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According to Reagan, he didn't know anything about what Admiral Poindexter and Ollie North were doing in the basement of the WH regarding Iran Contra. So, you would think that conservatives would have been outraged that North hijacked Reagan's presidency and put his administration at risk. But oddly enough, conservatives hailed North as a hero. If you believe Reagan's story (that he didn't know what was going on), then North comes about as close to treason as one can get without actually spying for the enemy and giving them information on your national defenses.
So, was North a hero? Was Reagan a clueless figurehead? Or was Reagan a complicit liar and Ollie was just carrying out his orders?
Reagan's Beirut blunder in 1983.
241 Americans needlessly killed, I think that was the number.
Lessons learned
Shortly after the barracks bombing, President Ronald Reagan appointed a military fact-finding committee headed by retired Admiral Robert L. J. Long to investigate the bombing. The commission's report found senior military officials responsible for security lapses and blamed the military chain of command for the disaster. It suggested that there might have been many fewer deaths if the barracks guards had carried loaded weapons and a barrier more substantial than the barbed wire the bomber drove over easily. The commission also noted that the "prevalent view" among U.S. commanders was that there was a direct link between the navy shelling of the Muslims at Suq-al-Garb and the truck bomb attack.[42]
Following the bombing and the realization that insurgents could deliver weapons of enormous yield with an ordinary truck or van, the presence of protective barriers (bollards) became common around critical government facilities in the United States and elsewhere, particularly Western civic targets situated overseas.[43]
An article in Foreign Policy titled "Lesson Unlearned" argues that the U.S. military intervention in the Lebanese Civil War has been downplayed or ignored in popular history - thus unlearned - and that lessons from Lebanon are "unlearned" as the U.S. militarily intervenes elsewhere in the world[44]
1983 Beirut barracks bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Here's another fun fact the GOP would like to keep swept under the rug.
Did you know that Reagan dedicated the space shuttle columbia to the taliban?
Freedom Fighters in Afghanistan - YouTube
I'm learning a lot of bad things about Reagan. From Amnesty to this.
I could care less how much toukie Kennedy or Clinton got...
Clinton is damaged because he lied under oath abut it during a deposition...
That used to be taken seriously.... I think it's called perjury.
The Libs seem to have selective memory about that.
Just as they do the Iraq war when the Democrat party gave Bush the all clear to invade Iraq...
What man hasn't lied to his wife about getting his dick sucked by someone not his wife?
Lots of them, because despite what liberals claim to believe and, no doubt, fantasize about intensively, not all - or even most - men cheat on their wives. SOME men are decent, civilized human beings . . . but clearly, they aren't liberals.
I'm learning a lot of bad things about Reagan. From Amnesty to this.
There's a difference between "hearing" about someone and "learning" about someone. You should try learning THAT, and then contemplate trying to learn about more complex issues.
First lesson: if you're believing anything said by Jake, Sallow, or Black Label, you're an idiot.
its interesting to watch certain people flip on their stances with Iran contra, when just 2 months ago the same people where railing Obama for Fast and Furious.
Which both stories have the same basic idea. Selling arms to other people.
like i said it's very interesting.
Petraues, the darling of the Ceci's for quite some time, apparently is now a liberal. Not only does syntax and diction confound our Cecilie1200, but apparently hypocrisy defines her moral outlook.
What man hasn't lied to his wife about getting his dick sucked by someone not his wife?
Lots of them, because despite what liberals claim to believe and, no doubt, fantasize about intensively, not all - or even most - men cheat on their wives. SOME men are decent, civilized human beings . . . but clearly, they aren't liberals.
its interesting to watch certain people flip on their stances with Iran contra, when just 2 months ago the same people where railing Obama for Fast and Furious.
Which both stories have the same basic idea. Selling arms to other people.
like i said it's very interesting.
Slight difference. We weren't selling arms.
Fast & Furious was dangerous because the arms were sold or given out on our borders and were a threat to Americans that live along the border.
Iran Contra wasn't designed to push public opinion in favor of anti-gun legislation which Fast & Furious was.
Iran Contra was an attempt to trade arms for American hostages.
According to Reagan, he didn't know anything about what Admiral Poindexter and Ollie North were doing in the basement of the WH regarding Iran Contra. So, you would think that conservatives would have been outraged that North hijacked Reagan's presidency and put his administration at risk. But oddly enough, conservatives hailed North as a hero. If you believe Reagan's story (that he didn't know what was going on), then North comes about as close to treason as one can get without actually spying for the enemy and giving them information on your national defenses.
