Marxist
Senior Member
Oh, Andy, you truly are pathetic. You've decided to completely ignore that you flat out lied about the big mac price, which is fun I guess. My argument is poor? I use actual data, and good job not addressing your hilarious connections. Oh god, here we go, what a fucking straw man, that has nothing to do with finland's average wage, the big mac price, the minimum wage's affect on price... What bullshit, the majority of mcdonalds workers don't want to work there if they could get a better job, you're an idiot if you truly think that.Yeah, I used to work a mcdonalds, my coworkers who had been there for 2 years were making 7.85, what's your point? Ok, that's the average wage, now tell me the average wage in finland?http://www.glassdoor.com/Hourly-Pay...-Pay-EJI_IE432.0,10_KO11,26_IL.27,34_IN79.htmHe lied about the price as well.
Big Mac index 2015 Statistic
OH, AND LOOK, FINLAND IS BELOW US. LOL
Finland also has absolutely no minimum wage at all. Finland McDonald's employees are paid almost the same as they are here in the US. Thus logically, the prices of a McBurger are also relatively the same.
Still much higher then $7.25, and let's also consider the wonderful benefits given by the state in finland, and yet, the big mac still costs less. Finland also has strong labor participation, unions, which america is severely lacking in. Keep spewing more BS
No, not true. When I was working at McDonald's myself, I wasn't paid minimum wage. Minimum wage is reserved almost exclusively for part time, and new hires. If you work there just 6 month straight, you'll be making significantly more than minimum wage. If you stay a full year, working full time, you'll easily be a dollar plus more than the minimum wage.
McDonald s raising average worker wage to about 10 an hour Reuters
The average wage RIGHT NOW.... when the minimum wage is $7.25.... is $9. When the average wage in Finland is 9€, that is highly comparable. Again, 9€ is the average, just like $9 in the US is the average. Meaning many make less, and many make more, exactly like the US.
So as I said.... wages are extremely comparable, and thus prices are also very comparable.
By the way, I've read that in Finland, McDonald's starts off employees as "trainees" for only 4€/hr. Much lower than the minimum wage here, which could be why prices are slightly lower in Finland, than in the US.
OECD Better Life IndexIn Finland, the average household net-adjusted disposable income per capita is 26 904 USD a year, more than the OECD average of 23 938 USD a year
Yet, the big mac still costs less.
9 in finland is $ 9.78, and finland has a higher average wage, let alone all the benefits
Oh, yeah, how long are they trainees, and you've already admitted that the "bottom workers" are just a minority, why don't we look at your averages? You're getting desperate.
No, I'm not desperate at all. In fact, I have always believed that it's the person who constantly accuses everyone else of being desperate, that they themselves are the desperate ones. The fact your argument is so poor, your falling back on accusing everyone of being desperate.... kind of implicates yourself in your own accusation.
Back to the better life index...
The two are not really connected. If everyone who worked at McDonalds went to college and get a degree in Engineering, they would all be making tons of money later in life.
The fact is, some people choose to not do this. In fact, when I was working at McDonald, there was a manager there, a chick who had a degree in Architecture. Now... that not a bad degree. The average salary for such a degree is $73K. Yet she was earning a fraction of that as shift manager at McDonald. Why? I asked her, like "Why the HECK are you here?" and she told me straight up, she wanted the flexibility of working at McDonalds, and be at home with her kids more.
We have more low-skill and low-wage employees in America. A significant chunk of that is choice. More people in Finland choose to move up to higher paying employment. Thus they have pretty good per capita income.
Has nothing to do with how much McDonald's pays its employees. Has to do with how McDonald employees make the choice to move up the economic ladder.