Professor calls universities the ‘gravest internal threat’ to U.S.

[deanrd]

Jason Hill, DePaul professor, slams liberal colleges as ‘gravest internal threat to this country’
Professor calls universities the ‘gravest internal threat’ to U.S.

Quote:

"Jason Hill, who teaches at Chicago’s private DePaul University, blasted universities in a hard-hitting op-ed earlier this month as “propaganda machines” that indoctrinate students to reject Western culture.

“The core principles and foundations that keep the United States intact, that provide our citizens with their civic personalities and national identities, are being annihilated,” wrote Hill.

“The gravest internal threat to this country is not illegal aliens; it is leftist professors who are waging a war against America and teaching our young people to hate this country.”"

And quote:

"Moreover, “today’s scholars in humanities and social sciences increasingly declare that modern argumentation is a white, Western form of domination and linguistic imperialism that silences racial and ethnic minorities and devalues their ‘lived experiences,’” Hill said.

“One cannot argue with such people. The only alternative is to shut them down.”

That means universities as currently constituted have got to go, argued Hill, who has written on civil disobedience and identity politics, social and political philosophy, cosmopolitanism and race theory."
______________________________________________________________________________________

While I do not agree universities must be shut down, some kind of philosophical counterweight must
exist. One that provides humanities and social science majors--particularly future doctoral candidates headed for professorships--a balanced mix at least of ideological philosophies and political psychology, in particular, while depoliticizing core history courses.

Doctoral candidate exams also need to be reconsidered for less bias towards the "godless" schools of thought. While not yet as militant radical Left as say,the Sorbonne of the 70's, the anti-Western, anti-American indoctrination culture in many humanities and social science departments has surpassed the point of too far--perhaps the point of no return--for this generation at least. Essentially, the political correctness needs to go. Freedom to interpret and share ideas seems nearly lost to modern enclaves of radical liberalism.

What do you think?

Helps to explain why cons remain stupid.

It’s not remains, stupid it’s a determined ignorance.
Something else entirely.

 

[Unkotare]

Does socialism work? A classroom experiment - The Commentator

 

[Unkotare]

.....

Our civic personalities and national identities are being undermined by the very thing the professor promotes as healthy to American society, hyper individualism.....

There's the ultimate fear that keeps leftists awake at night. When weaklings crave power, they can only insist on a faceless mass because they know they cannot stand on their individual merits. Fortunately, human nature has something else to say about it.

 

[night_son]

The part of this discussion regarding Christianity is ridiculous. There is no single Christian philosophy. Christianity is a very loosely knit group of various denominations, sects, cults, and whatever else. Christians cannot agree on whether it's raining (not that the other religions can, either).

It would make more sense for students to take a religious survey course that covers all the major religions. It is amazing how many Americans are completely ignorant of the scope of religious thought and practice among the world's religions. One sees this ignorance displayed on USMB every day.

I disagree. Including myself in this dialectic, I for one--and as a student who has met individuals who have experienced similar life journeys--have lived a cycle of beginning my existence beneath what many on the American and international academic Left accusatorily suggest as: the heavy yolk of a very conservative Wesleyan, Southern Baptist and Catholic religious inculcation and indoctrination. True enough, I towed these theological lines according to family tradition, until beginning to reject them in my early teen years after certain restrictions were placed on the freedoms of my burgeoning young adulthood as a means for coercing my personal conformity to their demands on my freedom under threat for noncompliance, such as confirmation into the Methodist Church and active participation in the Church youth group.

Not long after came the beginning of my military service, and soon after that, a steep dive into atheism and the rejection of all familial and culturally enforced religious views, ending this phase neatly within a personal self-opened, high gravity philosophical black hole of nihilism, which I was never able to spiritually "fill in" or "up" with sufficient regret for my own existence in the grandest scheme of my own tiny being against the forever abyss of an infinite universe of human suffering. What followed my climb over long years out of a youthful rebellious self-searched out and imposed ideology of self-destruction, was visitation with many other world historical religious philosophies, including Jainism, Zoroastrianism and Hinduism, along with a years running personal examination of Native American animism, spiritualism and symbolism.

Only now, in the early beginning of the middle of my life, have I been returned to the Christian philosophies of my forefathers, of my own volition-- in the search for truth; and further, in their physical absence from my life. No one person or organizationally enforced campaign of indoctrination forced me either intellectually or spiritually back into the Christian "fold". In fact, the exact opposite is more truer. The more I have opened my mind to alternative religious and secular philosophical alternatives, the greater my thirst became for my own voluntary return to Christianity.

