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wait until he drops his big wall plan in your lap.
huyuk huyuk huyuk ...
SUCKERS !!!
You were going to tell us what Trumps plan is? Still waitingoh wowTrump plans to kill them. It's a stark contrast to Obama's enable them policy.Why not tell us just what trumps plan is? We have been waiting since he told us he had one ready to goLooks like the PENTAGON'S plan.
Obama's plan was to cheer from the sidelines as ISIS stole military assets & marched them in a convoy across an empty desert in Iraq on their way back to Syria
You're stupid. ISIS is almost done for.
My woman and children are natural born Citizens born to two US citizen parents of White European heritage. Our genes are not tainted with multicultural blood of third world scum. To wish for their deaths is pure unAmerican.I hope your women and children are includedOh yes he does, and can! The key is changing the rules of engagement giving our troops the authority to kill ISIS women and children because they provide the breeding and next generation of them. Full Irradication without remorse is what is needed to defeat them.Trump doesn't have a phyucking clue to what he is doing. I doubt if he could ever find Iraq or Iran on a mapISIS is spread thinner than Aunt Nellie's drawers after Obama and his military advisers some kicked ass.
Trump won't say what his actions will be against ISIS because the element of surprise is crucial.
SURPRISE !!!
the sorry bastard's big plan is to remain status quo, and use Obama's plan.
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you would have been a bit hit in 1930's GermanyMy woman and children are natural born Citizens born to two US citizen parents of White European heritage. Our genes are not tainted with multicultural blood of third world scum.I hope your women and children are includedOh yes he does, and can! The key is changing the rules of engagement giving our troops the authority to kill ISIS women and children because they provide the breeding and next generation of them. Full Irradication without remorse is what is needed to defeat them.Trump doesn't have a phyucking clue to what he is doing. I doubt if he could ever find Iraq or Iran on a mapISIS is spread thinner than Aunt Nellie's drawers after Obama and his military advisers some kicked ass.
Trump won't say what his actions will be against ISIS because the element of surprise is crucial.
SURPRISE !!!
the sorry bastard's big plan is to remain status quo, and use Obama's plan.
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Yes, yes, it all makes sense now! Trump tells the guy commonly renowned as one of the best and most knowledgeable generals in our time his plan...and Mattis, unaware of the brilliance of Trump, repeats this excellent plan, writes it up, and presents Trump's own brilliance back to him for review and approval...ah yes, the dastardly brilliance of Trump! Gifting his intellect and strategic insight to the Pentagon in order to make them feel better about themselves! Truly a leader we must all follow and emulate.... and, guess what? ...
... it's ...
... wait for it ...
... Obama's plan!
Pentagon prepares to give the White House a stepped-up battle plan against Islamic State
Hahahahahahahahahaha ...
... what a bunch of rubes.
I think that the bigger issue is that Lying Donald gave his zealot Trumpers another lie to chew upon in "having a secret plan to defeat ISIS" during the campaign run...when he wouldn't even be able to accurately identify ISIS's strongholds on a map without help.
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The pentagon plan is the Trump plan. Trump told Mattis how to go after ISIS, and Mattis is just repeating what Trump told him.
Bush spent billions training the Iraqi Army, what have we gotten out of that?Really ? They are still chopping off heads, the Battle for Mosul has been going on since last October, and all of this against the "JV" team.if this strategy was developed during the Obama administration you have to ask yourself why it wasn't implemented ?
It was ...
... and, it has been so successful, Trump is gonna try to take credit for it.
How to defeat ISIS:
Tell ISIS that the next Muslim terrorist attack on American soil or against one of our allies will result in nukes being dropped on Mecca.
... and, guess what? ...
... it's ...
... wait for it ...
... Obama's plan!
Pentagon prepares to give the White House a stepped-up battle plan against Islamic State
Hahahahahahahahahaha ...
... what a bunch of rubes.
I think that the bigger issue is that Lying Donald gave his zealot Trumpers another lie to chew upon in "having a secret plan to defeat ISIS" during the campaign run...when he wouldn't even be able to accurately identify ISIS's strongholds on a map without help.
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The pentagon plan is the Trump plan. Trump told Mattis how to go after ISIS, and Mattis is just repeating what Trump told him.
wait until he drops his big wall plan in your lap.
huyuk huyuk huyuk ...
SUCKERS !!!
Trump Administration Just Took Its First Step Toward Building the Mexican Border Wall
wait until he drops his big wall plan in your lap.
huyuk huyuk huyuk ...
SUCKERS !!!
Trump Administration Just Took Its First Step Toward Building the Mexican Border Wall
10-1 ITS NOT wall 30 high as promised.
Yes, yes, it all makes sense now! Trump tells the guy commonly renowned as one of the best and most knowledgeable generals in our time his plan...and Mattis, unaware of the brilliance of Trump, repeats this excellent plan, writes it up, and presents Trump's own brilliance back to him for review and approval...ah yes, the dastardly brilliance of Trump! Gifting his intellect and strategic insight to the Pentagon in order to make them feel better about themselves! Truly a leader we must all follow and emulate.
Or, you could be an idiot.
The pentagon plan is the Trump plan. Trump told Mattis how to go after ISIS, and Mattis is just repeating what Trump told him.
LINK!
That AQI changed their name when zarqawi diedI linked that because I assumed you didn't know what was going on...Here is a great link that explains everything.
The Islamic State | Mapping Militant Organizations
I'm not sure about why you refer me to that page. It doesn't say anything I didn't, though it does present a much greater degree of detail. I suspect had I presented that much detail, folks wouldn't have read it. Yet here I am responding to you, seemingly because I didn't post that level of detail.....Maybe so; maybe not??? I guess I don't care much. I'm not altering my posting style either way.
