Palestine Today

[Rigby5]

No, they will still be living in occupied Palestine.

Exactly why Israel needs to start annexing. No matter what Israel does -- Arabs will always see the territory as exclusively theirs with no legitimacy for Israel. It doesn't matter whether Israel is one square mile, a hundred or a ten thousand. So there is absolutely NO point in Israel continuing to pretend that there is a peace partner or that "land for peace" is a solution to the conflict.

There can never be a solution to the conflict because of the Arab attitude toward Israel (read: Jews). So Israel just needs to do what she needs to do to get on with getting on. And that means annexing whatever she needs to protect her citizens and her State.

Acquiring territory by force is illegal.

Annexing occupied territory is illegal.

(You are incorrect about both of those things. We've been over that ad nauseum.)

But how is that working out for the Arab Palestinians so far? How do you think it will magically work out for them in the future?

Links?

Oh, seriously?

Links to what? What do the Arab Palestinians think is going to happen in the future if they keep claiming all of the territory as "occupied"?

Is the sky blue?
Do you see two fingers being held up?
You can't start seeing that which is not true, even if you wanted to.
There is no question that all of Palestine is now occupied and most of Israel is private personal Arab Muslim property that has been illegally confiscated.

 

[Rigby5]

I agree; No one can be at Peace Unless He Has His Freedom

"Free Palestine" or as it's being chanted in full during every Jihadi rally: "from the River the Sea, Palestine will be Free"[1] - is the wish of Palestinian Arabs and their supporters to transform the area between the River Jordan and the Mediterranean Sea, another Arab state (number 23) by eliminating the only Jewish ...

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If Israel had only allowed the Arab Muslims to return to their homes in what had become Israel, then likely there would have been no problem.
But not only did Israel illegally confiscate all that Arab property, but is constantly still illegally confiscating more Arab property.
That not only is illegal, but has to be fought.
What else can you do when homes are continually being illegally confiscated by Israel?

If Israel was afraid that these returning refugees would offset the demographics to an Arab Muslim majority, (which is likely the case), then the appropriate thing to do would have been to reduce the size of Israel, or so a land swap.
But I don't think Israel was willing to do that even though that was the right thing to do, because they want all of Palestine.
They don't want to do the right thing, but instead want it all.

 

[Rigby5]

Arab historian blurts out the truth about the "Palestinian" people

As a result, they will never have a " State"

That is just a lie.
Of course the Palestinians actually are the Canaanites, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Philistines, Urites, Amorites, Nabatians, Akkadians, etc.
But that is irrelevant.
A nation state almost always groups together a number of diverse groups.
Look at the UK, Russia, etc., and you will see lots of different historical groups.
Palestine was a combination, in order to form a more practical union.
There was no one who was from the USA before the USA was created as a nation either.

 

[Rigby5]

The Right of Return ft. Lamis Deek

I agree, Muslims should definitely return to Saudi Arabia.

The Palestinians are the natives.
They were there 7000 years before the Hebrew invasion around 1000 BC.
They were there when the Assyrians kicked the Hebrew out.
They were there when the Babylonians kicked the Hebrew out.
They were there when the Romans kicked the Hebrew out.
It is the Hebrew who moved to Saudi Arabia, helping Mohammad defeat the Meccans, and should live in Saudi Arabia.

 

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1948 and Beyond ft. Sandra Tamari

 

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Challenging the Narrative ft. Dima Khalidi

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Palestine Today
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Sandra Tamari, Adalah Justice Project (AJP), dredges-up issues that are overtaken by events in the last seven decades. In the first 3 minutes of her presentation, she mixes and mashes two facets of Palestinian Arabs. The Arab-Israelis and the Arab-Palestinians of the 21st Century are two very distinct sets of people. Clearly, the Arab-Israeli does not want to fall under either the Gaza or Ramallah regimes. They do not want the human development or the functional economy associated with the Gaza or Ramallah regimes. For the most part, the Arab-Israelis are not fighting to stay on their land. The Jerusalem Government (Israel) is not trying, as a matter of policy, to take any assets away from any of the unique minority subgroups (there are several) of their culture or heritage.

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Yes, many bring-up the domestic issue of the Unrecognized Bedouin villages (URVs) and Unregistered Rural Communities (URRCs); The majority of which are in the Negev Region, and there are some in the Galilee Region. I do not understand it all, but from what I gather, the Jerusalem Government is diligently working to provide the basic services they deserve within the infrastructure that is available.

Israel (The intended Jewish National Home) has a much richer diversity i religions and culture than any of the neighboring states or the Ramallah and Gaza Regimes. Yes, I agree, their system is not perfect, but (outside of Scandinavia) there are no perfect governments.

• See the Full PEW Research Report at the Link • ​

1948 and Beyond ft. Sandra Tamari

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I don't think that people like Sandra Tamari and organizations like the AJP are very useful. But this is a call for the Israels to make and not the outside influences. Anyone can sit down and write an essay on all the things that are wrong with Israel. Having said that, most people could equally right on the weaknesses and failings of the Washington Regime. What is difficult is sitting down and writing about all the positive aspects of Israel.

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Most Respectfully,
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[Toddsterpatriot]

I can see the Semtex under there.

 

[USAF 2023]

I agree; No one can be at Peace Unless He Has His Freedom

"Free Palestine" or as it's being chanted in full during every Jihadi rally: "from the River the Sea, Palestine will be Free"[1] - is the wish of Palestinian Arabs and their supporters to transform the area between the River Jordan and the Mediterranean Sea, another Arab state (number 23) by eliminating the only Jewish ...

And that includes the Jewish People...….. Keep Posting

If Israel had only allowed the Arab Muslims to return to their homes in what had become Israel, then likely there would have been no problem.
But not only did Israel illegally confiscate all that Arab property, but is constantly still illegally confiscating more Arab property.
That not only is illegal, but has to be fought.
What else can you do when homes are continually being illegally confiscated by Israel?

If Israel was afraid that these returning refugees would offset the demographics to an Arab Muslim majority, (which is likely the case), then the appropriate thing to do would have been to reduce the size of Israel, or so a land swap.
But I don't think Israel was willing to do that even though that was the right thing to do, because they want all of Palestine.
They don't want to do the right thing, but instead want it all.

Please tell us what more Olmert could have offered?
Tell us why the PLO just recently made the Official Statement that Jews were not to be allowed at the Western Wall . There will be no response

 

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[Toddsterpatriot]

No, they will still be living in occupied Palestine.

Exactly why Israel needs to start annexing. No matter what Israel does -- Arabs will always see the territory as exclusively theirs with no legitimacy for Israel. It doesn't matter whether Israel is one square mile, a hundred or a ten thousand. So there is absolutely NO point in Israel continuing to pretend that there is a peace partner or that "land for peace" is a solution to the conflict.

There can never be a solution to the conflict because of the Arab attitude toward Israel (read: Jews). So Israel just needs to do what she needs to do to get on with getting on. And that means annexing whatever she needs to protect her citizens and her State.

Acquiring territory by force is illegal.

Annexing occupied territory is illegal.

Acquiring territory by force is illegal.

Sounds serious!

Who did Israel acquire territory from? Any specifics?

 

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