As previously mentioned, I am not alone in this process of beginning life with Christianity, renouncing its philosophies and seeming social, intellectual and cultural restraints, and then returning to it for life free of ideological coercion. Once again, the insinuation that a broad exposure to epistemological interpretational foundations of thought in the many syllabi of higher learning predisposes the student to rejecting either their after born with Christian faith, or, conservative philosophic values, is among the very worst of broad and out of ignorance, born, broad generalizations. On should never assume any such normative "truths" at the risk of cornering oneself intellectually, socially and culturally into a dead end space from which one cannot retreat gracefully.

 

[Tehon]

.....

Our civic personalities and national identities are being undermined by the very thing the professor promotes as healthy to American society, hyper individualism.....

There's the ultimate fear that keeps leftists awake at night. When weaklings crave power, they can only insist on a faceless mass because they know they cannot stand on their individual merits. Fortunately, human nature has something else to say about it.

I'm not insisting on anything. In fact it is the conservative professor who is insisting that Americans be indoctrinated in the classroom with civic responsibilities and national identity. I'm simply pointing out that promoting rugged individualism undermines the cause.

Nice try though.

 

[Unkotare]

.....

Our civic personalities and national identities are being undermined by the very thing the professor promotes as healthy to American society, hyper individualism.....

There's the ultimate fear that keeps leftists awake at night. When weaklings crave power, they can only insist on a faceless mass because they know they cannot stand on their individual merits. Fortunately, human nature has something else to say about it.

I'm not insisting on anything. In fact it is the conservative professor who is insisting that Americans be indoctrinated in the classroom with civic responsibilities and national identity. I'm simply pointing out that promoting rugged individualism undermines the cause.....

It does not. You just don't understand America.

 

[saveliberty]

I think most college students gravitate to a college that fits their chosen profession and a political environment they can tolerate or support. Changing hearts and minds takes more than a professor you have for three months.

 

[Tehon]

.....

Our civic personalities and national identities are being undermined by the very thing the professor promotes as healthy to American society, hyper individualism.....

There's the ultimate fear that keeps leftists awake at night. When weaklings crave power, they can only insist on a faceless mass because they know they cannot stand on their individual merits. Fortunately, human nature has something else to say about it.

I'm not insisting on anything. In fact it is the conservative professor who is insisting that Americans be indoctrinated in the classroom with civic responsibilities and national identity. I'm simply pointing out that promoting rugged individualism undermines the cause.....

It does not. You just don't understand America.

I understand America just fine. I'm watching 30+ years of economic liberalization create the conditions for an emerging quasi socialist movement on the left and a movement (bowel I want to say) on the right that elected a national populist to the White House. By all appearances all is not well in America, our social fabric is ripping apart and an individualist ideology isn't going to pull it back together.

 

[saveliberty]

I understand America just fine. I'm watching 30+ years of economic liberalization create the conditions for an emerging quasi socialist movement on the left and a movement (bowel I want to say) on the right that elected a national populist to the White House. By all appearances all is not well in America, our social fabric is ripping apart and an individualist ideology isn't going to pull it back together.

Society has problems because government and liberals think it needed progress. Redistributing wealth, services, access and opportunity on a grand scale hurts a lot of individuals. Fixing it through socialism, demeans people and can never unite people really.

 

[deanrd]

Jason Hill, DePaul professor, slams liberal colleges as ‘gravest internal threat to this country’
Professor calls universities the ‘gravest internal threat’ to U.S.

Quote:

"Jason Hill, who teaches at Chicago’s private DePaul University, blasted universities in a hard-hitting op-ed earlier this month as “propaganda machines” that indoctrinate students to reject Western culture.

“The core principles and foundations that keep the United States intact, that provide our citizens with their civic personalities and national identities, are being annihilated,” wrote Hill.

“The gravest internal threat to this country is not illegal aliens; it is leftist professors who are waging a war against America and teaching our young people to hate this country.”"

And quote:

"Moreover, “today’s scholars in humanities and social sciences increasingly declare that modern argumentation is a white, Western form of domination and linguistic imperialism that silences racial and ethnic minorities and devalues their ‘lived experiences,’” Hill said.

“One cannot argue with such people. The only alternative is to shut them down.”

