Pelosi, unconstitutional impeachment

[justoffal]

So far Nancy-pants has been completely riding roughshod over the Constitution with this non-impeachment/impeachment. She, or the House, has 0 authority to expect their subpoenas to be acted upon because she refuses to bring formal charges. Trump even invited her to do so. If you don't think something is rotten in the House you are oblivious. The Democrat party has hijacked the House and are denying Trump due process in a coup attempt.

The impeachment inquiry is perfectly appropriate, warranted, and Constitutional.

Impeachment is a political – not legal – process; a president subject to the impeachment process has neither his liberty nor freedom in jeopardy.

A president ‘convicted’ by the Senate is not subject to a judicial finding and not subject to any sort of ‘punishment’ – he’s at liberty to return to his private life.

If a president committed crimes while in office, he would be subject to prosecution after he resigns as president and afforded full and comprehensive due process – separate and apart from the impeachment process.

No the inquiry is not appropriate without evidence. Hearsay whistleblower testimony from a Biased source about a phone call, the text of which is now public record is only opinion and, I might add, from a CIA operative with a record of disliking Trump. Nancy will not call for a vote. There is literally nothing there.

The wheels are falling off their chariots, the drivers are being pulled out from the wheeless vehicles and they're being dragged through the horseshit but still they refuse to let go of the reins.

Jo

 

[Kondor3]

There is nothing in the US Constitution about HOW the House shall conduct Impeachment of the President.

Everything that the House of Representatives is doing, related to this Impeachment Inquiry, is, indeed, 'constitutional'.

Now... whether it's Smart Politics, to withhold a broader House vote on commencing the Inquiry, well, that's another matter.

Dems can be every bit as Optics-Blind as the Pubs - in their own foolish way.

Nancy has not lodged a formal impeachment inquiry. So far her impeachment efforts are meaningless propaganda.

I've lost count of how many times that conspiracy bullshit has been debunked. Have you ever read the Constitution? It's also hilarious that you seem to think you're smarter than Speaker Pelosi. Hilarious!

Yup she sure knew how to become a millionaire leaglly off of insider trading and you suckers still support the witch.

.

Hell, investigate HER ass too, for all I care...

But first, it's time to force The Creature from his lair...

He's far too dangerous to The People and their Republic and its Constitution, and to our safety, and world peace, to let him slide...

The Creature, first, and then, if you can pull together enough to go after her as well, then have at-it...

 

[Kondor3]

...I never said a vote was mandatory...

Your Honor, the Prosecution rests.

...but the Constitution assumes there would be agreement among parties to start a formal impeachment...

Incorrect. The Constitution assumes that there would be agreement among parties to confirm (vote upon) a Bill of Impeachment.

...That is called a coup...

Incorrect. That's called following Constitutional Law to the letter in preparing Articles of Impeachment for a wider vote.

...Saying we don't need a vote for impeachment because the Constitution does not specifically call for it is ignorant. Without a vote it has no teeth...

Agreed. Good thing that there is going to be a whole-House vote to confirm the Articles of Impeachment, eh?

...Yet Pelosi and some Democrats want to shout 'impeachment' to better their dismal chances in 2020. Clearly, that is obstruction of justice...

Nonsense. Put down the Kool-Aid, son.

...It allows for allegations to fly with no recourse for those accused and THAT is not Constitutional.

That would, indeed, be un-Constitutional. Good thing that a trial in the GOP -controlled Senate will give The Creature his day in court, eh?

 

[Leo123]

...I never said a vote was mandatory...

Your Honor, the Prosecution rests.

...but the Constitution assumes there would be agreement among parties to start a formal impeachment...

Incorrect. The Constitution assumes that there would be agreement among parties to confirm (vote upon) a Bill of Impeachment.

...That is called a coup...

Incorrect. That's called following Constitutional Law to the letter in preparing Articles of Impeachment for a wider vote.

...Saying we don't need a vote for impeachment because the Constitution does not specifically call for it is ignorant. Without a vote it has no teeth...

Agreed. Good thing that there is going to be a whole-House vote to confirm the Articles of Impeachment, eh?

...Yet Pelosi and some Democrats want to shout 'impeachment' to better their dismal chances in 2020. Clearly, that is obstruction of justice...

Nonsense. Put down the Kool-Aid, son.

...It allows for allegations to fly with no recourse for those accused and THAT is not Constitutional.

