nazi invasion of Ukraine is evidence enough.My understanding was that the Ukraine failed to pay the bills.
The reason Ukraine failed to pay the bills, was because they were heavily subsidizing the cost of gas from Russia. Meaning, the public was paying only a fraction of the cost, and the Ukraine government was paying the rest.
Well Ukraine government doesn't have any money, and wasn't paying the bill.
I can't blame Russia for cutting off gas, when Ukraine isn't paying it's bills.
That still doesn't mean it was acceptable for Russia to attack Ukraine. Nor for it take over Crimea. Nor fund slaughter of civilians.
But I am not going to just make up that Russia is turning off gas supplies without cause.
That said, you people have been claiming the US supported the overthrow of the Ukraine government without the slightest shred of evidence for ages now.
Please provide actual proof.
Not really. There was only one far right politician, and he was voted out after the revolution. And he never was in a leadership position.
Nor was he promoted by the US ambassador.
The only claims of Nazism came from Russia. The guy was against Russia's involvement in Ukraine politics.... ironically what the left-wing here is claiming happened against the Democrats.
Funny how you are screaming and yelling about Russia influence in the US election, and yet condemning a man as a Nazi for not wanting Russian influence in the Ukraine.
Hypocrite much?
Cheering isn't the same as influencing. People in Europe cheered Trump's victory here. That doesn't mean the EU was influencing our election.
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You are suffering from disinformation.The fact that the west cheered a murderous nazi invasion of Ukraine is evidence enough.My understanding was that the Ukraine failed to pay the bills.
The reason Ukraine failed to pay the bills, was because they were heavily subsidizing the cost of gas from Russia. Meaning, the public was paying only a fraction of the cost, and the Ukraine government was paying the rest.
Well Ukraine government doesn't have any money, and wasn't paying the bill.
I can't blame Russia for cutting off gas, when Ukraine isn't paying it's bills.
That still doesn't mean it was acceptable for Russia to attack Ukraine. Nor for it take over Crimea. Nor fund slaughter of civilians.
But I am not going to just make up that Russia is turning off gas supplies without cause.
That said, you people have been claiming the US supported the overthrow of the Ukraine government without the slightest shred of evidence for ages now.
Please provide actual proof.
Not really. There was only one far right politician, and he was voted out after the revolution. And he never was in a leadership position.
Nor was he promoted by the US ambassador.
The only claims of Nazism came from Russia. The guy was against Russia's involvement in Ukraine politics.... ironically what the left-wing here is claiming happened against the Democrats.
Funny how you are screaming and yelling about Russia influence in the US election, and yet condemning a man as a Nazi for not wanting Russian influence in the Ukraine.
Hypocrite much?
Cheering isn't the same as influencing. People in Europe cheered Trump's victory here. That doesn't mean the EU was influencing our election.
Svoboda (formally Social-National Party) had the deputy Prime Minster, three ministers and a vice minister.
Putin aims to Divide and Conquer
You are suffering from disinformation.The fact that the west cheered a murderous nazi invasion of Ukraine is evidence enough.My understanding was that the Ukraine failed to pay the bills.
The reason Ukraine failed to pay the bills, was because they were heavily subsidizing the cost of gas from Russia. Meaning, the public was paying only a fraction of the cost, and the Ukraine government was paying the rest.
Well Ukraine government doesn't have any money, and wasn't paying the bill.
I can't blame Russia for cutting off gas, when Ukraine isn't paying it's bills.
That still doesn't mean it was acceptable for Russia to attack Ukraine. Nor for it take over Crimea. Nor fund slaughter of civilians.
But I am not going to just make up that Russia is turning off gas supplies without cause.
That said, you people have been claiming the US supported the overthrow of the Ukraine government without the slightest shred of evidence for ages now.
Please provide actual proof.
Not really. There was only one far right politician, and he was voted out after the revolution. And he never was in a leadership position.
Nor was he promoted by the US ambassador.
