Power in a Capitalist Society

[georgephillip]

No one disputes capitalism's ability to generate wealth.
It fails completely when distributing that wealth.

Nine Charts about Wealth Inequality in America (Updated)

No one disputes capitalism's ability to generate wealth.

Or communism's inability to generate wealth.

Or communism's inability to generate wealth.

Public wealth or private fortunes?

"From 1928 to 1940, the number of Soviet workers in industry, construction, and transport grew from 4.6 million to 12.6 million and factory output soared.[6] Stalin's first five-year plan helped make the USSR a leading industrial nation..."

Five-year plans for the national economy of the Soviet Union - Wikipedia

"From 1928 to 1940, the number of Soviet workers in industry, construction, and transport grew from 4.6 million to 12.6 million and factory output soared

Does that include all the workers in the Gulag?

Does that include all the workers in the Gulag?

Mississippi maybe?

"Forced labor exists in many prisons. In Mississippi, Parchman Farm operated as a for-profit plantation, which yielded revenues for the state from its earliest years.

"Many prisoners were used to clear the dense growth in the Mississippi bottomland, and then to cultivate the land for agriculture.

"By the mid-20th century, it had 21,000 acres (8,498 ha) under cultivation.

"In the late 20th century, prison conditions were investigated under civil rights laws, when abuses of prisoners and harsh working conditions were exposed."

Penal labor in the United States - Wikipedia

Mississippi inmates commit crimes against the Party?

Mississippi inmates commit crimes against the Party?

Maybe they commit crimes against the US State Religion...Capitalism?

 

[Norman]

Capitalism stands democracy on its head by allowing a wealthy few to acquire vast private fortunes at public expense; socialism advances social use rather than private profits.

"Capitalism arises from relations of private-ownership that allow a wealthy minority to control all the resources, tools, and other things used by a working majority to create wealth.

"Creating the wealth of nations is a big ordeal and — since it takes the better part of nearly everyone’s days to do that — the relations people form to organize this endless group-project become a basis for social power.

"This structural power crystallizes into formal power through institutions, such as the political and legal systems, that turn back to reinforce and stabilize the pattern of social organization that created them in the first place."

Marx + MMT: Socialism Through a Self-Managed Federal Job Guarantee

Socialists believe society can be run by a majority of its people who produce the goods, services, and knowledge, and that majority is also fully capable of deciding how to democratically distribute the wealth of its production.

The dictatorship of capital, on the other hand, controls people's wages, benefits, promotions, careers, and how the collective workplace is organized in order to advance a few private fortunes.

In other words, the nuts and bolts of exploitation.

Without capitalism there isn’t much wealth to share.

Without capitalism there isn’t much wealth to share.

No one disputes capitalism's ability to generate wealth.
It fails completely when distributing that wealth.

Nine Charts about Wealth Inequality in America (Updated)

No one disputes capitalism's ability to generate wealth.

Or communism's inability to generate wealth.

Or communism's ability to generate pile of bodies.

Or communism's ability to generate pile of bodies.

Mike Davis on the Crimes of Socialism and Capitalism

It says so right on the name "national socialism". Your rambling is yet a other "it wasn't true socialism" flounder from a socialist.

But your messiah's Mao and Stalin also have their piles of bodies. It is the trademark of socialism, almost a competition for the socialists.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No one disputes capitalism's ability to generate wealth.

Or communism's inability to generate wealth.

Or communism's inability to generate wealth.

Public wealth or private fortunes?

"From 1928 to 1940, the number of Soviet workers in industry, construction, and transport grew from 4.6 million to 12.6 million and factory output soared.[6] Stalin's first five-year plan helped make the USSR a leading industrial nation..."

Five-year plans for the national economy of the Soviet Union - Wikipedia

"From 1928 to 1940, the number of Soviet workers in industry, construction, and transport grew from 4.6 million to 12.6 million and factory output soared

Does that include all the workers in the Gulag?

Does that include all the workers in the Gulag?

Mississippi maybe?

"Forced labor exists in many prisons. In Mississippi, Parchman Farm operated as a for-profit plantation, which yielded revenues for the state from its earliest years.

"Many prisoners were used to clear the dense growth in the Mississippi bottomland, and then to cultivate the land for agriculture.

"By the mid-20th century, it had 21,000 acres (8,498 ha) under cultivation.

"In the late 20th century, prison conditions were investigated under civil rights laws, when abuses of prisoners and harsh working conditions were exposed."

Penal labor in the United States - Wikipedia

Mississippi inmates commit crimes against the Party?