That means universities as currently constituted have got to go, argued Hill, who has written on civil disobedience and identity politics, social and political philosophy, cosmopolitanism and race theory."
______________________________________________________________________________________

While I do not agree universities must be shut down, some kind of philosophical counterweight must
exist. One that provides humanities and social science majors--particularly future doctoral candidates headed for professorships--a balanced mix at least of ideological philosophies and political psychology, in particular, while depoliticizing core history courses.

Doctoral candidate exams also need to be reconsidered for less bias towards the "godless" schools of thought. While not yet as militant radical Left as say,the Sorbonne of the 70's, the anti-Western, anti-American indoctrination culture in many humanities and social science departments has surpassed the point of too far--perhaps the point of no return--for this generation at least. Essentially, the political correctness needs to go. Freedom to interpret and share ideas seems nearly lost to modern enclaves of radical liberalism.

What do you think?

Hilarious that you care about what this guy thinks:

A black immigrant from a country I have no doubt Trump thinks is a sh!thole, Jamacia.

I saw this before. When Michael Behe put forth his crazy theory on Magical Creation, or as he so scientifically puts it "intelligent Design".

The University had to issue a disclaimer that his craziness doesn't represent their views.

The Lehigh University Disclaimer

The Complete Statement:

Department Position on Evolution and "Intelligent Design"

The faculty in the Department of Biological Sciences is committed to the highest standards of scientific integrity and academic function. This commitment carries with it unwavering support for academic freedom and the free exchange of ideas. It also demands the utmost respect for the scientific method, integrity in the conduct of research, and recognition that the validity of any scientific model comes only as a result of rational hypothesis testing, sound experimentation, and findings that can be replicated by others.

The department faculty, then, are unequivocal in their support of evolutionary theory, which has its roots in the seminal work of Charles Darwin and has been supported by findings accumulated over 140 years. The sole dissenter from this position, Prof. Michael Behe, is a well-known proponent of "intelligent design." While we respect Prof. Behe's right to express his views, they are his alone and are in no way endorsed by the department. It is our collective position that intelligent design has no basis in science, has not been tested experimentally, and should not be regarded as scientific.

 

[Unkotare]

.....

Our civic personalities and national identities are being undermined by the very thing the professor promotes as healthy to American society, hyper individualism.....

There's the ultimate fear that keeps leftists awake at night. When weaklings crave power, they can only insist on a faceless mass because they know they cannot stand on their individual merits. Fortunately, human nature has something else to say about it.

I'm not insisting on anything. In fact it is the conservative professor who is insisting that Americans be indoctrinated in the classroom with civic responsibilities and national identity. I'm simply pointing out that promoting rugged individualism undermines the cause.....

It does not. You just don't understand America.

.....By all appearances all is not well in America, our social fabric is ripping apart and an individualist ideology isn't going to pull it back together.

From your comments it is very clear that you do NOT understand America.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Jason Hill, DePaul professor, slams liberal colleges as ‘gravest internal threat to this country’
Professor calls universities the ‘gravest internal threat’ to U.S.

Quote:

"Jason Hill, who teaches at Chicago’s private DePaul University, blasted universities in a hard-hitting op-ed earlier this month as “propaganda machines” that indoctrinate students to reject Western culture.

“The core principles and foundations that keep the United States intact, that provide our citizens with their civic personalities and national identities, are being annihilated,” wrote Hill.

“The gravest internal threat to this country is not illegal aliens; it is leftist professors who are waging a war against America and teaching our young people to hate this country.”"

And quote:

"Moreover, “today’s scholars in humanities and social sciences increasingly declare that modern argumentation is a white, Western form of domination and linguistic imperialism that silences racial and ethnic minorities and devalues their ‘lived experiences,’” Hill said.

“One cannot argue with such people. The only alternative is to shut them down.”

That means universities as currently constituted have got to go, argued Hill, who has written on civil disobedience and identity politics, social and political philosophy, cosmopolitanism and race theory."
______________________________________________________________________________________

While I do not agree universities must be shut down, some kind of philosophical counterweight must
exist. One that provides humanities and social science majors--particularly future doctoral candidates headed for professorships--a balanced mix at least of ideological philosophies and political psychology, in particular, while depoliticizing core history courses.

Doctoral candidate exams also need to be reconsidered for less bias towards the "godless" schools of thought. While not yet as militant radical Left as say,the Sorbonne of the 70's, the anti-Western, anti-American indoctrination culture in many humanities and social science departments has surpassed the point of too far--perhaps the point of no return--for this generation at least. Essentially, the political correctness needs to go. Freedom to interpret and share ideas seems nearly lost to modern enclaves of radical liberalism.