That would, indeed, be un-Constitutional. Good thing that a trial in the GOP -controlled Senate will give The Creature his day in court, eh?

You had nothing to prosecute except what you made up. In other words a vote is required for impeachment to be viable...That's what I said. Blabbering about impeachment and refusing to call for a vote is called a coup. Trump himself is calling for a full house vote, Pelosi just wants to blabber about impeachment with the rest of her gang. Not allowing Trump the right to defend himself IS obstruction of justice. There will be no impeachment or trial because there is no evidence. The transcript has 0 evidence that can be used for impeachment. This is all a clown show.

 

[Leo123]

There is nothing in the US Constitution about HOW the House shall conduct Impeachment of the President.

Everything that the House of Representatives is doing, related to this Impeachment Inquiry, is, indeed, 'constitutional'.

Now... whether it's Smart Politics, to withhold a broader House vote on commencing the Inquiry, well, that's another matter.

Dems can be every bit as Optics-Blind as the Pubs - in their own foolish way.

Nancy has not lodged a formal impeachment inquiry. So far her impeachment efforts are meaningless propaganda.

I've lost count of how many times that conspiracy bullshit has been debunked. Have you ever read the Constitution? It's also hilarious that you seem to think you're smarter than Speaker Pelosi. Hilarious!

Yup she sure knew how to become a millionaire leaglly off of insider trading and you suckers still support the witch.

.

Hell, investigate HER ass too, for all I care...

But first, it's time to force The Creature from his lair...

He's far too dangerous to The People and their Republic and its Constitution, and to our safety, and world peace, to let him slide...

The Creature, first, and then, if you can pull together enough to go after her as well, then have at-it...

Naw, Schiff won't be pried from his lair.

 

[Kondor3]

...You had nothing to prosecute except what you made up. In other words a vote is required for impeachment to be
viable...That's what I said...

Incorrect. You asserted that the present impeachment preliminaries (Inquiry) required a vote. No vote is required.

The only time a vote is required is when the US House of Representatives in-the-whole votes on any resultant Articles of Impeahment.

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Blabbering about impeachment and refusing to call for a vote is called a coup...

'Blabbering' about impeachment does not constitute a coup.

Refusing to call a vote prior to sending the Bill of Impeachment to the US Senate would, indeed, be a coup.

Fortunately, there will, indeed, be a whole-House vote, prior to sending the Bill of Impeachment to the Senate... problem solved.

...Trump himself is calling for a full house vote...

The 'suspect' does not get to define the Inquiry nor Prosecutorial process... the US Constitution has provide guidelines for that purpose.

...Pelosi just wants to blabber about impeachment with the rest of her gang...

Speaker of the US House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi has been remarkably subdued in her commentary since the Inquiry was announced.

...Not allowing Trump the right to defend himself IS obstruction of justice...

Oh, but he WILL have the right to defend himself... at his Trial in the US Senate... presided-over by the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court.

...There will be no impeachment or trial because there is no evidence...

The findings of the House Judiciary Committee (and others) will give us those answers... you do not know this for a legal fact.

....The transcript has 0 evidence that can be used for impeachment. ..

The findings of the House Judiciary Committee (and others) will give us those answers... you do not know this for a legal fact.

...This is all a clown show.

Bring your buttered popcorn and Raisinets...

 

[Lesh]

The Constitution says NOTHING about how an Impeachment Inquiry begins

 

[bendog]

So far Nancy-pants has been completely riding roughshod over the Constitution with this non-impeachment/impeachment. She, or the House, has 0 authority to expect their subpoenas to be acted upon because she refuses to bring formal charges. Trump even invited her to do so. If you don't think something is rotten in the House you are oblivious. The Democrat party has hijacked the House and are denying Trump due process in a coup attempt.

FAKE NEWS

 

[Leo123]

The Constitution says NOTHING about how an Impeachment Inquiry begins

So fucking what?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So far Nancy-pants has been completely riding roughshod over the Constitution with this non-impeachment/impeachment. She, or the House, has 0 authority to expect their subpoenas to be acted upon because she refuses to bring formal charges. Trump even invited her to do so. If you don't think something is rotten in the House you are oblivious. The Democrat party has hijacked the House and are denying Trump due process in a coup attempt.

I am thoroughly enjoying all of the trump cult whining about this. The more "extreme!!!", the better! Please say she belongs in jail, in between your uncontrollable sobs.

