Pools kill more people each year than AR-15 rifles...time to ban pools...right?

[progressive hunter]

sorry but guns are designed to kill,,,you can of course do other things with them,,,

Guns have as many purposes as they do legal uses.
Some of those legal uses, and thus, purposes, involve killing.

THATS ALL A MODERN CONTEXT,,,
guns were first created for the purpose of killing,,,only later did we find other uses,,,

 

[M14 Shooter]

sorry but guns are designed to kill,,,you can of course do other things with them,,,

Guns have as many purposes as they do legal uses.
Some of those legal uses, and thus, purposes, involve killing.

THATS ALL A MODERN CONTEXT,,,

So? How does that invalidate what I said?

 

[Rustic]

ARs and the like are just sporting rifles, Basically harmless... To everything but varmints. Lol

I'm getting kinda tired of this sporting rifle bullshit,,,

primarily guns are made to kill, sure you can use them to shoot little holes in paper or many other things, but first and foremost they are to kill, and AR's are really good at it

as for the 2nd A we all know that it was specifically for weapons of war to protect us from government,

so anyone that wants to take them away deep down wants you defenseless so its easier to control you or kill you if you choose not to be controlled,,,

hope I didnt offend,,,

Lol
ARs and the like are sporting rifles, nothing more nothing less.
No different than any other semi automatic, which most rifles are... Don’t judge a book by its cover

 

[progressive hunter]

ARs and the like are just sporting rifles, Basically harmless... To everything but varmints. Lol

I'm getting kinda tired of this sporting rifle bullshit,,,

primarily guns are made to kill, sure you can use them to shoot little holes in paper or many other things, but first and foremost they are to kill, and AR's are really good at it

as for the 2nd A we all know that it was specifically for weapons of war to protect us from government,

so anyone that wants to take them away deep down wants you defenseless so its easier to control you or kill you if you choose not to be controlled,,,

hope I didnt offend,,,

Lol
ARs and the like are sporting rifles, nothing more nothing less.
No different than any other semi automatic, which most rifles are... Don’t judge a book by its cover

sporting is what you do with them,,,same as assault,,,

its these descriptions that confuse the discussions,,,all guns are designed for killing but can be used for other things like sporting,,,

 

[Papageorgio]

Pools are symbols of racism. Not sure why anyone would go to one.

 

[Rustic]

ARs and the like are just sporting rifles, Basically harmless... To everything but varmints. Lol

I'm getting kinda tired of this sporting rifle bullshit,,,

primarily guns are made to kill, sure you can use them to shoot little holes in paper or many other things, but first and foremost they are to kill, and AR's are really good at it

as for the 2nd A we all know that it was specifically for weapons of war to protect us from government,

so anyone that wants to take them away deep down wants you defenseless so its easier to control you or kill you if you choose not to be controlled,,,

hope I didnt offend,,,

Lol
ARs and the like are sporting rifles, nothing more nothing less.
No different than any other semi automatic, which most rifles are... Don’t judge a book by its cover

sporting is what you do with them,,,same as assault,,,

its these descriptions that confuse the discussions,,,all guns are designed for killing but can be used for other things like sporting,,,

Sporting means hunting, plinking, etc...
ARs and the like have never been military grade... They could never pass muster.

So calling them assault weapons is plainly dishonest and ignorant...

 

[progressive hunter]

ARs and the like are just sporting rifles, Basically harmless... To everything but varmints. Lol

I'm getting kinda tired of this sporting rifle bullshit,,,

primarily guns are made to kill, sure you can use them to shoot little holes in paper or many other things, but first and foremost they are to kill, and AR's are really good at it

as for the 2nd A we all know that it was specifically for weapons of war to protect us from government,

so anyone that wants to take them away deep down wants you defenseless so its easier to control you or kill you if you choose not to be controlled,,,

hope I didnt offend,,,

Lol
ARs and the like are sporting rifles, nothing more nothing less.
No different than any other semi automatic, which most rifles are... Don’t judge a book by its cover

sporting is what you do with them,,,same as assault,,,

its these descriptions that confuse the discussions,,,all guns are designed for killing but can be used for other things like sporting,,,

Sporting means hunting, plinking, etc...
ARs and the like have never been military grade... They could never pass muster.

So calling them assault weapons is plainly dishonest and ignorant...

I dont consider hunting a sport,,,,its called getting food, if it were a sport the animal would have a gun too,,,
a sport is two sides competing under the same rules

but if you use one to assault people that makes it an assault weapon,,

and only because we have better they dont pass muster, but they would be very effective in a war situation,,,

 

[Rustic]

ARs and the like are just sporting rifles, Basically harmless... To everything but varmints. Lol

I'm getting kinda tired of this sporting rifle bullshit,,,

primarily guns are made to kill, sure you can use them to shoot little holes in paper or many other things, but first and foremost they are to kill, and AR's are really good at it

as for the 2nd A we all know that it was specifically for weapons of war to protect us from government,

so anyone that wants to take them away deep down wants you defenseless so its easier to control you or kill you if you choose not to be controlled,,,

hope I didnt offend,,,

Lol
ARs and the like are sporting rifles, nothing more nothing less.
No different than any other semi automatic, which most rifles are... Don’t judge a book by its cover

sporting is what you do with them,,,same as assault,,,

its these descriptions that confuse the discussions,,,all guns are designed for killing but can be used for other things like sporting,,,

Sporting means hunting, plinking, etc...
ARs and the like have never been military grade... They could never pass muster.