What do you think?

No, I disagree.

I don't disagree that universities could be a threat to sensible life in the US.

However I don't think this is the gravest threat.

The gravest threat is the system of electing "representatives".

The FPTP system favors the biggest two parties. In fact there really aren't any other viable parties. This leads to partisan politics that is getting worse and worse and worse.

This leads to universities becoming partisan, along with religious groups, and everyone else.

This partisanship is destroying the US.

 

[night_son]

.....

Our civic personalities and national identities are being undermined by the very thing the professor promotes as healthy to American society, hyper individualism.....

There's the ultimate fear that keeps leftists awake at night. When weaklings crave power, they can only insist on a faceless mass because they know they cannot stand on their individual merits. Fortunately, human nature has something else to say about it.

I'm not insisting on anything. In fact it is the conservative professor who is insisting that Americans be indoctrinated in the classroom with civic responsibilities and national identity. I'm simply pointing out that promoting rugged individualism undermines the cause.....

It does not. You just don't understand America.

I understand America just fine. I'm watching 30+ years of economic liberalization create the conditions for an emerging quasi socialist movement on the left and a movement (bowel I want to say) on the right that elected a national populist to the White House. By all appearances all is not well in America, our social fabric is ripping apart and an individualist ideology isn't going to pull it back together.

In simplest terms: ideology has led America to the precipice of a historical, even politically epochal death drop into a cultural abyss. Ideology can save her; reinforced by a powerful enough government (authoritarian lite), guided by laser-like focus on projecting necessary reforms.

I disagree; the individual is and has been since America's founding, the "reason for the season". Western Civilization post-Enlightenment is predicated upon individual freedom and rights. Nowhere is this agency-spirit of the foundation for Modernist Western civilization more purer and true than in America's founding.

I enjoy reading your posts, Tehon. However, we seem to disagree at the most fundamental level of political philosophy. Marx and Engels believed in an eventual, natural death of capitalism-- perhaps a bit too condescendingly or cynically for the "natural death" part--at the hands of voluntary revolution in the name of the working class. However, the upper and middle class are not the enemy of a functional, individually beneficial society. Only in the Western democracy--no more so than in America-- can Marx's oppressed worker rise on his merit to join or even surpass the despised bourgeoisie without a bloody revolution; social, cultural or shooting. American followers of Marx to me seem to have no respect for the power of the individual freedom granted them by the equilibrium of the law and constitutional protections.

 

[night_son]

Jason Hill, DePaul professor, slams liberal colleges as ‘gravest internal threat to this country’
Professor calls universities the ‘gravest internal threat’ to U.S.

Quote:

"Jason Hill, who teaches at Chicago’s private DePaul University, blasted universities in a hard-hitting op-ed earlier this month as “propaganda machines” that indoctrinate students to reject Western culture.

“The core principles and foundations that keep the United States intact, that provide our citizens with their civic personalities and national identities, are being annihilated,” wrote Hill.

“The gravest internal threat to this country is not illegal aliens; it is leftist professors who are waging a war against America and teaching our young people to hate this country.”"

And quote:

"Moreover, “today’s scholars in humanities and social sciences increasingly declare that modern argumentation is a white, Western form of domination and linguistic imperialism that silences racial and ethnic minorities and devalues their ‘lived experiences,’” Hill said.

“One cannot argue with such people. The only alternative is to shut them down.”

That means universities as currently constituted have got to go, argued Hill, who has written on civil disobedience and identity politics, social and political philosophy, cosmopolitanism and race theory."
______________________________________________________________________________________

While I do not agree universities must be shut down, some kind of philosophical counterweight must
exist. One that provides humanities and social science majors--particularly future doctoral candidates headed for professorships--a balanced mix at least of ideological philosophies and political psychology, in particular, while depoliticizing core history courses.

Doctoral candidate exams also need to be reconsidered for less bias towards the "godless" schools of thought. While not yet as militant radical Left as say,the Sorbonne of the 70's, the anti-Western, anti-American indoctrination culture in many humanities and social science departments has surpassed the point of too far--perhaps the point of no return--for this generation at least. Essentially, the political correctness needs to go. Freedom to interpret and share ideas seems nearly lost to modern enclaves of radical liberalism.

What do you think?

