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Race for US Senate seat in Alaska against incumbent Murkowski (R) had a Democratic, Libertarian and several fairly high scoring Independents. As a result, the Libertarian won almost 30% of the vote. Just 15 points behind the incumbent.

Murkowski escaped with just 44% of the vote. Libertarian topped the Dem challenger.

This is why the LParty is gonna focus on every Congressional race that either the Reps or Dems leave abandoned. This is 12 to 15% of the available seats in every election. If our numbers are going up in races with 2 party + Indies, they are only gonna get higher in races where one of the Name Brand parties gives up and disenfranchises their voters.

US Senate Results for Alaska - Bing

Joe Miller Shatters Libertarian US Senate Record While 8 Others Set New State Party Marks | Smart Politics

“The Tea Party favorite was an 11th hour recruit by the Libertarian Party in September 2016 and his brief, two-month campaign won him an impressive 29.4 percent of the vote in the general election – 14.9 points behind Senator Murkowski.

“Miller not only far exceeded his polling numbers (which usually had him in the mid- to high teens), but he demolished his party’s mark for its all-time best showing in a race for the office.

“Going into the 2016 cycle, the most support ever received by a Libertarian U.S. Senate nominee was the 18.4 percent claimed by Michael Cloud in Massachusetts 2002 election won by John Kerry. However, Kerry and Cloud did not face a Republican opponent in that race.”

“Miller, however, faced a full slate of candidates. In addition to Murkowski, Miller was opposed by a Democratic nominee (Ray Metcalf, 11.1 percent) as well as an independent candidate who had the support of some prominent Alaska Democrats (Margaret Stock, 13.7 percent). Two other independents were also on the ballot (Breck Craig and Ted Gianoutsos).

“The previous high water mark for a Libertarian U.S. Senate candidate in an election in which both major parties fielded a nominee was set by Carla Howell of Massachusetts in 2000.”

Libertarian U.S. Senate candidates outperformed their party’s presidential nominee, Gary Johnson, in seven states: Alaska, Arkansas, Kansas, Indiana, Georgia, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.
 
Unquestionably, we are undergoing a political revolution.

Unless the current Big 2 get the message, they are going to become irrelevant.
 
Unquestionably, we are undergoing a political revolution.

Unless the current Big 2 get the message, they are going to become irrelevant.

There were some pretty powerful reports on voter registration leading up to the 2016 general. The 2 parties were BLEEDING support. Especially the Dems. The total "loyalists" before the election in BOTH of the 2 dynasty parties was at 43% of the registered electorate. I'm pretty sure that this year or next -- the "politically homeless" will be BIGGER than both parties put together.

Independents and 3rd parties determined THIS election. And it's a definite and measurable trend right now.
 
Unquestionably, we are undergoing a political revolution.

Unless the current Big 2 get the message, they are going to become irrelevant.

There were some pretty powerful reports on voter registration leading up to the 2016 general. The 2 parties were BLEEDING support. Especially the Dems. The total "loyalists" before the election in BOTH of the 2 dynasty parties was at 43% of the registered electorate. I'm pretty sure that this year or next -- the "politically homeless" will be BIGGER than both parties put together.

Independents and 3rd parties determined THIS election. And it's a definite and measurable trend right now.

Many people in some states register democrat as they can participate in Republican primaries as well..
 
Unquestionably, we are undergoing a political revolution.

Unless the current Big 2 get the message, they are going to become irrelevant.

There were some pretty powerful reports on voter registration leading up to the 2016 general. The 2 parties were BLEEDING support. Especially the Dems. The total "loyalists" before the election in BOTH of the 2 dynasty parties was at 43% of the registered electorate. I'm pretty sure that this year or next -- the "politically homeless" will be BIGGER than both parties put together.

Independents and 3rd parties determined THIS election. And it's a definite and measurable trend right now.

Many people in some states register democrat as they can participate in Republican primaries as well..

In other states, like mine, doesn't matter HOW you registered. You can walk into any primary and declare yourself a ballot for any party. In cases where folks aren't "married" to the 2 name brands, they should really consider registering with a 3rd party if that doesn't exclude them from the primaries. Because BALLOT ACCESS is determined (partly) by the number of "registered" voters in a majority of states.

The diff in state laws is vast and confusing. Help the Independents and 3rd parties if you can..
 
Unquestionably, we are undergoing a political revolution.

Unless the current Big 2 get the message, they are going to become irrelevant.

There were some pretty powerful reports on voter registration leading up to the 2016 general. The 2 parties were BLEEDING support. Especially the Dems. The total "loyalists" before the election in BOTH of the 2 dynasty parties was at 43% of the registered electorate. I'm pretty sure that this year or next -- the "politically homeless" will be BIGGER than both parties put together.