So calling them assault weapons is plainly dishonest and ignorant...

I dont consider hunting a sport,,,,its called getting food, if it were a sport the animal would have a gun too,,,
a sport is two sides competing under the same rules

but if you use one to assault people that makes it an assault weapon,,

and only because we have better they dont pass muster, but they would be very effective in a war situation,,,

Make no mistake Hunting is a sport, Both sustenance and trophy.


Most rifles sold are semi automatic you pull the trigger and one round is fired… That’s what semi automatic is. And no military would except Ars and the like for warfare... Military weapons have to pass military muster… ARs would never

 

[progressive hunter]

I'm getting kinda tired of this sporting rifle bullshit,,,

primarily guns are made to kill, sure you can use them to shoot little holes in paper or many other things, but first and foremost they are to kill, and AR's are really good at it

as for the 2nd A we all know that it was specifically for weapons of war to protect us from government,

so anyone that wants to take them away deep down wants you defenseless so its easier to control you or kill you if you choose not to be controlled,,,

hope I didnt offend,,,

Lol
ARs and the like are sporting rifles, nothing more nothing less.
No different than any other semi automatic, which most rifles are... Don’t judge a book by its cover

sporting is what you do with them,,,same as assault,,,

its these descriptions that confuse the discussions,,,all guns are designed for killing but can be used for other things like sporting,,,

Sporting means hunting, plinking, etc...
ARs and the like have never been military grade... They could never pass muster.

So calling them assault weapons is plainly dishonest and ignorant...

I dont consider hunting a sport,,,,its called getting food, if it were a sport the animal would have a gun too,,,
a sport is two sides competing under the same rules

but if you use one to assault people that makes it an assault weapon,,

and only because we have better they dont pass muster, but they would be very effective in a war situation,,,

Make no mistake Hunting is a sport, Both sustenance and trophy.


Most rifles sold are semi automatic you pull the trigger and one round is fired… That’s what semi automatic is. And no military would except Ars and the like for warfare... Military weapons have to pass military muster… ARs would never

they would if they didnt have something better

and trophy hunters disgust me

its these play on words that have us losing the debate on the 2nd A

 

[M14 Shooter]

they would if they didnt have something better

They would use muzzleoaders if they didn't have something better - does that make the Brown Bess a weapon of war?

 

[progressive hunter]

they would if they didnt have something better

They would use muzzleoaders if they didn't have something better - does that make the Brown Bess a weapon of war?

a stick or rock is a weapon of war if you use it that way,,,

 

[M14 Shooter]

they would if they didnt have something better

They would use muzzleoaders if they didn't have something better - does that make the Brown Bess a weapon of war?

a stick or rock is a weapon of war if you use it that way,,,

So, "weapon of war" is a useless, meaningless term, as it, in effect, describes any and every weapon.

 

[rightwinger]

AR-15 is designed to maximize the slaughter of people

Pools are not

 

[M14 Shooter]

AR-15 is designed to maximize the slaughter of people

^^^
A lie

 

[rightwinger]

AR-15 is designed to maximize the slaughter of people

^^^
A lie

AR-15 was designed along with the M 16 to maximize the number of kills in a short period of time.

It was not designed to hunt squirrels

 

[M14 Shooter]

AR-15 is designed to maximize the slaughter of people

^^^
A lie

AR-15 was designed along with the M 16 to maximize the number of kills in a short period of time.
It was not designed to hunt squirrels

^^^
A lie

 

[progressive hunter]

they would if they didnt have something better

They would use muzzleoaders if they didn't have something better - does that make the Brown Bess a weapon of war?

a stick or rock is a weapon of war if you use it that way,,,

So, "weapon of war" is a useless, meaningless term, as it, in effect, describes any and every weapon.

why do you think its useless and meaningless???

and as for the 2nd A, it was meant for all arms/weapons, not just those approved by the people it was meant to protect us against,,,

 

[M14 Shooter]

they would if they didnt have something better

They would use muzzleoaders if they didn't have something better - does that make the Brown Bess a weapon of war?

a stick or rock is a weapon of war if you use it that way,,,

So, "weapon of war" is a useless, meaningless term, as it, in effect, describes any and every weapon.

why do you think its useless and meaningless???

If every weapon is a weapon of war, then "weapon of war" is redundant.

and as for the 2nd A, it was meant for all arms/weapons, not just those approved by the people it was meant to protect us against,,,

OK. And?

 

[Blues Man]

The anti-gun logic goes....people are killed by AR-15 rifles....we must ban AR-15 rifles....

So...using that kind of insane logic....pools kill more people....a lot more people.....than AR-15 rifles each and every year...therefore...we need to ban pools.....