Mississippi inmates commit crimes against the Party?

Maybe the commit crimes against the US State Religion...Capitalism?

Interesting. What would be a crime against capitalism?
Why haven't you already been convicted?

 

[whitehall]

Socialists have been whining about "private wealth" since Stalin was their hero. What socialists fail to note is that a capitalist society allows not only a "wealthy few" to acquire vast private fortunes but anyone can become wealthy in the greatest capitalist society in the world.. The puzzling thing is that socialists seem to think that acquired wealth comes "at the expense" of public interests. This goes the heart of the big socialist lie. The fact of the matter is that socialist wealth comes at the expense of society's interests. There were stories about Stalin's socialist elite traveling to dachas in trains loaded with exotic food and drink passing other trains loaded with starved corpses of the not so elite.

 

[georgephillip]

Without capitalism there isn’t much wealth to share.

Without capitalism there isn’t much wealth to share.

No one disputes capitalism's ability to generate wealth.
It fails completely when distributing that wealth.

Nine Charts about Wealth Inequality in America (Updated)

No one disputes capitalism's ability to generate wealth.

Or communism's inability to generate wealth.

Or communism's ability to generate pile of bodies.

Or communism's ability to generate pile of bodies.

Mike Davis on the Crimes of Socialism and Capitalism

It says so right on the name "national socialism". Your rambling is yet a other "it wasn't true socialism" flounder from a socialist.

But your messiah's Mao and Stalin also have their piles of bodies. It is the trademark of socialism, almost a competition for the socialists.

t says so right on the name "national socialism". Your rambling is yet a other "it wasn't true socialism" flounder from a socialist.

If Hitler was a socialist, why did he kill German communists and give Henry Ford a medal? At the same time Nazis incorporated the word "socialism" into their official name, the US state of Oklahoma had more socialist state legislators than any other state in the Union. Socialism was seen as a global movement at that time and it won elections world wide. Now you know why capitalists started WWII.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No one disputes capitalism's ability to generate wealth.
It fails completely when distributing that wealth.

Nine Charts about Wealth Inequality in America (Updated)

No one disputes capitalism's ability to generate wealth.

Or communism's inability to generate wealth.

Or communism's ability to generate pile of bodies.

Or communism's ability to generate pile of bodies.

Mike Davis on the Crimes of Socialism and Capitalism

It says so right on the name "national socialism". Your rambling is yet a other "it wasn't true socialism" flounder from a socialist.

But your messiah's Mao and Stalin also have their piles of bodies. It is the trademark of socialism, almost a competition for the socialists.

t says so right on the name "national socialism". Your rambling is yet a other "it wasn't true socialism" flounder from a socialist.

If Hitler was a socialist, why did he kill German communists and give Henry Ford a medal? At the same time Nazis incorporated the word "socialism" into their official name, the US state of Oklahoma had more socialist state legislators than any other state in the Union. Socialism was seen as a global movement at that time and it won elections world wide. Now you know why capitalists started WWII.

If Hitler was a socialist, why did he kill German communists

Because communists suck.
Everyone should kill them.

 

[georgephillip]

Public wealth or private fortunes?

"From 1928 to 1940, the number of Soviet workers in industry, construction, and transport grew from 4.6 million to 12.6 million and factory output soared.[6] Stalin's first five-year plan helped make the USSR a leading industrial nation..."

Five-year plans for the national economy of the Soviet Union - Wikipedia

"From 1928 to 1940, the number of Soviet workers in industry, construction, and transport grew from 4.6 million to 12.6 million and factory output soared

Does that include all the workers in the Gulag?

Does that include all the workers in the Gulag?

Mississippi maybe?

"Forced labor exists in many prisons. In Mississippi, Parchman Farm operated as a for-profit plantation, which yielded revenues for the state from its earliest years.

"Many prisoners were used to clear the dense growth in the Mississippi bottomland, and then to cultivate the land for agriculture.

"By the mid-20th century, it had 21,000 acres (8,498 ha) under cultivation.

"In the late 20th century, prison conditions were investigated under civil rights laws, when abuses of prisoners and harsh working conditions were exposed."

Penal labor in the United States - Wikipedia

Mississippi inmates commit crimes against the Party?

Mississippi inmates commit crimes against the Party?

Maybe the commit crimes against the US State Religion...Capitalism?

Interesting. What would be a crime against capitalism?
Why haven't you already been convicted?

Interesting. What would be a crime against capitalism?
Why haven't you already been convicted?