Independents and 3rd parties determined THIS election. And it's a definite and measurable trend right now.

Many people in some states register democrat as they can participate in Republican primaries as well..

In other states, like mine, doesn't matter HOW you registered. You can walk into any primary and declare yourself a ballot for any party. In cases where folks aren't "married" to the 2 name brands, they should really consider registering with a 3rd party if that doesn't exclude them from the primaries. Because BALLOT ACCESS is determined (partly) by the number of "registered" voters in a majority of states.

The diff in state laws is vast and confusing. Help the Independents and 3rd parties if you can..

I am a registered independent, I can\t stand either party. But the far left is the most dangerous.
 
Race for US Senate seat in Alaska against incumbent Murkowski (R) had a Democratic, Libertarian and several fairly high scoring Independents. As a result, the Libertarian won almost 30% of the vote. Just 15 points behind the incumbent.

Murkowski escaped with just 44% of the vote. Libertarian topped the Dem challenger.

This is why the LParty is gonna focus on every Congressional race that either the Reps or Dems leave abandoned. This is 12 to 15% of the available seats in every election. If our numbers are going up in races with 2 party + Indies, they are only gonna get higher in races where one of the Name Brand parties gives up and disenfranchises their voters.

US Senate Results for Alaska - Bing

Joe Miller Shatters Libertarian US Senate Record While 8 Others Set New State Party Marks | Smart Politics

“The Tea Party favorite was an 11th hour recruit by the Libertarian Party in September 2016 and his brief, two-month campaign won him an impressive 29.4 percent of the vote in the general election – 14.9 points behind Senator Murkowski.

“Miller not only far exceeded his polling numbers (which usually had him in the mid- to high teens), but he demolished his party’s mark for its all-time best showing in a race for the office.

“Going into the 2016 cycle, the most support ever received by a Libertarian U.S. Senate nominee was the 18.4 percent claimed by Michael Cloud in Massachusetts 2002 election won by John Kerry. However, Kerry and Cloud did not face a Republican opponent in that race.”

“Miller, however, faced a full slate of candidates. In addition to Murkowski, Miller was opposed by a Democratic nominee (Ray Metcalf, 11.1 percent) as well as an independent candidate who had the support of some prominent Alaska Democrats (Margaret Stock, 13.7 percent). Two other independents were also on the ballot (Breck Craig and Ted Gianoutsos).

“The previous high water mark for a Libertarian U.S. Senate candidate in an election in which both major parties fielded a nominee was set by Carla Howell of Massachusetts in 2000.”

Libertarian U.S. Senate candidates outperformed their party’s presidential nominee, Gary Johnson, in seven states: Alaska, Arkansas, Kansas, Indiana, Georgia, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.
Joe Miller was the Tea Party Republican who defeated Murkowski in the 2010 Republican primary....

He did worse as a Libertarian than he did as the Republican nominee who lost to a write-in candidate...
 
Race for US Senate seat in Alaska against incumbent Murkowski (R) had a Democratic, Libertarian and several fairly high scoring Independents. As a result, the Libertarian won almost 30% of the vote. Just 15 points behind the incumbent.

Murkowski escaped with just 44% of the vote. Libertarian topped the Dem challenger.

This is why the LParty is gonna focus on every Congressional race that either the Reps or Dems leave abandoned. This is 12 to 15% of the available seats in every election. If our numbers are going up in races with 2 party + Indies, they are only gonna get higher in races where one of the Name Brand parties gives up and disenfranchises their voters.

US Senate Results for Alaska - Bing

Joe Miller Shatters Libertarian US Senate Record While 8 Others Set New State Party Marks | Smart Politics

“The Tea Party favorite was an 11th hour recruit by the Libertarian Party in September 2016 and his brief, two-month campaign won him an impressive 29.4 percent of the vote in the general election – 14.9 points behind Senator Murkowski.

“Miller not only far exceeded his polling numbers (which usually had him in the mid- to high teens), but he demolished his party’s mark for its all-time best showing in a race for the office.

“Going into the 2016 cycle, the most support ever received by a Libertarian U.S. Senate nominee was the 18.4 percent claimed by Michael Cloud in Massachusetts 2002 election won by John Kerry. However, Kerry and Cloud did not face a Republican opponent in that race.”

“Miller, however, faced a full slate of candidates. In addition to Murkowski, Miller was opposed by a Democratic nominee (Ray Metcalf, 11.1 percent) as well as an independent candidate who had the support of some prominent Alaska Democrats (Margaret Stock, 13.7 percent). Two other independents were also on the ballot (Breck Craig and Ted Gianoutsos).

