Palestinian leaders undecided on Kerry's latest peace proposal

[proudveteran06]

Which is another reason there will never be a " palestinian state". If they were really interested in " negotiations" why should there be any Pre- Conditions?

Palestinian leaders undecided on Kerry's latest peace proposal

 

[P F Tinmore]

Which is another reason there will never be a " palestinian state". If they were really interested in " negotiations" why should there be any Pre- Conditions?

Palestinian leaders undecided on Kerry's latest peace proposal

What about all of Israel's pre-conditions?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Does anybody know what Kerry is offering?

Surely not what the Palestinians want.

 

[High_Gravity]

No American is going to be able to fix this anyways.

 

[Gardener]

negotiations based on the 1967 borders?

if the Zionists promise this, the Palestinians will talk.

why? because it means that the settlements, all of the settlements, are only temporary and can be removed.

 

[proudveteran06]

Does anybody know what Kerry is offering?

Surely not what the Palestinians want.

What " pre- Conditions" is Israel demanding; That they refuse to go back to Borders that were never recognized in the first place would and allow " Right of Return" which even you admit would eventually make the Palestinians the majority? lol


You're tight; Kerry is not " offering" that.

 

[Smilebong]

Does anybody know what Kerry is offering?

Surely not what the Palestinians want.

What " pre- Conditions" is Israel demanding; That they refuse to go back to Borders that were never recognized in the first place would and allow " Right of Return" which even you admit would eventually make the Palestinians the majority? lol


You're tight; Kerry is not " offering" that.

Do we know what Kerrry was offering?

The details of Mr. Kerry’s formula remained unclear. The Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz reported on its Web site on Thursday that the Americans would announce talks conducted on the basis of the 1967 borders and recognition of Israel as a Jewish state, but that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel and Mr. Abbas would be allowed to declare their opposition to those terms even as they participated. Israeli and Palestinian officials would not confirm or deny that report.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/19/w...rrys-formula-for-talks-insufficient.html?_r=0

 

[proudveteran06]

Definition of NEGOTIATE
intransitive verb
:
b: to arrange for or bring about through conference, discussion, and compromise <negotiate a treaty>

Read the above definition SLOWLY. According to you if all settlements can be removed that brings Israel back to the 67 Borders that were never accepted in the first place. I would hardly call that " Compromise". Of course to the Pro Palestinian it is

 

[proudveteran06]

Does anybody know what Kerry is offering?

Surely not what the Palestinians want.

What " pre- Conditions" is Israel demanding; That they refuse to go back to Borders that were never recognized in the first place would and allow " Right of Return" which even you admit would eventually make the Palestinians the majority? lol


You're tight; Kerry is not " offering" that.

Do we know what Kerrry was offering?

The details of Mr. Kerry’s formula remained unclear. The Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz reported on its Web site on Thursday that the Americans would announce talks conducted on the basis of the 1967 borders and recognition of Israel as a Jewish state, but that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel and Mr. Abbas would be allowed to declare their opposition to those terms even as they participated. Israeli and Palestinian officials would not confirm or deny that report.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/19/w...rrys-formula-for-talks-insufficient.html?_r=0

Emerging from a two-hour meeting with President Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, several of the leaders said the formula Mr. Kerry had proposed was insufficient because it did not require a freeze of Israeli settlement activity in the West Bank or insist that new negotiations be based on Israel’s 1967 borders with minor adjustments. The group formed a committee to review the plan in more detail on Thursday night and make recommendations to the executive committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization on Friday

Kerry doesn't have a formula because he wants direct Negotiations between the Israelis and the Palestinians without any Pre- Conditions. If the Palestinians were really serious ( Everyone knows they aren't) why are they demanding this?

 

[Smilebong]

What " pre- Conditions" is Israel demanding; That they refuse to go back to Borders that were never recognized in the first place would and allow " Right of Return" which even you admit would eventually make the Palestinians the majority? lol


You're tight; Kerry is not " offering" that.

Do we know what Kerrry was offering?