I think your linked content explains a lot. It's an excellent reference site. (Stanford has a lot of very good reference sites.) Would that people use it and fully explore it.
You'll note that the same source -- Stanford U.'s Al Qaeda page -- writes:
"The most significant result of the Arab Spring for Al Qaeda has been the expansion of Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), which harnessed the Syrian civil war to grow dramatically in size and power. AQI changed its name to the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), and announced a merger with new AQ-affiliate Jabhat al-Nusra, which operated in the Syrian civil war with the support of AQI/ISIS. When the commander of al-Nusra denied the merger, Zawahiri supported al-Nusra, saying that the organizations should remain separate. [64] ISIS’s leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, publicly rejected Zawahiri’s statement. [65] [66] ISIS continued to operate in Syria, often clashing with other Islamist groups and ignoring calls for mediation. Attempts at reconciliation with Al Qaeda leadership failed, and AQ officially renounced any connection with ISIS in February 2014.
Furthermore, I'm not convinced you've read all of what Stanford has written on the page you linked. From the specific page to which you pointed:
What's the difference between the two pages? Mostly topical focus. The ISIS page goes into detail about how ISIS and gives coverage of AQ secondary status, which is appropriate given the page is about ISIS. The AQ page presents content with the exact opposite focus, subordinating its nuanced discussion of ISIS to that of AQ. They are conceptually reciprocal pages. The facts relevant to the discussion here on USMB, however, is found on both pages.
- Initially, many Sunnis in Iraq were sympathetic to AQI and its goal of driving American and coalition forces from Iraq and preventing a Shiite government takeover. The Shiite majority in Iraq had been oppressed by the Hussein regime, and many Sunnis feared the Shiites gaining power. However, AQI’s extreme and violent tactics began to alienate potential supporters. Many Iraqis, including Sunnis, took issue with AQI’s use of suicide bombings and other violent attacks like assassinations; its willingness to target Iraqis and popular Sunni leaders; its perceived foreign membership and leadership; and its intentional incitement of sectarian violence.
- ISIS continued to operate in Syria, often clashing with other Islamist groups and ignoring calls for mediation. Attempts at reconciliation with Al Qaeda leadership failed, and AQ officially renounced any connection with ISIS in February 2014.
Did I inaccurately summarize that? Did I misrepresent the context of what happened? I think the answer to both questions is "no." My earlier post that contradicted you was made to clarify a point of fact. I don't much care who is right or wrong about whether AQ and ISIS are the same things. I care that the full facts of the matter are what guide the nature of the discussion going forward.
You posted exactly what I said. You even bolded it. Do you even understand my argument?
Did I misconstrue what you wrote? It seemed to me that you were saying that ISIS = Al Qaeda in all but name. It does not.
Maybe I misinterpreted the following remark:
I admit I didn't expand the quote prior to responding to it. Assuming I've misunderstood your intent, not doing that is my fault for it caused me to leap to an inaccurate conclusion re: what you were intending. I didn't think I'd misinterpreted you because the post to which you responded stated:Dude you are retarded. It is common knowledge that they changed the name after Zarqawi died.
Are we quibbling over whether AQI = ISIS vs. whether a subset of AQI = ISIS? I have to ask because that's about the only difference..ISIS is an offshoot of Al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), but AQI divested itself of it's ISIS "wing."That's not what I was saying at all
Okay....Here's what you wrote that I responded to. My response to it is in the first (collapsed) quoted passage above.
What were you saying?Dude you are retarded. It is common knowledge that they changed the name after Zarqawi died.
Okay. I will take it that you are reiterating/referring to your earlier comment which was:That AQI changed their name when zarqawi diedWhat were you saying?
Because they changed their name to ISIS in 2006.. Lol
Al Qaeda in IraqWhat were thy called before that?Because they changed their name to ISIS in 2006.. LolDo you remember just prior to Bush invading Iraq, no one had ever hears of ISIS. Cause and effect?That one city means nothing. Are you really that stupid or just trolling?You're ignorant of the facts. You should be quiet when you don't know what you're talking about.
Iraqi Forces Wrestle Back Mosul Airport, Military Base
ISIS all over that Continent. They might be getting smaller, but saying "almost done for" is absolutely ridiculous.
Just a few months ago, CIA director said they were still bigger than AQ ever was. Also, if you go by the Kurds estimates, its ALOT bigger than that.
Obama's plan was to cheer from the sidelines as ISIS stole military assets & marched them in a convoy across an empty desert in Iraq on their way back to Syria
See folks, this idiot is a perfect representation of just how oblivious the left is & was. If you watched any amount of news in 2014 you would have heard about the huge convoys of us military assets stolen by isis & then marched across the desert to Syria.Grampa Murked U, post: 16677260,Obama's plan was to cheer from the sidelines as ISIS stole military assets & marched them in a convoy across an empty desert in Iraq on their way back to Syria
Do you have the date and the location of whatever the hell it was you think happened across an empty desert of Iraq?
Trump plans to kill them. It's a stark contrast to Obama's enable them policy.
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In a two-pronged strategy, coalition-backed Iraqi forces have steadily pushed Islamic State out of the cities, towns and oil fields they seized in 2014, while a separate array of military forces in Syria — including Russian-backed Syrian troops — have squeezed the group there as well.
U.S. analysts said they don’t expect the new plan to differ dramatically from the Obama administration’s approach, at least in Iraq.
“The existing strategy is working slowly but surely,” said Christopher Harmer, an analyst at the Institute for the Study of War, a nonpartisan public policy group.
Islamic State “is losing territory bit by bit so you might see changes around the edges, but it’s hard to imagine the administration will want to completely deviate from the current plan,” he added.