No, I disagree.

I don't disagree that universities could be a threat to sensible life in the US.

However I don't think this is the gravest threat.

The gravest threat is the system of electing "representatives".

The FPTP system favors the biggest two parties. In fact there really aren't any other viable parties. This leads to partisan politics that is getting worse and worse and worse.

This leads to universities becoming partisan, along with religious groups, and everyone else.

This partisanship is destroying the US.

Thanks, Frigid. You introduce an important position to this thread. The two party system is a either a byproduct or intended binary ideological control construct of a centuries long running, highly destructive to the American way of life Hegelian dialectic. I agree with you on the effects of the two party system. However, we are past the point, for the immediate present, of undoing two party damage when the ideological war is ripping America apart across the civilizational spectrum.

 

[Hiryuu]

Well before I went to college I only had the viewpoints from my family and friends. In college it not only was the viewpoints and beliefs from my professors but also from all my classmates from many different cultures and countries. I wouldn't say anyone was pushing me to be more liberal and a democrat, it's just once my eyes were opened and I saw perspectives and beliefs that were different from what my family and friends taught me in school I became more liberal. In college you get to interact with lots of people and in many ways just the interaction with so many people created a wealth of knowledge that I did not have before.

So I believe your premise is wrong. I don't believe professors are in anyway pushing their students to become leftists, it just seems to happen that way when people are exposed to a wide range of beliefs and viewpoints that are different than what their family and friends taught them growing up.

Use the wonderful education you received to explain why anyone would expect you to find a problem with becoming more of what you already are, or why you may think being exposed to more of the ideas you like, would not lead you to consider that what you think is anything other than merely correct.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Jason Hill, DePaul professor, slams liberal colleges as ‘gravest internal threat to this country’
Professor calls universities the ‘gravest internal threat’ to U.S.

Quote:

"Jason Hill, who teaches at Chicago’s private DePaul University, blasted universities in a hard-hitting op-ed earlier this month as “propaganda machines” that indoctrinate students to reject Western culture.

“The core principles and foundations that keep the United States intact, that provide our citizens with their civic personalities and national identities, are being annihilated,” wrote Hill.

“The gravest internal threat to this country is not illegal aliens; it is leftist professors who are waging a war against America and teaching our young people to hate this country.”"

And quote:

"Moreover, “today’s scholars in humanities and social sciences increasingly declare that modern argumentation is a white, Western form of domination and linguistic imperialism that silences racial and ethnic minorities and devalues their ‘lived experiences,’” Hill said.

“One cannot argue with such people. The only alternative is to shut them down.”

That means universities as currently constituted have got to go, argued Hill, who has written on civil disobedience and identity politics, social and political philosophy, cosmopolitanism and race theory."
______________________________________________________________________________________

While I do not agree universities must be shut down, some kind of philosophical counterweight must
exist. One that provides humanities and social science majors--particularly future doctoral candidates headed for professorships--a balanced mix at least of ideological philosophies and political psychology, in particular, while depoliticizing core history courses.

Doctoral candidate exams also need to be reconsidered for less bias towards the "godless" schools of thought. While not yet as militant radical Left as say,the Sorbonne of the 70's, the anti-Western, anti-American indoctrination culture in many humanities and social science departments has surpassed the point of too far--perhaps the point of no return--for this generation at least. Essentially, the political correctness needs to go. Freedom to interpret and share ideas seems nearly lost to modern enclaves of radical liberalism.

What do you think?

No, I disagree.

I don't disagree that universities could be a threat to sensible life in the US.

However I don't think this is the gravest threat.

The gravest threat is the system of electing "representatives".

The FPTP system favors the biggest two parties. In fact there really aren't any other viable parties. This leads to partisan politics that is getting worse and worse and worse.

This leads to universities becoming partisan, along with religious groups, and everyone else.

This partisanship is destroying the US.

Thanks, Frigid. You introduce an important position to this thread. The two party system is a either a byproduct or intended binary ideological control construct of a centuries long running, highly destructive to the American way of life Hegelian dialectic. I agree with you on the effects of the two party system. However, we are past the point, for the immediate present, of undoing two party damage when the ideological war is ripping America apart across the civilizational spectrum.

Well, past the point because nobody actually seems to want to change the system, then I agree.

But even what you've said is "yes, there's a problem but let's not deal with it because..."

 

[night_son]

Jason Hill, DePaul professor, slams liberal colleges as ‘gravest internal threat to this country’
Professor calls universities the ‘gravest internal threat’ to U.S.