You guys can all squirm until the vote happens.

 

[Leo123]

...You had nothing to prosecute except what you made up. In other words a vote is required for impeachment to be
viable...That's what I said...

Incorrect. You asserted that the present impeachment preliminaries (Inquiry) required a vote. No vote is required.

The only time a vote is required is when the US House of Representatives in-the-whole votes on any resultant Articles of Impeahment.

...

Blabbering about impeachment and refusing to call for a vote is called a coup...

'Blabbering' about impeachment does not constitute a coup.

Refusing to call a vote prior to sending the Bill of Impeachment to the US Senate would, indeed, be a coup.

Fortunately, there will, indeed, be a whole-House vote, prior to sending the Bill of Impeachment to the Senate... problem solved.

...Trump himself is calling for a full house vote...

The 'suspect' does not get to define the Inquiry nor Prosecutorial process... the US Constitution has provide guidelines for that purpose.

...Pelosi just wants to blabber about impeachment with the rest of her gang...

Speaker of the US House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi has been remarkably subdued in her commentary since the Inquiry was announced.

...Not allowing Trump the right to defend himself IS obstruction of justice...

Oh, but he WILL have the right to defend himself... at his Trial in the US Senate... presided-over by the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court.

...There will be no impeachment or trial because there is no evidence...

The findings of the House Judiciary Committee (and others) will give us those answers... you do not know this for a legal fact.

....The transcript has 0 evidence that can be used for impeachment. ..

The findings of the House Judiciary Committee (and others) will give us those answers... you do not know this for a legal fact.

...This is all a clown show.

Bring your buttered popcorn and Raisinets...

If impeachment is going to have any legitimacy, a vote is needed. How is it you do not understand? Besides the 'whistleblower' testimony will be hearsay because the transcript is already released. Try another spin.

 

[Leo123]

So far Nancy-pants has been completely riding roughshod over the Constitution with this non-impeachment/impeachment. She, or the House, has 0 authority to expect their subpoenas to be acted upon because she refuses to bring formal charges. Trump even invited her to do so. If you don't think something is rotten in the House you are oblivious. The Democrat party has hijacked the House and are denying Trump due process in a coup attempt.

FAKE NEWS

No it isn't.

 

[Lesh]

The Constitution says NOTHING about how an Impeachment Inquiry begins

So fucking what?

Read the thread title

 

[Leo123]

The Constitution says NOTHING about how an Impeachment Inquiry begins

So fucking what?

Read the thread title

Where in my thread title does it say "how an impeachment inquiry begins?" You guys just make up shit as you go along. What Pelosi is doing is unconstitutional it is a Democrat Coup. Use your brain.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What Pelosi is doing is unconstitutional it is a Democrat Coup.

 

[Lesh]

Where in my thread title does it say "how an impeachment inquiry begins?" You guys just make up shit as you go along. What Pelosi is doing is unconstitutional it is a Democrat Coup. Use your brain.

WTF are you talking about?

The thread title claims that the Impeachment is unconstitutional.

Explain why

 

[Lesh]

If impeachment is going to have any legitimacy, a vote is needed.

Explain where it says that in the Constitution

 

[EvMetro]

Where, in that text, does it say that the House needs to conduct a vote PRIOR to beginning an INQUIRY?

Where does it say that a vote is NOT to be held?

 

[jknowgood]

There is nothing in the US Constitution about HOW the House shall conduct Impeachment of the President.

Everything that the House of Representatives is doing, related to this Impeachment Inquiry, is, indeed, 'constitutional'.

Now... whether it's Smart Politics, to withhold a broader House vote on commencing the Inquiry, well, that's another matter.

Dems can be every bit as Optics-Blind as the Pubs - in their own foolish way.

Nancy has not lodged a formal impeachment inquiry. So far her impeachment efforts are meaningless propaganda.

I've lost count of how many times that conspiracy bullshit has been debunked. Have you ever read the Constitution? It's also hilarious that you seem to think you're smarter than Speaker Pelosi. Hilarious!

A pet rock from the 70's is smarter than Pelosi.

 

[EvMetro]

If impeachment is going to have any legitimacy, a vote is needed.

Explain where it says that in the Constitution

Lol, maybe we should just have one person run be the house instead of all those other people. That would get rid of all that stupid voting stuff, right?