Probes to alpha Centauri

[sealybobo]

Stephen Hawking disagrees with you. But who is he right?

20 years we launch 20 years we arrive 5 years the signal comes back.

The best part is each spacechip costs as much as an iPhone. Hell I'd buy one. But that star and every planet and moon is my families. 1000 years from now maybe that will be the greatest thing I ever paid for.

Hey if we get a signal back from a probe we sent that reaches Alpha Centauri sometime in the next 100 years, PM me your info and I'll send you $1000.

I notice liberals are more interested in real goals like the human race living forever and conservatives only care about what happens to them here and now and after they die. One seems selfish

Only the liberal elites can live forever, the rest of US have to prove our justification to live. The New World Order has a population reduction of over 6 1/2 billion people. Are you lucky enough to be one to serve the elites? God, liberals are the dumbest people on this planet.

1. How far away is Alpha Centauri from Earth?
   More than 25.6 trillion miles
   Sending a person to Alpha Centauri within a human lifetime wouldn't be easy. Alpha Centauri is 4.37 light-years away? more than 25.6 trillion miles, or more than 276,000 times the distance from the Earth to the sun.

1. We are talking about a beam of light travelling 4.37 years away. A object that has to travel that far, hits a spec of dirt or rock and that item is gone at that speed. Liberals are good at wasting money, especially other peoples money.

What a loser you must be. First of all, it's not like there's a lot of dust out there between us and Alpha Centuri. Second, these spacechips cost as much as a iPHone. It's not like each of them costs a million dollars. I'll buy one if you are too cheap. We will send out thousands of them. So we shouldn't even try because it might not work? WOW!

3. We would be in the fucking stone age if it were up to people like you. Caveman said, "Ahhhh, don't bother making that wheel. What are you going to do with that, UNGA BUNGA." You are a hater. Don't worry, the smart people of the world will take care of figuring this shit out for us. No need to give your 2 cents because really that is all your opinion is worth. You've just wasted 2 cents. So stop it. Otherwise you like wasting money.

4. Last week a bunch of USMB conservative retards suggested it was us liberals who hate space exploration and you guys who love it. You are proof that was a lie. The only reason they were for space travel is because they want to privatize it.

Republican candidates seem clear on their goals for NASA post-2016. Aside from Rand Paul, who would like to cut space exploration by as much as 25 percent, most GOP candidates are touting plans that would increase funding and support for space exploration.

How the 2016 presidential candidates prioritize space exploration

Ah yes, the liberal response to truth. Well Mr. Smartypants, how will the propulsion be carried on said Iphone? As for dust, I guess you don't know anything about the Asteroid belt that is between Mars and Jupiter?

The distance between the asteroid belt and the Sun
The Asteroid Belt is located in an area of space between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. That places it between 2.2 and 3.2 astronomical units (AU) from the Sun. The belt is about 1 AU thick.
Asteroid Belt Facts - Interesting Facts about the ...

Also, I guess you don't know that the solar systems is slowly revolving around a galactic axis, so while the computer thinks it is sending(if it really could) a small device in a direction, but gets it wrong, by millions of miles. Earthmen have to plan years in advance just to send someone one way to Mars, but if Obummer wouldn't of gutted NASA to just be a Muslim outreach instead of sending men to Mars, we might have been there already. But the Muslim president must be PC, even if it kills US.
NASA To Focus On Muslim Outreach - Judicial Watch

A few weeks after killing the U.S.A.’s world-famous moon-mission program, President Obama has ordered the space agency that operates it to focus on reaching out to Muslim countries.

I was going to reply back but then half way through realized you're just a dumb right wing nut job who doesn't know any better.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Oh, you have hurt my feelings, boo hoo, sorry to shit in your Cheerios(really I love shitting in a liberals cereal). I just proved to you that there are plenty of obstacles in the way, but as typical of a liberal, you just don't like Truth. Liberals love to waste money, especially other peoples money.

 

[SixFoot]

 

[sealybobo]

Oh, you have hurt my feelings, boo hoo, sorry to shit in your Cheerios(really I love shitting in a liberals cereal). I just proved to you that there are plenty of obstacles in the way, but as typical of a liberal, you just don't like Truth. Liberals love to waste money, especially other peoples money.

The fact you think this is a waste of time and money tells me you are a waste of time.