People killed by all rifle types in 2017....403

People killed by pools every year? Over 3,500

No One Really Needs to Have a Pool in Their Yard - The Truth About Guns

In the news recently, was another celebrity toddler drowning. As horrible as that is, this tragedy was one of over 3500 unintentional drownings that occur yearly in the U.S. , not counting boating accidents. Skier Bode Miller‘s family experienced a similar heartache just last year.


Why am I bringing up these horrible toddler deaths on a gun page? Because child death by drowning is a far bigger problem than child death by firearms. In fact as the CDC itself states: “Drowning is responsible for more deaths among children 1-4 than any other cause except congenital anomalies (birth defects). Among those 1-14, fatal drowning remains the second-leading cause of unintentional injury-related death behind motor vehicle crashes.”

Yet you wouldn’t know that by the amount of noise we hear from the American Academy of Pediatrics and other medical societies about firearms versus what we hear about water safety.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has recently updated their policy statement regarding drowning and has a web page which includes a list of Swim Safety Tips.

The tips run the gamut from ways to secure your pool, to CPR training for adults, to safety equipment that should be available near a pool.

You know what is conspicuously absent from all of this advice? Telling parents to NOT have a pool, to NOT buy a boat, and to NEVER EVER go to the beach or lake.

Another conspicuous absence is the lobbying of government officials to place ever greater restrictions on swimming pools, boats, and bodies of natural water large and small, and even to ban some pools and boats completely.

Also absent is the demonization of the bathtub industry and the pool lobby, bills to sue pool manufacturers for deaths that they callously enable, and the advice to grill other parents about their pool habits and if there is any standing water or toilets where children play.

Deadly weapon/swimming pool

Is it that hard to tell the difference?

One was engineered to provide excerise, fun and relaxation. The other was engineered to kill as many people as quickly as possible.

Is it that hard to tell the difference?

It doesn't matter one is the actual cause of deaths by drowning it doesn't take a person to make you drown in a pool

The other all by itself cannot harm anyone and must be wielded by a person

Like a Car.

or a knife or a baseball bat etc

People like to say a gun is designed to kill therefore that is the purpose of a gun.

I disagree with that and say that it is the person who is using the tool that defines the purpose of the tool.

What is the real purpose of a semi-automatic firing systemfed by a high capacity magazine? A machine that propels large amounts of lead at high velocity. What could we do with that?

The purpose is whatever I the user of the rifle decides it is.

 

[Blues Man]

The anti-gun logic goes....people are killed by AR-15 rifles....we must ban AR-15 rifles....

So...using that kind of insane logic....pools kill more people....a lot more people.....than AR-15 rifles each and every year...therefore...we need to ban pools.....

People killed by all rifle types in 2017....403

People killed by pools every year? Over 3,500

No One Really Needs to Have a Pool in Their Yard - The Truth About Guns

In the news recently, was another celebrity toddler drowning. As horrible as that is, this tragedy was one of over 3500 unintentional drownings that occur yearly in the U.S. , not counting boating accidents. Skier Bode Miller‘s family experienced a similar heartache just last year.


Why am I bringing up these horrible toddler deaths on a gun page? Because child death by drowning is a far bigger problem than child death by firearms. In fact as the CDC itself states: “Drowning is responsible for more deaths among children 1-4 than any other cause except congenital anomalies (birth defects). Among those 1-14, fatal drowning remains the second-leading cause of unintentional injury-related death behind motor vehicle crashes.”

Yet you wouldn’t know that by the amount of noise we hear from the American Academy of Pediatrics and other medical societies about firearms versus what we hear about water safety.

The American Academy of Pediatrics has recently updated their policy statement regarding drowning and has a web page which includes a list of Swim Safety Tips.

The tips run the gamut from ways to secure your pool, to CPR training for adults, to safety equipment that should be available near a pool.

You know what is conspicuously absent from all of this advice? Telling parents to NOT have a pool, to NOT buy a boat, and to NEVER EVER go to the beach or lake.

Another conspicuous absence is the lobbying of government officials to place ever greater restrictions on swimming pools, boats, and bodies of natural water large and small, and even to ban some pools and boats completely.

Also absent is the demonization of the bathtub industry and the pool lobby, bills to sue pool manufacturers for deaths that they callously enable, and the advice to grill other parents about their pool habits and if there is any standing water or toilets where children play.

Deadly weapon/swimming pool

Is it that hard to tell the difference?

One was engineered to provide excerise, fun and relaxation. The other was engineered to kill as many people as quickly as possible.

Is it that hard to tell the difference?

It doesn't matter one is the actual cause of deaths by drowning it doesn't take a person to make you drown in a pool

The other all by itself cannot harm anyone and must be wielded by a person

Like a Car.

or a knife or a baseball bat etc

People like to say a gun is designed to kill therefore that is the purpose of a gun.

I disagree with that and say that it is the person who is using the tool that defines the purpose of the tool.

sorry but guns are designed to kill,,,you can of course do other things with them,,,

No

Guns are designed to propel a projectile at a target of the users choosing.

Whether or not that gun kills is decided by the person firing it.

A hammer is designed to concentrate the force of a blow to a very small area. The purpose of the hammer is whatever the person using it decides it is.