“The previous high water mark for a Libertarian U.S. Senate candidate in an election in which both major parties fielded a nominee was set by Carla Howell of Massachusetts in 2000.”

Libertarian U.S. Senate candidates outperformed their party’s presidential nominee, Gary Johnson, in seven states: Alaska, Arkansas, Kansas, Indiana, Georgia, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.
Joe Miller was the Tea Party Republican who defeated Murkowski in the 2010 Republican primary....

He did worse as a Libertarian than he did as the Republican nominee who lost to a write-in candidate...

She's been the Senator since 2008 election. Confused by that. :dunno:
 
Race for US Senate seat in Alaska against incumbent Murkowski (R) had a Democratic, Libertarian and several fairly high scoring Independents. As a result, the Libertarian won almost 30% of the vote. Just 15 points behind the incumbent.

Murkowski escaped with just 44% of the vote. Libertarian topped the Dem challenger.

This is why the LParty is gonna focus on every Congressional race that either the Reps or Dems leave abandoned. This is 12 to 15% of the available seats in every election. If our numbers are going up in races with 2 party + Indies, they are only gonna get higher in races where one of the Name Brand parties gives up and disenfranchises their voters.

US Senate Results for Alaska - Bing

Joe Miller Shatters Libertarian US Senate Record While 8 Others Set New State Party Marks | Smart Politics

“The Tea Party favorite was an 11th hour recruit by the Libertarian Party in September 2016 and his brief, two-month campaign won him an impressive 29.4 percent of the vote in the general election – 14.9 points behind Senator Murkowski.

“Miller not only far exceeded his polling numbers (which usually had him in the mid- to high teens), but he demolished his party’s mark for its all-time best showing in a race for the office.

“Going into the 2016 cycle, the most support ever received by a Libertarian U.S. Senate nominee was the 18.4 percent claimed by Michael Cloud in Massachusetts 2002 election won by John Kerry. However, Kerry and Cloud did not face a Republican opponent in that race.”

“Miller, however, faced a full slate of candidates. In addition to Murkowski, Miller was opposed by a Democratic nominee (Ray Metcalf, 11.1 percent) as well as an independent candidate who had the support of some prominent Alaska Democrats (Margaret Stock, 13.7 percent). Two other independents were also on the ballot (Breck Craig and Ted Gianoutsos).

“The previous high water mark for a Libertarian U.S. Senate candidate in an election in which both major parties fielded a nominee was set by Carla Howell of Massachusetts in 2000.”

Libertarian U.S. Senate candidates outperformed their party’s presidential nominee, Gary Johnson, in seven states: Alaska, Arkansas, Kansas, Indiana, Georgia, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.
Joe Miller was the Tea Party Republican who defeated Murkowski in the 2010 Republican primary....

He did worse as a Libertarian than he did as the Republican nominee who lost to a write-in candidate...

She's been the Senator since 2008 election. Confused by that. :dunno:

When it comes to being President the two/one party system has made sure it is very difficult for anyone else to get into the game.
 
Race for US Senate seat in Alaska against incumbent Murkowski (R) had a Democratic, Libertarian and several fairly high scoring Independents. As a result, the Libertarian won almost 30% of the vote. Just 15 points behind the incumbent.

Murkowski escaped with just 44% of the vote. Libertarian topped the Dem challenger.

This is why the LParty is gonna focus on every Congressional race that either the Reps or Dems leave abandoned. This is 12 to 15% of the available seats in every election. If our numbers are going up in races with 2 party + Indies, they are only gonna get higher in races where one of the Name Brand parties gives up and disenfranchises their voters.

US Senate Results for Alaska - Bing

Joe Miller Shatters Libertarian US Senate Record While 8 Others Set New State Party Marks | Smart Politics

“The Tea Party favorite was an 11th hour recruit by the Libertarian Party in September 2016 and his brief, two-month campaign won him an impressive 29.4 percent of the vote in the general election – 14.9 points behind Senator Murkowski.

“Miller not only far exceeded his polling numbers (which usually had him in the mid- to high teens), but he demolished his party’s mark for its all-time best showing in a race for the office.

“Going into the 2016 cycle, the most support ever received by a Libertarian U.S. Senate nominee was the 18.4 percent claimed by Michael Cloud in Massachusetts 2002 election won by John Kerry. However, Kerry and Cloud did not face a Republican opponent in that race.”