And I knew the other day when Republicans were pretending that they were in favor of space exploration and they said it was actually us liberals who are anti space exploration, I knew that was nothing but horse shit. You guys are ok with wasting money as long as the waste is going to a private contractor and not NASA. You never complain how much waste exists when the US Government is spending more than the next 8 countries combined on defense.

Imagine where we would be if we spent the money we spent on nuclear bombs and weapons and instead spent that money on going to mars.

Oh, I forgot, you don't see the value in going to mars, even though it might be full of natural resources for us to use when we run out of coal and oil on earth. Forget about the fact Mars is closer to the asteroid belt where there also may be tons of natural resources for us to exploit.

You are completely happy staying ignorant and not knowing. In fact you probably believe god made the universe so why bother looking, right? What a schmuck.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Oh, you have hurt my feelings, boo hoo, sorry to shit in your Cheerios(really I love shitting in a liberals cereal). I just proved to you that there are plenty of obstacles in the way, but as typical of a liberal, you just don't like Truth. Liberals love to waste money, especially other peoples money.

The fact you think this is a waste of time and money tells me you are a waste of time.

And I knew the other day when Republicans were pretending that they were in favor of space exploration and they said it was actually us liberals who are anti space exploration, I knew that was nothing but horse shit. You guys are ok with wasting money as long as the waste is going to a private contractor and not NASA. You never complain how much waste exists when the US Government is spending more than the next 8 countries combined on defense.

Imagine where we would be if we spent the money we spent on nuclear bombs and weapons and instead spent that money on going to mars.

Oh, I forgot, you don't see the value in going to mars, even though it might be full of natural resources for us to use when we run out of coal and oil on earth. Forget about the fact Mars is closer to the asteroid belt where there also may be tons of natural resources for us to exploit.

You are completely happy staying ignorant and not knowing. In fact you probably believe god made the universe so why bother looking, right? What a schmuck.

I never said that going to mars is a waste of time, but as a typical liberal, you are lying about me to try to get me on the defensive(rules for radicals). It still is going to be a long shot, because not only do we have to deal with our orbit, but the orbit of Mars in the calculations, the timing must be spot on, or the mission will fail, because Mars wont be close. Now can you imagine what it would be like to Alpha Centauri? The mission to Mars is a private enterprise where millionaires paid 1 million dollars each to see if they were qualified to make the one way trip. I applaud this, and if they wish to be pioneers, good for them. 6 months of their lives will be in travel. If any small object comes in contact with that ship during the journey, the mission ends. That is their choice.
As a liberal, if America didn't spend on defense your sorry ass would be eating sushi or drinking German beer(or dead). Without defense you would of been glowing like a neon sign, but all you liberals ever do is bitch that your sorry asses have to eat government cheese, or live in your parents basement, or have to steal money from those that work, so you can have healthcare. If there wasn't defense there would never of been a NASA. Liberals are the stupidest people in the solar system.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Oh, you have hurt my feelings, boo hoo, sorry to shit in your Cheerios(really I love shitting in a liberals cereal). I just proved to you that there are plenty of obstacles in the way, but as typical of a liberal, you just don't like Truth. Liberals love to waste money, especially other peoples money.

The fact you think this is a waste of time and money tells me you are a waste of time.

And I knew the other day when Republicans were pretending that they were in favor of space exploration and they said it was actually us liberals who are anti space exploration, I knew that was nothing but horse shit. You guys are ok with wasting money as long as the waste is going to a private contractor and not NASA. You never complain how much waste exists when the US Government is spending more than the next 8 countries combined on defense.

Imagine where we would be if we spent the money we spent on nuclear bombs and weapons and instead spent that money on going to mars.

Oh, I forgot, you don't see the value in going to mars, even though it might be full of natural resources for us to use when we run out of coal and oil on earth. Forget about the fact Mars is closer to the asteroid belt where there also may be tons of natural resources for us to exploit.

You are completely happy staying ignorant and not knowing. In fact you probably believe god made the universe so why bother looking, right? What a schmuck.

Or even if we just spent say 1/3 third of the defense budget on the crumbling infrastructure. We have bridges in major cities that just 'collapse' for lack of maintenance. What an embarrassment for this country.

 

[Votto]

A new project started by millionaire Yuri Milner and backed by Mark Zuckerberg and Professor Steven Hawking is preparing to send probes to Alpha Centauri. (the nearest star).
The probes will be no bigger than mobile phones and driven by a light powered sail. It will take them 20 years to arrive.