You can't guess?

 

[georgephillip]

Without capitalism there isn’t much wealth to share.

Without capitalism there isn’t much wealth to share.

No one disputes capitalism's ability to generate wealth.
It fails completely when distributing that wealth.

Nine Charts about Wealth Inequality in America (Updated)

No one disputes capitalism's ability to generate wealth.

Or communism's inability to generate wealth.

Or communism's ability to generate pile of bodies.

Or communism's ability to generate pile of bodies.

Mike Davis on the Crimes of Socialism and Capitalism

It says so right on the name "national socialism". Your rambling is yet a other "it wasn't true socialism" flounder from a socialist.

But your messiah's Mao and Stalin also have their piles of bodies. It is the trademark of socialism, almost a competition for the socialists.

But your messiah's Mao and Stalin also have their piles of bodies. It is the trademark of socialism, almost a competition for the socialists.

What crimes did British capitalism perpetrate?

Mike Davis on the Crimes of Socialism and Capitalism

"The incorporation of the great subsistence peasantries of South and East Asia was absolutely cataclysmic. The story differed from place to place, but the final death toll was enormous. India is the most dramatic example, in part because it occurred on the watch of British liberalism."

 

[georgephillip]

Socialists have been whining about "private wealth" since Stalin was their hero. What socialists fail to note is that a capitalist society allows not only a "wealthy few" to acquire vast private fortunes but anyone can become wealthy in the greatest capitalist society in the world.. The puzzling thing is that socialists seem to think that acquired wealth comes "at the expense" of public interests. This goes the heart of the big socialist lie. The fact of the matter is that socialist wealth comes at the expense of society's interests. There were stories about Stalin's socialist elite traveling to dachas in trains loaded with exotic food and drink passing other trains loaded with starved corpses of the not so elite.

You're whistling past the graveyard:

Monthly Review | The Household Debt Bubble

"It is an inescapable truth of the capitalist economy that the uneven, class-based distribution of income is a determining factor of consumption and investment. How much is spent on consumption goods depends on the income of the working class.

"Workers necessarily spend all or almost all of their income on consumption.

"Thus for households in the bottom 60 percent of the income distribution in the United States, average personal consumption expenditures equaled or exceeded average pre-tax income in 2003; while the fifth of the population just above them used up five-sixths of their pre-tax income (most of the rest no doubt taken up by taxes) on consumption.1

"In contrast, those high up on the income pyramid—the capitalist class and their relatively well-to-do hangers-on—spend a much smaller percentage of their income on personal consumption. The overwhelming proportion of the income of capitalists (which at this level has to be extended to include unrealized capital gains) is devoted to investment."

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Socialists have been whining about "private wealth" since Stalin was their hero. What socialists fail to note is that a capitalist society allows not only a "wealthy few" to acquire vast private fortunes but anyone can become wealthy in the greatest capitalist society in the world.. The puzzling thing is that socialists seem to think that acquired wealth comes "at the expense" of public interests. This goes the heart of the big socialist lie. The fact of the matter is that socialist wealth comes at the expense of society's interests. There were stories about Stalin's socialist elite traveling to dachas in trains loaded with exotic food and drink passing other trains loaded with starved corpses of the not so elite.

You're whistling past the graveyard:

Monthly Review | The Household Debt Bubble

"It is an inescapable truth of the capitalist economy that the uneven, class-based distribution of income is a determining factor of consumption and investment. How much is spent on consumption goods depends on the income of the working class.

"Workers necessarily spend all or almost all of their income on consumption.

"Thus for households in the bottom 60 percent of the income distribution in the United States, average personal consumption expenditures equaled or exceeded average pre-tax income in 2003; while the fifth of the population just above them used up five-sixths of their pre-tax income (most of the rest no doubt taken up by taxes) on consumption.1

"In contrast, those high up on the income pyramid—the capitalist class and their relatively well-to-do hangers-on—spend a much smaller percentage of their income on personal consumption. The overwhelming proportion of the income of capitalists (which at this level has to be extended to include unrealized capital gains) is devoted to investment."

 

[Oddball]

 

[Dr Grump]

How exactly have you Socialist/Communist Cocksuckers tweaked Marx just right this time, so that the spectacular failure of the Soviet Union won't be replicated in the USA as soon as you Cocksuckers get control; and

How do you explain why the USA, a purely capitalist society, while not perfect, is surely the greatest and most successful society yet brought forth on this planet?

The one you want to convert to the next Soviet Union.

RATFLMAO!!! What a joke..