Quote:

"Jason Hill, who teaches at Chicago’s private DePaul University, blasted universities in a hard-hitting op-ed earlier this month as “propaganda machines” that indoctrinate students to reject Western culture.

“The core principles and foundations that keep the United States intact, that provide our citizens with their civic personalities and national identities, are being annihilated,” wrote Hill.

“The gravest internal threat to this country is not illegal aliens; it is leftist professors who are waging a war against America and teaching our young people to hate this country.”"

And quote:

"Moreover, “today’s scholars in humanities and social sciences increasingly declare that modern argumentation is a white, Western form of domination and linguistic imperialism that silences racial and ethnic minorities and devalues their ‘lived experiences,’” Hill said.

“One cannot argue with such people. The only alternative is to shut them down.”

That means universities as currently constituted have got to go, argued Hill, who has written on civil disobedience and identity politics, social and political philosophy, cosmopolitanism and race theory."
______________________________________________________________________________________

While I do not agree universities must be shut down, some kind of philosophical counterweight must
exist. One that provides humanities and social science majors--particularly future doctoral candidates headed for professorships--a balanced mix at least of ideological philosophies and political psychology, in particular, while depoliticizing core history courses.

Doctoral candidate exams also need to be reconsidered for less bias towards the "godless" schools of thought. While not yet as militant radical Left as say,the Sorbonne of the 70's, the anti-Western, anti-American indoctrination culture in many humanities and social science departments has surpassed the point of too far--perhaps the point of no return--for this generation at least. Essentially, the political correctness needs to go. Freedom to interpret and share ideas seems nearly lost to modern enclaves of radical liberalism.

What do you think?

No, I disagree.

I don't disagree that universities could be a threat to sensible life in the US.

However I don't think this is the gravest threat.

The gravest threat is the system of electing "representatives".

The FPTP system favors the biggest two parties. In fact there really aren't any other viable parties. This leads to partisan politics that is getting worse and worse and worse.

This leads to universities becoming partisan, along with religious groups, and everyone else.

This partisanship is destroying the US.

Thanks, Frigid. You introduce an important position to this thread. The two party system is a either a byproduct or intended binary ideological control construct of a centuries long running, highly destructive to the American way of life Hegelian dialectic. I agree with you on the effects of the two party system. However, we are past the point, for the immediate present, of undoing two party damage when the ideological war is ripping America apart across the civilizational spectrum.

Well, past the point because nobody actually seems to want to change the system, then I agree.

But even what you've said is "yes, there's a problem but let's not deal with it because..."

No, you mistake my tone. Counter-ideology is the way of dealing with it. I was agreeing with you in the spirit of American founding political philosophy as a center mark, one too far deviated both Left and Right by their respective radical political and cultural philosophies. We need to get back to the center, however, the de-politicization of the power held currently by America's two dominant parties to a degree allowing a third or fourth, etc, isn't going to happen mid-stride in a climate of relentless ideological warfare. The entire machine is running on the fuel of sharp ideology based division by culture, philosophy, political and economic theory, etc.

What is your solution for high value, meaningful change beneficial to our America of today?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Jason Hill, DePaul professor, slams liberal colleges as ‘gravest internal threat to this country’
Professor calls universities the ‘gravest internal threat’ to U.S.

Quote:

"Jason Hill, who teaches at Chicago’s private DePaul University, blasted universities in a hard-hitting op-ed earlier this month as “propaganda machines” that indoctrinate students to reject Western culture.

“The core principles and foundations that keep the United States intact, that provide our citizens with their civic personalities and national identities, are being annihilated,” wrote Hill.

“The gravest internal threat to this country is not illegal aliens; it is leftist professors who are waging a war against America and teaching our young people to hate this country.”"

And quote:

"Moreover, “today’s scholars in humanities and social sciences increasingly declare that modern argumentation is a white, Western form of domination and linguistic imperialism that silences racial and ethnic minorities and devalues their ‘lived experiences,’” Hill said.

“One cannot argue with such people. The only alternative is to shut them down.”

That means universities as currently constituted have got to go, argued Hill, who has written on civil disobedience and identity politics, social and political philosophy, cosmopolitanism and race theory."
______________________________________________________________________________________

While I do not agree universities must be shut down, some kind of philosophical counterweight must
exist. One that provides humanities and social science majors--particularly future doctoral candidates headed for professorships--a balanced mix at least of ideological philosophies and political psychology, in particular, while depoliticizing core history courses.