The details of Mr. Kerry’s formula remained unclear. The Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz reported on its Web site on Thursday that the Americans would announce talks conducted on the basis of the 1967 borders and recognition of Israel as a Jewish state, but that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel and Mr. Abbas would be allowed to declare their opposition to those terms even as they participated. Israeli and Palestinian officials would not confirm or deny that report.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/19/w...rrys-formula-for-talks-insufficient.html?_r=0

Emerging from a two-hour meeting with President Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, several of the leaders said the formula Mr. Kerry had proposed was insufficient because it did not require a freeze of Israeli settlement activity in the West Bank or insist that new negotiations be based on Israel’s 1967 borders with minor adjustments. The group formed a committee to review the plan in more detail on Thursday night and make recommendations to the executive committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization on Friday

Kerry doesn't have a formula because he wants direct Negotiations between the Israelis and the Palestinians without any Pre- Conditions. If the Palestinians were really serious ( Everyone knows they aren't) why are they demanding this?

They want to be in the position of power?

 

[proudveteran06]

Do we know what Kerrry was offering?

The details of Mr. Kerry’s formula remained unclear. The Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz reported on its Web site on Thursday that the Americans would announce talks conducted on the basis of the 1967 borders and recognition of Israel as a Jewish state, but that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel and Mr. Abbas would be allowed to declare their opposition to those terms even as they participated. Israeli and Palestinian officials would not confirm or deny that report.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/19/w...rrys-formula-for-talks-insufficient.html?_r=0

Emerging from a two-hour meeting with President Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority, several of the leaders said the formula Mr. Kerry had proposed was insufficient because it did not require a freeze of Israeli settlement activity in the West Bank or insist that new negotiations be based on Israel’s 1967 borders with minor adjustments. The group formed a committee to review the plan in more detail on Thursday night and make recommendations to the executive committee of the Palestine Liberation Organization on Friday

Kerry doesn't have a formula because he wants direct Negotiations between the Israelis and the Palestinians without any Pre- Conditions. If the Palestinians were really serious ( Everyone knows they aren't) why are they demanding this?

They want to be in the position of power?

Abbas Makes It Official: Israel is Arab Palestine - Inside Israel - News - Israel National News




Abbas Makes It Official: All of Israel is Palestine

The Fatah party, headed by Abbas, has made official what it has been saying more quietly and adopts a new logo: All of Israel as Palestine.


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By Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
First Publish: 12/30/2012, 9:09 AM



Abbas with map of 'Palestine'Palestine' in background
Abbas with map of 'Palestine'Palestine' in background

Israel news photo: Flash 90



The Fatah party, headed by Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, has made official what it has been saying quietly and has adopted a new logo showing all of Israel as Palestine.

The logo marks the 48th anniversary of the founding of Fatah by Yasser Arafat and includes a map with the PA flag and a map of Israel that appears to be a depiction of the black and white checkered kefiyah, a symbol of the violent intifada, and the slogan “the state and victory."

Palestine Media Watch (PMW) revealed that the official PA daily published the new official logo.

For the past year, official PA documents have increasingly shown Palestine as covering all of Israel, but this is the first time the Fatah party has placed the map on its logo.

PMW noted, “Other symbols central to Fatah ideology also appear in the logo, including a rifle and a key symbolizing the Palestinian claim of ownership to houses within Israel.”

The Arab media watchdog translated and published the article announcing the new logo:

"Senior Fatah official in the Gaza Strip, Yahya Rabah, stressed that the movement this year will hold a big, central rally in the Gaza Strip on the day of the 48th anniversary of the beginning of the Palestinian revolution.

“Rabah explained to Ma'an that the event will be held considering the atmosphere of reconciliation and unity that has prevailed in the Palestinian arena in the last few….

“The organizing committee for the 48th anniversary of the Fatah movement approved this year's main anniversary logo... [The rally] will take place in Gaza to mark the 48th anniversary of the modern Palestinian revolution under the slogan 'the state and the victory.'"

The Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) reacted to the new logo by urging “President Barack Obama, the European Union and the United Nations to condemn this outrage which reiterates the clear fact that Abbas and the Fatah/PA have no interest in peace with Israel, only its destruction.”


They want to be in the position of " power" in the uultimate destruction of Israel is what " Right of Return" is all about. They also want to be in the position of " power" by denying the Israelis access to their holiest sites. Needless to say, Israel will not consider either in the " negotiation" lol process

 

[toastman]

Does anybody know what Kerry is offering?

Surely not what the Palestinians want.

Sooner or later, the Palestinians are going to need to realize they're not going to get what they want.
The '67 borders are dream
Right of Return is a dream
The releasing of all Palestinian prisoners, or even most of them is a dream

This is not my opinion. It is reality.

 

[Gardener]

The Palestinians have a right to all of Palestine.

They will accept just the West bank and parts of eastern jerusalem because they believe in peace

they will accept the haram al sharif because they believe in justyice.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Does anybody know what Kerry is offering?

Surely not what the Palestinians want.

Sooner or later, the Palestinians are going to need to realize they're not going to get what they want.
The '67 borders are dream
Right of Return is a dream
The releasing of all Palestinian prisoners, or even most of them is a dream

This is not my opinion. It is reality.

That is a partial list of Israel's pre-conditions.

 

[toastman]

Those are the Palestinian pre- conditions

 

[proudveteran06]

Does anybody know what Kerry is offering?

Surely not what the Palestinians want.

Sooner or later, the Palestinians are going to need to realize they're not going to get what they want.
The '67 borders are dream
Right of Return is a dream
The releasing of all Palestinian prisoners, or even most of them is a dream

This is not my opinion. It is reality.

That is a partial list of Israel's pre-conditions.

67 Borders which were never accepted are the Palestinians demand/ Pre Conditions

" Right of Return" which even you admit would eventually make the Jews a minority are the Palestinians demand/ Pre Conditions

The demand that ALL Palestinian prisoners be released are the Palestinians pre- Conditions.


So, name one thing that Israel is demanding. You can't.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Sooner or later, the Palestinians are going to need to realize they're not going to get what they want.
The '67 borders are dream
Right of Return is a dream
The releasing of all Palestinian prisoners, or even most of them is a dream

This is not my opinion. It is reality.

That is a partial list of Israel's pre-conditions.

67 Borders which were never accepted are the Palestinians demand/ Pre Conditions

" Right of Return" which even you admit would eventually make the Jews a minority are the Palestinians demand/ Pre Conditions

The demand that ALL Palestinian prisoners be released are the Palestinians pre- Conditions.


So, name one thing that Israel is demanding. You can't.

Nobody can come to the table without recognizing Israel's "right" to exist.

 

[Roudy]

That is a partial list of Israel's pre-conditions.

67 Borders which were never accepted are the Palestinians demand/ Pre Conditions

" Right of Return" which even you admit would eventually make the Jews a minority are the Palestinians demand/ Pre Conditions

The demand that ALL Palestinian prisoners be released are the Palestinians pre- Conditions.


So, name one thing that Israel is demanding. You can't.

Nobody can come to the table without recognizing Israel's "right" to exist.

Then why are you a Hamas supporter.

 

[proudveteran06]

That is a partial list of Israel's pre-conditions.

67 Borders which were never accepted are the Palestinians demand/ Pre Conditions

" Right of Return" which even you admit would eventually make the Jews a minority are the Palestinians demand/ Pre Conditions

The demand that ALL Palestinian prisoners be released are the Palestinians pre- Conditions.


So, name one thing that Israel is demanding. You can't.

Nobody can come to the table without recognizing Israel's "right" to exist.

Still can't tell us what " demands" Israel is making. You say that nobody can come to the table without realizing Israel's right to exist? Not so. Even you admit that " Right of Return" would eventually make the Jews a minority. Under those circumstances Why would Israel agree to ANY of their demands ? Hint...... They arent

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

There has been a ban on building in Israel since June 18 2013 east of the 67 Armistice Line to comply with the Pals' precondition.