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Progs are in desperate need to find more life forms to torment through government.

 

[sealybobo]

Oh, you have hurt my feelings, boo hoo, sorry to shit in your Cheerios(really I love shitting in a liberals cereal). I just proved to you that there are plenty of obstacles in the way, but as typical of a liberal, you just don't like Truth. Liberals love to waste money, especially other peoples money.

The fact you think this is a waste of time and money tells me you are a waste of time.

And I knew the other day when Republicans were pretending that they were in favor of space exploration and they said it was actually us liberals who are anti space exploration, I knew that was nothing but horse shit. You guys are ok with wasting money as long as the waste is going to a private contractor and not NASA. You never complain how much waste exists when the US Government is spending more than the next 8 countries combined on defense.

Imagine where we would be if we spent the money we spent on nuclear bombs and weapons and instead spent that money on going to mars.

Oh, I forgot, you don't see the value in going to mars, even though it might be full of natural resources for us to use when we run out of coal and oil on earth. Forget about the fact Mars is closer to the asteroid belt where there also may be tons of natural resources for us to exploit.

You are completely happy staying ignorant and not knowing. In fact you probably believe god made the universe so why bother looking, right? What a schmuck.

I never said that going to mars is a waste of time, but as a typical liberal, you are lying about me to try to get me on the defensive(rules for radicals). It still is going to be a long shot, because not only do we have to deal with our orbit, but the orbit of Mars in the calculations, the timing must be spot on, or the mission will fail, because Mars wont be close. Now can you imagine what it would be like to Alpha Centauri? The mission to Mars is a private enterprise where millionaires paid 1 million dollars each to see if they were qualified to make the one way trip. I applaud this, and if they wish to be pioneers, good for them. 6 months of their lives will be in travel. If any small object comes in contact with that ship during the journey, the mission ends. That is their choice.
As a liberal, if America didn't spend on defense your sorry ass would be eating sushi or drinking German beer(or dead). Without defense you would of been glowing like a neon sign, but all you liberals ever do is bitch that your sorry asses have to eat government cheese, or live in your parents basement, or have to steal money from those that work, so you can have healthcare. If there wasn't defense there would never of been a NASA. Liberals are the stupidest people in the solar system.

No, you have to be the dumbest USMB member ever and that's saying something.

Obama: US spends more on military than next 8 nations combined

When your bridges are crumbling and defense contractors can convince you we need to continue spending more than the other top 8 countries combined? Wow what a fuck face you must be in real life. Fucking retard.

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[sealybobo]

Oh, you have hurt my feelings, boo hoo, sorry to shit in your Cheerios(really I love shitting in a liberals cereal). I just proved to you that there are plenty of obstacles in the way, but as typical of a liberal, you just don't like Truth. Liberals love to waste money, especially other peoples money.

The fact you think this is a waste of time and money tells me you are a waste of time.

And I knew the other day when Republicans were pretending that they were in favor of space exploration and they said it was actually us liberals who are anti space exploration, I knew that was nothing but horse shit. You guys are ok with wasting money as long as the waste is going to a private contractor and not NASA. You never complain how much waste exists when the US Government is spending more than the next 8 countries combined on defense.

Imagine where we would be if we spent the money we spent on nuclear bombs and weapons and instead spent that money on going to mars.

Oh, I forgot, you don't see the value in going to mars, even though it might be full of natural resources for us to use when we run out of coal and oil on earth. Forget about the fact Mars is closer to the asteroid belt where there also may be tons of natural resources for us to exploit.

You are completely happy staying ignorant and not knowing. In fact you probably believe god made the universe so why bother looking, right? What a schmuck.

I never said that going to mars is a waste of time, but as a typical liberal, you are lying about me to try to get me on the defensive(rules for radicals). It still is going to be a long shot, because not only do we have to deal with our orbit, but the orbit of Mars in the calculations, the timing must be spot on, or the mission will fail, because Mars wont be close. Now can you imagine what it would be like to Alpha Centauri? The mission to Mars is a private enterprise where millionaires paid 1 million dollars each to see if they were qualified to make the one way trip. I applaud this, and if they wish to be pioneers, good for them. 6 months of their lives will be in travel. If any small object comes in contact with that ship during the journey, the mission ends. That is their choice.
As a liberal, if America didn't spend on defense your sorry ass would be eating sushi or drinking German beer(or dead). Without defense you would of been glowing like a neon sign, but all you liberals ever do is bitch that your sorry asses have to eat government cheese, or live in your parents basement, or have to steal money from those that work, so you can have healthcare. If there wasn't defense there would never of been a NASA. Liberals are the stupidest people in the solar system.