“Miller, however, faced a full slate of candidates. In addition to Murkowski, Miller was opposed by a Democratic nominee (Ray Metcalf, 11.1 percent) as well as an independent candidate who had the support of some prominent Alaska Democrats (Margaret Stock, 13.7 percent). Two other independents were also on the ballot (Breck Craig and Ted Gianoutsos).

“The previous high water mark for a Libertarian U.S. Senate candidate in an election in which both major parties fielded a nominee was set by Carla Howell of Massachusetts in 2000.”

Libertarian U.S. Senate candidates outperformed their party’s presidential nominee, Gary Johnson, in seven states: Alaska, Arkansas, Kansas, Indiana, Georgia, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.
Joe Miller was the Tea Party Republican who defeated Murkowski in the 2010 Republican primary....

He did worse as a Libertarian than he did as the Republican nominee who lost to a write-in candidate...

She's been the Senator since 2008 election. Confused by that. :dunno:

Oh ---- nevermind. That was the strange deal where Murkowski came back as a write-in and won... One of those reasons to KEEP write-ins as a choice on ballots. Not like Cali -- who no longer ALLOWS write-ins in the General election.......
 
It's just a matter of time before the career politicians are no longer in office. This election proved that there are enough people fed up with 'business as usual' when it comes to our government, that something can and will be done about it by the public.
 
Race for US Senate seat in Alaska against incumbent Murkowski (R) had a Democratic, Libertarian and several fairly high scoring Independents. As a result, the Libertarian won almost 30% of the vote. Just 15 points behind the incumbent.

Murkowski escaped with just 44% of the vote. Libertarian topped the Dem challenger.

This is why the LParty is gonna focus on every Congressional race that either the Reps or Dems leave abandoned. This is 12 to 15% of the available seats in every election. If our numbers are going up in races with 2 party + Indies, they are only gonna get higher in races where one of the Name Brand parties gives up and disenfranchises their voters.

US Senate Results for Alaska - Bing

Joe Miller Shatters Libertarian US Senate Record While 8 Others Set New State Party Marks | Smart Politics

“The Tea Party favorite was an 11th hour recruit by the Libertarian Party in September 2016 and his brief, two-month campaign won him an impressive 29.4 percent of the vote in the general election – 14.9 points behind Senator Murkowski.

“Miller not only far exceeded his polling numbers (which usually had him in the mid- to high teens), but he demolished his party’s mark for its all-time best showing in a race for the office.

“Going into the 2016 cycle, the most support ever received by a Libertarian U.S. Senate nominee was the 18.4 percent claimed by Michael Cloud in Massachusetts 2002 election won by John Kerry. However, Kerry and Cloud did not face a Republican opponent in that race.”

“Miller, however, faced a full slate of candidates. In addition to Murkowski, Miller was opposed by a Democratic nominee (Ray Metcalf, 11.1 percent) as well as an independent candidate who had the support of some prominent Alaska Democrats (Margaret Stock, 13.7 percent). Two other independents were also on the ballot (Breck Craig and Ted Gianoutsos).

“The previous high water mark for a Libertarian U.S. Senate candidate in an election in which both major parties fielded a nominee was set by Carla Howell of Massachusetts in 2000.”

Libertarian U.S. Senate candidates outperformed their party’s presidential nominee, Gary Johnson, in seven states: Alaska, Arkansas, Kansas, Indiana, Georgia, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.
Joe Miller was the Tea Party Republican who defeated Murkowski in the 2010 Republican primary....

He did worse as a Libertarian than he did as the Republican nominee who lost to a write-in candidate...

She's been the Senator since 2008 election. Confused by that. :dunno:

Oh ---- nevermind. That was the strange deal where Murkowski came back as a write-in and won... One of those reasons to KEEP write-ins as a choice on ballots. Not like Cali -- who no longer ALLOWS write-ins in the General election.......


Is that true about California? No write ins???
 
The problem with the Libertarian party this go around is it was infiltrated by establishment pols.

It would have been much more successful in a year where people were sick of the establishment, if they had actually run. . . well, Libertarians.

All of the Libertarians I know, just didn't vote this go around. They were mildly disappointed with Johnson, but absolutely disgusted with Weld. It's like the more power and recognition the Libertarians get, the more the establishment corrupts them and the more they resemble the other two parties.
 
Miller had name recognition as well. I wish Alaska would become independent. I remember when he beat her in a primary....loved that then that evil woman won as a write in....Libertarian's should have run Miller as their presidential candidate might have done better than that clown duo of the 2 fake libertarians especially that idiot VP candidate.
 
Fair warning, the reason Miller got so high (though I think not high enough as I was hopping to unseat the woman finally) was because Murkowski had come out against Trump and pissed off the base up here.