The only claims of Nazism came from Russia. The guy was against Russia's involvement in Ukraine politics.... ironically what the left-wing here is claiming happened against the Democrats.
Funny how you are screaming and yelling about Russia influence in the US election, and yet condemning a man as a Nazi for not wanting Russian influence in the Ukraine.
Hypocrite much?
Cheering isn't the same as influencing. People in Europe cheered Trump's victory here. That doesn't mean the EU was influencing our election.
Svoboda (formally Social-National Party) had the deputy Prime Minster, three ministers and a vice minister.
Putin aims to Divide and Conquer
That's not relevant in my opinion. I'm not suggesting that Svoboda never had any support. Obviously they did.
Nor am I suggestion they never had people who were in elected office. The citizens of a country have the right to choose their leaders.... that includes people you don't like.
I don't like Putin. That doesn't mean suddenly I am justified in a full scale invasion of Russia, simply because I don't like Putin.
So you pointing out they had a few people in government, doesn't mean, or justify, jack to me. Nor anyone else.
What *I* was referring to, was you claimed we were involved somehow in the 2013 Euromaidan protests and fall of the Viktor Yanukovych government.
What I pointed out was there were a total of 3 major players in the Euromaidan protest, which were backed by three parties.
Arseniy Yatsenyuk, which led the the All-Ukrainian Union, which is Center-Right, and affiliated with the International Democrat Union.
Vitali Klitschko, which led the UDAR party, a Center-Left party affiliated with the European People's Part.
Oleh Tyahnybok, which was leader of the Svoboda party, the party you claim is so bad.
Out of these three, Yatsenyuk was made prime minister, and Klitschko became Mayor of Kiev, while Tyahnybok was expelled just 6 months later, and the entire party was devestated in the 2014 election, where they gained less than 0.25% of the vote, compared to over 10% of the vote in years passed. They only have 7 seats left in Parliament, out of 450.
Svodoba, now is less significant in the Ukriane, than the Independent party in the US.
That's my point. You sit there and claim we supported some sort of neo-Nazis in the Ukraine, yet the evidence doesn't show that. The people that are still in power, are not the Neo-Nazis, and the Neo-Nazis are almost irrelevant now.
The facts do not support your claims. That's all there is to it.
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Why Yanukovych and his Party of Regions are not allowed then? Only Nato slave parties are allowed. And they are all little Nazis, passing laws forcing the people to praise Bandera.Nor am I suggestion they never had people who were in elected office. The citizens of a country have the right to choose their leaders.... that includes people you don't like.
Why Yanukovych and his Party of Regions are not allowed then? Only Nato slave parties are allowed. And they are all little Nazis, passing laws forcing the people to praise Bandera.Nor am I suggestion they never had people who were in elected office. The citizens of a country have the right to choose their leaders.... that includes people you don't like.
Yanukovych was elected. He was elected on an EU platform.
He was allowed. He was elected.
The problem is, he completely reversed the entire direction of the nation, when the nation didn't want to go in reverse.
The EU trade treaty was in the works for literally years. Yanukovych promised to complete the treaty.
Just a few days before the Association Agreement with the EU was supposed to be passed, Yanukovych completely suspended the agreement, and said they would instead purse closer ties with Russia.... exactly the opposite of what the public wanted.
How dumb can you be? Why do you think they ran him out of office? He promised one thing, and then tried to give them the complete opposite.
The public voted him in, on the grounds he would complete the treaty, and create economic ties to the EU.
He suspended the treaty, and started pushing economic ties with Russia. The exact opposite of what the public asked for.
Yes, he was run out of the country, and he should have been. If you voted for me, and elected me to office on the grounds I was pass a treaty with Russia, and create economic ties with Russia, and a few months later, suspended all treaties with Russia, and pushed for economic ties with the EU....
You would be upset. You would run me out of the country. And you would be right to do that.
Well the Ukraine people have a right as well. You need to grow up. Stop thinking like a child.
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