So, was North a hero? Was Reagan a clueless figurehead? Or was Reagan a complicit liar and Ollie was just carrying out his orders?
So what did Reagan do for personal gain? unlike the rest of these idiots What Reagan did he did to save American lives He never did anything for his own personal gain and he was reelected in landslide for it.
Democrat: 13 Walter Mondale
Republican: 525 Ronald Reagan
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its interesting to watch certain people flip on their stances with Iran contra, when just 2 months ago the same people where railing Obama for Fast and Furious.
Which both stories have the same basic idea. Selling arms to other people.
like i said it's very interesting.
Slight difference. We weren't selling arms.
Fast & Furious was dangerous because the arms were sold or given out on our borders and were a threat to Americans that live along the border.
Iran Contra wasn't designed to push public opinion in favor of anti-gun legislation which Fast & Furious was.
Iran Contra was an attempt to trade arms for American hostages.
Fast and Furious was designed to stop criminal behaviour. That was the intent, not flood the market with guns.
Iran Contra was to go against Congress and deal with hostage takers AND terrorists....
Easily, by a country mile, a true scandal.
Benghazi doesn't even hit the scandal scale...
Slight difference. We weren't selling arms.
Fast & Furious was dangerous because the arms were sold or given out on our borders and were a threat to Americans that live along the border.
Iran Contra wasn't designed to push public opinion in favor of anti-gun legislation which Fast & Furious was.
Iran Contra was an attempt to trade arms for American hostages.
Fast and Furious was designed to stop criminal behaviour. That was the intent, not flood the market with guns.
Iran Contra was to go against Congress and deal with hostage takers AND terrorists....
Easily, by a country mile, a true scandal.
Benghazi doesn't even hit the scandal scale...
Not the attack, but the response to the American people certainly qualifies as a scandal.
Here's another fun fact the GOP would like to keep swept under the rug.
Did you know that Reagan dedicated the space shuttle columbia to the taliban?
Freedom Fighters in Afghanistan - YouTube
Fast and Furious was designed to stop criminal behaviour. That was the intent, not flood the market with guns.
Iran Contra was to go against Congress and deal with hostage takers AND terrorists....
Easily, by a country mile, a true scandal.
Benghazi doesn't even hit the scandal scale...
Not the attack, but the response to the American people certainly qualifies as a scandal.
Maybe...only a certain sector of the US public seems to think so. Those that hate Obama. Go figure...
I'm learning a lot of bad things about Reagan. From Amnesty to this.
There's a difference between "hearing" about someone and "learning" about someone. You should try learning THAT, and then contemplate trying to learn about more complex issues.
First lesson: if you're believing anything said by Jake, Sallow, or Black Label, you're an idiot.
And if you believe anything the Cesspit says, you are even more of an idiot...
its interesting to watch certain people flip on their stances with Iran contra, when just 2 months ago the same people where railing Obama for Fast and Furious.
Which both stories have the same basic idea. Selling arms to other people.
like i said it's very interesting.
Slight difference. We weren't selling arms.
Fast & Furious was dangerous because the arms were sold or given out on our borders and were a threat to Americans that live along the border.
Iran Contra wasn't designed to push public opinion in favor of anti-gun legislation which Fast & Furious was.
Iran Contra was an attempt to trade arms for American hostages.
Fast and Furious was designed to stop criminal behaviour. That was the intent, not flood the market with guns.
Iran Contra was to go against Congress and deal with hostage takers AND terrorists....
Easily, by a country mile, a true scandal.
Benghazi doesn't even hit the scandal scale...
Iran/Contra along with Reagan creating the Taliban that later attacked us on 9/11
For quite some time, Osama Bin Laden was a hero to conservatives.
Who knows..maybe he still is..
You and Black Label should really have your psychiatrists get together. They might be able to collaborate on a more effective medication mix for you both.
And no, I'm not even going to dignify your horseshit rewrite of reality with a rebuttal. That might get you thinking you're a human being.
For quite some time, Osama Bin Laden was a hero to conservatives.
Who knows..maybe he still is..
You and Black Label should really have your psychiatrists get together. They might be able to collaborate on a more effective medication mix for you both.
And no, I'm not even going to dignify your horseshit rewrite of reality with a rebuttal. That might get you thinking you're a human being.
Whats the matter, can't handle the truth that your dream boy reagan created the taliban and made illegal arms deals with terrorists in iran?