Alaska's kind of funky compared to the lower 48, I think we've always been a lot more friendly to party outsiders. We tend to vote in a number of Dems, Independents and nonparty folks up here, but we almost always go Rep on pres so her comments of non support (when we the people supported the r candidate) pissed off a lot of folks. I voted for Miller myself.

Alaska's kind of funny, our dems aren't like the lower 48 liberals, they're idk more center. True too that as long as you don't fuck up, you'll get reelected as a general rule. Folks up here in general are happy with how things are going so the vast majority of incumbents win. That geazer Don Young's been sitting at the head for seems like 60 years or some shit can't unseat him no matter how much he gives away. It's like a "we owe you vote" (cause he did a lot when he was younger and idk managed to not fall asleep heh)
 
I spent 18 months in Alaska years ago, beautiful country, the people like everywhere are all over the place politically, although there was a rumor it was a great place to hide. lol

I'm no fan of libertarianism, a few links below. One item that I never see online is information on the powers or the monies that manage so much of the idea sphere in America. So that said for the interested reader a few highly recommended books.

'Invisible Hands: The Businessmen's Crusade Against the New Deal' Kim Phillips-Fein
"Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right" Jane Mayer

http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-flame-zone/189696-libertarian-flame.html
http://www.usmessageboard.com/clean...od-books-on-libertarianism-3.html#post7425296

"Libertarians - anarchists who want the police to protect them from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson
 
Unquestionably, we are undergoing a political revolution.

Unless the current Big 2 get the message, they are going to become irrelevant.

There were some pretty powerful reports on voter registration leading up to the 2016 general. The 2 parties were BLEEDING support. Especially the Dems. The total "loyalists" before the election in BOTH of the 2 dynasty parties was at 43% of the registered electorate. I'm pretty sure that this year or next -- the "politically homeless" will be BIGGER than both parties put together.

Independents and 3rd parties determined THIS election. And it's a definite and measurable trend right now.

Many people in some states register democrat as they can participate in Republican primaries as well..

In other states, like mine, doesn't matter HOW you registered. You can walk into any primary and declare yourself a ballot for any party. In cases where folks aren't "married" to the 2 name brands, they should really consider registering with a 3rd party if that doesn't exclude them from the primaries. Because BALLOT ACCESS is determined (partly) by the number of "registered" voters in a majority of states.

The diff in state laws is vast and confusing. Help the Independents and 3rd parties if you can..

I am a registered independent, I can\t stand either party. But the far left is the most dangerous.

Says a far right drone!

Yes we know you are far left drone and Hilary voter!
 
There were some pretty powerful reports on voter registration leading up to the 2016 general. The 2 parties were BLEEDING support. Especially the Dems. The total "loyalists" before the election in BOTH of the 2 dynasty parties was at 43% of the registered electorate. I'm pretty sure that this year or next -- the "politically homeless" will be BIGGER than both parties put together.

Independents and 3rd parties determined THIS election. And it's a definite and measurable trend right now.

Many people in some states register democrat as they can participate in Republican primaries as well..

In other states, like mine, doesn't matter HOW you registered. You can walk into any primary and declare yourself a ballot for any party. In cases where folks aren't "married" to the 2 name brands, they should really consider registering with a 3rd party if that doesn't exclude them from the primaries. Because BALLOT ACCESS is determined (partly) by the number of "registered" voters in a majority of states.

The diff in state laws is vast and confusing. Help the Independents and 3rd parties if you can..

I am a registered independent, I can\t stand either party. But the far left is the most dangerous.

Says a far right drone!

Yes we know you are far left drone and Hilary voter!

Yes we all know you're a far right drone and Trump supporter!
 
"Political competition" like in the laughable presidential campaign of the pot head libertarians? Bring it on.

Matter of months before all the 2 party zealots are the political minority in this country. Being a Libertarian means supporting things ON PRINCIPLE --- even if you DETEST other people choices. Because true freedom and liberty are built on tolerance. Tolerance means "allowing others choices YOU wouldn't make".. So it's no wonder you're still calling Libertarians "potheads". We support decriminization, because the jails are full of non-violent "potheads" and YOUR PLAN does not work.. And if you haven't noticed, a full 1/3 of America now lives in states with greatly liberalized pot policy.

We were just 20 years AHEAD of the nation. On pot. But MORE IMPORTANTLY, on foreign policy, on Civil Liberties, on Social Inclusion, on Govt/Corporate collusion, and MANY MORE important issues.

Yuck it up while you can. If I ever smoke pot again, I'll light one up for you as my "sorry to see you go"..
 

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