Doctoral candidate exams also need to be reconsidered for less bias towards the "godless" schools of thought. While not yet as militant radical Left as say,the Sorbonne of the 70's, the anti-Western, anti-American indoctrination culture in many humanities and social science departments has surpassed the point of too far--perhaps the point of no return--for this generation at least. Essentially, the political correctness needs to go. Freedom to interpret and share ideas seems nearly lost to modern enclaves of radical liberalism.

What do you think?

No, I disagree.

I don't disagree that universities could be a threat to sensible life in the US.

However I don't think this is the gravest threat.

The gravest threat is the system of electing "representatives".

The FPTP system favors the biggest two parties. In fact there really aren't any other viable parties. This leads to partisan politics that is getting worse and worse and worse.

This leads to universities becoming partisan, along with religious groups, and everyone else.

This partisanship is destroying the US.

Thanks, Frigid. You introduce an important position to this thread. The two party system is a either a byproduct or intended binary ideological control construct of a centuries long running, highly destructive to the American way of life Hegelian dialectic. I agree with you on the effects of the two party system. However, we are past the point, for the immediate present, of undoing two party damage when the ideological war is ripping America apart across the civilizational spectrum.

Well, past the point because nobody actually seems to want to change the system, then I agree.

But even what you've said is "yes, there's a problem but let's not deal with it because..."

No, you mistake my tone. Counter-ideology is the way of dealing with it. I was agreeing with you in the spirit of American founding political philosophy as a center mark, one too far deviated both Left and Right by their respective radical political and cultural philosophies. We need to get back to the center, however, the de-politicization of the power held currently by America's two dominant parties to a degree allowing a third or fourth, etc, isn't going to happen mid-stride in a climate of relentless ideological warfare. The entire machine is running on the fuel of sharp ideology based division by culture, philosophy, political and economic theory, etc.

What is your solution for high value, meaningful change beneficial to our America of today?

But you won't get "counter-ideology" with the current FPTP system.

My solution is to change FPTP to PR.

Or, better said.

For the presidency.

A French style run off system. Two votes. One for all candidates, the next one for the last two.

Or, potentially a system where different parts of the executive are run by different people, and they're elected separately and independently of the head of state.

For the House, straight up PR. One person, one vote. People in Guam, Puerto Rico have the same power of vote as people in Wyoming.

For the Senate I don't know. Depends on how people want things to go. But certainly some kind of better system.

 

[night_son]

Jason Hill, DePaul professor, slams liberal colleges as ‘gravest internal threat to this country’
Professor calls universities the ‘gravest internal threat’ to U.S.

Quote:

"Jason Hill, who teaches at Chicago’s private DePaul University, blasted universities in a hard-hitting op-ed earlier this month as “propaganda machines” that indoctrinate students to reject Western culture.

“The core principles and foundations that keep the United States intact, that provide our citizens with their civic personalities and national identities, are being annihilated,” wrote Hill.

“The gravest internal threat to this country is not illegal aliens; it is leftist professors who are waging a war against America and teaching our young people to hate this country.”"

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"Moreover, “today’s scholars in humanities and social sciences increasingly declare that modern argumentation is a white, Western form of domination and linguistic imperialism that silences racial and ethnic minorities and devalues their ‘lived experiences,’” Hill said.

“One cannot argue with such people. The only alternative is to shut them down.”

That means universities as currently constituted have got to go, argued Hill, who has written on civil disobedience and identity politics, social and political philosophy, cosmopolitanism and race theory."
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While I do not agree universities must be shut down, some kind of philosophical counterweight must
exist. One that provides humanities and social science majors--particularly future doctoral candidates headed for professorships--a balanced mix at least of ideological philosophies and political psychology, in particular, while depoliticizing core history courses.

Doctoral candidate exams also need to be reconsidered for less bias towards the "godless" schools of thought. While not yet as militant radical Left as say,the Sorbonne of the 70's, the anti-Western, anti-American indoctrination culture in many humanities and social science departments has surpassed the point of too far--perhaps the point of no return--for this generation at least. Essentially, the political correctness needs to go. Freedom to interpret and share ideas seems nearly lost to modern enclaves of radical liberalism.

What do you think?

No, I disagree.

I don't disagree that universities could be a threat to sensible life in the US.

However I don't think this is the gravest threat.