Then you will love this project because for one, each spacechip only costs about as much as an Iphone. So if some space dust ruins even 1000 of them, we would still have 199,000 of them still flying around.

Second of all,
Billionaire pledges $100m to send spaceships to Alpha Centauri

At $500 each that's $200,000 spacechips he alone could send up. I'll buy 1 for $500. Will you? Cheap ass.

 

[sealybobo]

Forget starships, though. These “wafersats” would be small enough to fit in your hand, weighing just a few grams. Milner and his scientific advisory team believe recent developments in lasers and nanotechnology should make it possible to send thousands of these probes to Alpha Centauri, where they could beam back pictures and scientific data on any planets in orbit.

“We have done some recent research with some of the best minds in different areas, and to my surprise I have concluded it can be done within a generation,” says Milner. But the ambitious project, dubbed Breakthrough Starshot, is likely to raise eyebrows amongst the scientific community.

The plan involves launching spacecraft that are little more than a silicon wafer 10 centimetres across, comparable to the guts of a smartphone. These probes will use metre-wide lightsails of reflective material to capture the momentum from colliding photons and propel themselves along.

Sails powered by sunlight are in the works, but these only produce a small amount of thrust. That’s why, back on Earth, a 100 gigawatt laser will shoot into the sky and dump enormous amounts of energy into this sail, accelerating the craft to 20 per cent of light speed – enough to coast the 4 light years to Alpha Centauri in 20 years.

 

[sealybobo]

The technology required to do this doesn’t yet exist, but Milner is confident his team can develop it. “We have researched about 20 technical challenges, and we believe that none of those is insurmountable,” he says. “There is no physical law that contradicts this particular model.”

Except the Andaronjim law of stupidity.

 

[sealybobo]

Lubin’s road map to interstellar flight rests on two technological developments. The first is a technique for combining many smaller lasers into a single larger one, known as phased arrays, which was recently developed by the US Defense Advanced Research Project Agency (DARPA).

“Phased arrays have been made in small sizes, and there does not appear to be a fundamental limit of why we can’t go to larger sizes,” he says. But an array capable of beaming the required 100 gigawatts would stretch over a kilometre.

The other is the rise of smaller spacecraft, in part driven by miniaturisation for the smartphone industry. Cubesats, just 10 centimetres on each side, are a mainstay in orbit these days. Lubin thinks advances in semiconductor manufacture can crunch this down to a 2D-wafer, while still enabling a spacecraft bristling with sensors.

 

[sealybobo]

Oh, you have hurt my feelings, boo hoo, sorry to shit in your Cheerios(really I love shitting in a liberals cereal). I just proved to you that there are plenty of obstacles in the way, but as typical of a liberal, you just don't like Truth. Liberals love to waste money, especially other peoples money.

The fact you think this is a waste of time and money tells me you are a waste of time.

And I knew the other day when Republicans were pretending that they were in favor of space exploration and they said it was actually us liberals who are anti space exploration, I knew that was nothing but horse shit. You guys are ok with wasting money as long as the waste is going to a private contractor and not NASA. You never complain how much waste exists when the US Government is spending more than the next 8 countries combined on defense.

Imagine where we would be if we spent the money we spent on nuclear bombs and weapons and instead spent that money on going to mars.

Oh, I forgot, you don't see the value in going to mars, even though it might be full of natural resources for us to use when we run out of coal and oil on earth. Forget about the fact Mars is closer to the asteroid belt where there also may be tons of natural resources for us to exploit.

You are completely happy staying ignorant and not knowing. In fact you probably believe god made the universe so why bother looking, right? What a schmuck.