The gravest threat is the system of electing "representatives".

The FPTP system favors the biggest two parties. In fact there really aren't any other viable parties. This leads to partisan politics that is getting worse and worse and worse.

This leads to universities becoming partisan, along with religious groups, and everyone else.

This partisanship is destroying the US.

Thanks, Frigid. You introduce an important position to this thread. The two party system is a either a byproduct or intended binary ideological control construct of a centuries long running, highly destructive to the American way of life Hegelian dialectic. I agree with you on the effects of the two party system. However, we are past the point, for the immediate present, of undoing two party damage when the ideological war is ripping America apart across the civilizational spectrum.

Well, past the point because nobody actually seems to want to change the system, then I agree.

But even what you've said is "yes, there's a problem but let's not deal with it because..."

No, you mistake my tone. Counter-ideology is the way of dealing with it. I was agreeing with you in the spirit of American founding political philosophy as a center mark, one too far deviated both Left and Right by their respective radical political and cultural philosophies. We need to get back to the center, however, the de-politicization of the power held currently by America's two dominant parties to a degree allowing a third or fourth, etc, isn't going to happen mid-stride in a climate of relentless ideological warfare. The entire machine is running on the fuel of sharp ideology based division by culture, philosophy, political and economic theory, etc.

What is your solution for high value, meaningful change beneficial to our America of today?

But you won't get "counter-ideology" with the current FPTP system.

My solution is to change FPTP to PR.

Or, better said.

For the presidency.

A French style run off system. Two votes. One for all candidates, the next one for the last two.

Or, potentially a system where different parts of the executive are run by different people, and they're elected separately and independently of the head of state.

For the House, straight up PR. One person, one vote. People in Guam, Puerto Rico have the same power of vote as people in Wyoming.

For the Senate I don't know. Depends on how people want things to go. But certainly some kind of better system.

Thanks. Well thought out.

What about our current judiciary who often bypass our vote with their rulings and have basically become ideological dictators?

 

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No, I disagree.

I don't disagree that universities could be a threat to sensible life in the US.

However I don't think this is the gravest threat.

The gravest threat is the system of electing "representatives".

The FPTP system favors the biggest two parties. In fact there really aren't any other viable parties. This leads to partisan politics that is getting worse and worse and worse.

This leads to universities becoming partisan, along with religious groups, and everyone else.

This partisanship is destroying the US.

Thanks, Frigid. You introduce an important position to this thread. The two party system is a either a byproduct or intended binary ideological control construct of a centuries long running, highly destructive to the American way of life Hegelian dialectic. I agree with you on the effects of the two party system. However, we are past the point, for the immediate present, of undoing two party damage when the ideological war is ripping America apart across the civilizational spectrum.

Well, past the point because nobody actually seems to want to change the system, then I agree.

But even what you've said is "yes, there's a problem but let's not deal with it because..."

No, you mistake my tone. Counter-ideology is the way of dealing with it. I was agreeing with you in the spirit of American founding political philosophy as a center mark, one too far deviated both Left and Right by their respective radical political and cultural philosophies. We need to get back to the center, however, the de-politicization of the power held currently by America's two dominant parties to a degree allowing a third or fourth, etc, isn't going to happen mid-stride in a climate of relentless ideological warfare. The entire machine is running on the fuel of sharp ideology based division by culture, philosophy, political and economic theory, etc.

What is your solution for high value, meaningful change beneficial to our America of today?

But you won't get "counter-ideology" with the current FPTP system.

My solution is to change FPTP to PR.

Or, better said.

For the presidency.

A French style run off system. Two votes. One for all candidates, the next one for the last two.

Or, potentially a system where different parts of the executive are run by different people, and they're elected separately and independently of the head of state.

For the House, straight up PR. One person, one vote. People in Guam, Puerto Rico have the same power of vote as people in Wyoming.

For the Senate I don't know. Depends on how people want things to go. But certainly some kind of better system.

Thanks. Well thought out.

What about our current judiciary who often bypass our vote with their rulings and have basically become ideological dictators?

Well yes, there's a problem with how the judiciary is appointed.

I like the Swiss system for executive. They have a 7 member executive and each member is appointed by the legislature. You literally have to have impressed people on all sides in order to get put into the executive.

Why not for the judiciary. Right now it's simply a case of gaining the attention of one side and hoping they get into power. Ridiculous.

If both sides had to agree on someone, the Supreme Court might be sensible.