I never said that going to mars is a waste of time, but as a typical liberal, you are lying about me to try to get me on the defensive(rules for radicals). It still is going to be a long shot, because not only do we have to deal with our orbit, but the orbit of Mars in the calculations, the timing must be spot on, or the mission will fail, because Mars wont be close. Now can you imagine what it would be like to Alpha Centauri? The mission to Mars is a private enterprise where millionaires paid 1 million dollars each to see if they were qualified to make the one way trip. I applaud this, and if they wish to be pioneers, good for them. 6 months of their lives will be in travel. If any small object comes in contact with that ship during the journey, the mission ends. That is their choice.
As a liberal, if America didn't spend on defense your sorry ass would be eating sushi or drinking German beer(or dead). Without defense you would of been glowing like a neon sign, but all you liberals ever do is bitch that your sorry asses have to eat government cheese, or live in your parents basement, or have to steal money from those that work, so you can have healthcare. If there wasn't defense there would never of been a NASA. Liberals are the stupidest people in the solar system.

You think that you thought of space dust but the scientists haven't?

The team aims to bring the cost of their probes down to that of an iPhone, allowing them to launch thousands of them. Such large numbers are needed because the tiny craft could easily be damaged by high-speed collisions with interstellar dust.

 

[sealybobo]

Some are sceptical that Lubin’s road map can be easily realised. “There is no physical limitation, but there are plenty of engineering challenges,” says Paulo Lozano of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. These include building a laser far larger than any we have today, developing techniques to use it as both propulsion and communication for the spacecraft, and protecting a tiny probe from the hostile environment of interstellar space. “I honestly don’t think that we are ready with the technology that we have,” Lozano says.

“The technical challenges and economic costs are so high that it is not at all feasible and probably won’t be for a long time,” says Ian Crawford of Birkbeck, University of London. Such small spacecraft are likely to be limited in the data they can gather and beam back, but it may be worth trying the technology. “If we want to study exoplanetary systems in detail, we will need to be able to send spacecraft to these places,” Crawford says. “Exploring these beam-powered propulsion systems with low mass payloads would be a step on the road.”

 

[sealybobo]

Who will fund such a venture is unclear. “Yuri is optimistic he can convince many of his friends to contribute,” says Loeb.

A partnership with organisations like NASA is also a possibility, but the space agency may not be interested. In 2013, billionaire Dennis Tito announce funding for a similarly ambitious project to send a private crewed spacecraft to Mars by 2018, but soon went to NASA asking for assistance. It rejected the mission, which now seems unlikely to ever happen.

“We are not saying it’s easy. We are investing in something that is realistic in the next few years, and then we will take it step by step,” says Milner. “Flying to other stars is dramatically more complicated than within our solar system. We are only saying that we are technologically ready to do this.”

 

[anotherlife]

I have an idea. Before sending robots to Alpha Centauri, let's test the quantum entanglement experiment one more time with a robot on Mars, between Mars and Earth.

 

[Correll]

I am doubtful of the capability of a probe that small.

Light sail is a possibility.

I would think Orion would be better..

Such a program would be very good for for America though.

 

[Old Rocks]

In 1957, the Sputnik was launched. In 1969, we walked on the moon. 12 years. And a vast difference in technology. In 2030, where will we be, technologically? I would not be surprised to live to see the first interstellar probes launched, and I am 72. I never expected to live to see the confirmation of planets around other stars. Now that is a daily occurance.

As far as stating that we are in a state of moral decay, and will make little further progress, I believe that the first such prediction for this nation was made just after we established the USA with a Constitution. LOL

 

[sealybobo]

I have an idea. Before sending robots to Alpha Centauri, let's test the quantum entanglement experiment one more time with a robot on Mars, between Mars and Earth.

I'm sure they are going to try everything. We have to re evaluate our priorities. I think I read if we can establish a base on Mars we will have access to a lot more resources.

I think we've only tipped the iceberg on what we know and what we can do. That's why I can't stand negative Nancy's who say "it can't be done" yet when it's done they don't stfu. Haters.

Humans will outlive this earth. That's my hope. And I'm not talking heaven

 

[Old Rocks]

I am doubtful of the capability of a probe that small.

Light sail is a possibility.

I would think Orion would be better..

Such a program would be very good for for America though.

The first phone I ever used was a wooden box on the wall. And you called an operator that then connected you with the party that you requested, and anyone else on the party line that cared to listen in. Now, a cell phone smaller than a pack of cards can connect you with anyone anywhere in the world with a cell phone.

I really don't know the limits of small. We are already very near to Bones tri-corder with what our cell phones can do.