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These 300 employers have allegedly cut their employees hours to avoid a tax associated with President Barack Obamas signature healthcare law was published this week by a prominent investors website.
Well, me poor ignorant con, that would be true if there were a few thousand companies. BUT, there are 300 million companies in the United states. So, lets say there are 300 companies decreasing employment because of the aca. That would mean that 3 in every 3 million companies, or 1 in every million companies, are cutting employment because of the ACA. Now, what that would mean that the percentage would be about .0001% of COMPANIES are making cuts due to the aca.These 300 employers have allegedly cut their employees hours to avoid a tax associated with President Barack Obamas signature healthcare law was published this week by a prominent investors website.
While the post is on Atlas Shrugs [which the Muslims on here hate] the original site is @ ObamaCare Employer Mandate: A List Of Cuts To Work Hours, Jobs - Investors.com
The full impact has yet to be felt. If this is an omen, things are really going to get bad!
Well, me poor ignorant con, that would be true if there were a few thousand companies. BUT, there are 300 million companies in the United states. So, lets say there are 300 companies decreasing employment because of the aca. That would mean that 3 in every 3 million companies, or 1 in every million companies, are cutting employment because of the ACA. Now, what that would mean that the percentage would be about .0001% of COMPANIES are making cuts due to the aca.
So, thanks for that news. Looks like we have NO PROBLEM with cuts in employment caused by the aca.
300 million companies in the US?Well, me poor ignorant con, that would be true if there were a few thousand companies. BUT, there are 300 million companies in the United states. So, lets say there are 300 companies decreasing employment because of the aca. That would mean that 3 in every 3 million companies, or 1 in every million companies, are cutting employment because of the ACA. Now, what that would mean that the percentage would be about .0001% of COMPANIES are making cuts due to the aca.These 300 employers have allegedly cut their employees hours to avoid a tax associated with President Barack Obamas signature healthcare law was published this week by a prominent investors website.
While the post is on Atlas Shrugs [which the Muslims on here hate] the original site is @ ObamaCare Employer Mandate: A List Of Cuts To Work Hours, Jobs - Investors.com
The full impact has yet to be felt. If this is an omen, things are really going to get bad!
So, thanks for that news. Looks like we have NO PROBLEM with cuts in employment caused by the aca.
Yup. My mistake. The numbers I see are 26,000.000 to over 30,000,000. So, lets take your number. So, what is 300/26,000,000??? The calculator would show you it is .0000115. Just over .001 of 1%. Or slightly over one one thousandth of one percent.300 million companies in the US?Well, me poor ignorant con, that would be true if there were a few thousand companies. BUT, there are 300 million companies in the United states. So, lets say there are 300 companies decreasing employment because of the aca. That would mean that 3 in every 3 million companies, or 1 in every million companies, are cutting employment because of the ACA. Now, what that would mean that the percentage would be about .0001% of COMPANIES are making cuts due to the aca.While the post is on Atlas Shrugs [which the Muslims on here hate] the original site is @ ObamaCare Employer Mandate: A List Of Cuts To Work Hours, Jobs - Investors.com
The full impact has yet to be felt. If this is an omen, things are really going to get bad!
So, thanks for that news. Looks like we have NO PROBLEM with cuts in employment caused by the aca.
Given there are 316 million people in the US, your claim is suspect.
Let's try something more realistic: There are 26 million companies in the US.
What's the average over all 57 states?Yup. My mistake. The numbers I see are 26,000.000 to over 30,000,000. So, lets take your number. So, what is 300/26,000,000??? The calculator would show you it is .0000115. Just over .001 of 1%. Or slightly over one one thousandth of one percent.300 million companies in the US?Well, me poor ignorant con, that would be true if there were a few thousand companies. BUT, there are 300 million companies in the United states. So, lets say there are 300 companies decreasing employment because of the aca. That would mean that 3 in every 3 million companies, or 1 in every million companies, are cutting employment because of the ACA. Now, what that would mean that the percentage would be about .0001% of COMPANIES are making cuts due to the aca.
So, thanks for that news. Looks like we have NO PROBLEM with cuts in employment caused by the aca.
Given there are 316 million people in the US, your claim is suspect.
Let's try something more realistic: There are 26 million companies in the US.
So, did you have a point???
Nah. No chance. There will be millions who will get insurance that they could not afford before the exchanges. No where near that many who will lose insurance that they were perfectly happy with. But if I were wrong, you could try a first by finding an impartial source who could show that. But you do not read impartial source data, of course, so that would be impossible.It's a pretty safe bet that the people who end up losing the insurance with which they were perfectly satisfied will far outnumber the "uninsured" who sign up for ObamaCare.
Nah. No chance. There will be millions who will get insurance that they could not afford before the exchanges. No where near that many who will lose insurance that they were perfectly happy with. But if I were wrong, you could try a first by finding an impartial source who could show that. But you do not read impartial source data, of course, so that would be impossible.It's a pretty safe bet that the people who end up losing the insurance with which they were perfectly satisfied will far outnumber the "uninsured" who sign up for ObamaCare.
Just get an EXEMPTION! Looks like a few loop holes in this list:
Hardship exemptions
If you have any of the circumstances below that affect your ability to purchase health insurance coverage, you may qualify for a hardship exemption:
1. You were homeless.
2. You were evicted in the past 6 months or were facing eviction or foreclosure.
3. You received a shut-off notice from a utility company.
4. You recently experienced domestic violence.
5. You recently experienced the death of a close family member.
6. You experienced a fire, flood, or other natural or human-caused disaster that caused substantial damage to your property.
7. You filed for bankruptcy in the last 6 months.
8. You had medical expenses you couldnt pay in the last 24 months.
9. You experienced unexpected increases in necessary expenses due to caring for an ill, disabled, or aging family member.
10. You expect to claim a child as a tax dependent whos been denied coverage in Medicaid and CHIP, and another person is required by court order to give medical support to the child. In this case, you do not have the pay the penalty for the child.
10. As a result of an eligibility appeals decision, youre eligible for enrollment in a qualified health plan (QHP) through the Marketplace, lower costs on your monthly premiums, or cost-sharing reductions for a time period when you werent enrolled in a QHP through the Marketplace.
11. You were determined ineligible for Medicaid because your state didnt expand eligibility for Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.
#3 would be incredibly easy to game. Just don't pay the utility bill, and get the shut down notification...and then pay the bill. Given that ObamaCare can't even verify ELIGIBILTY, I doubt they'll do more than rubber stamp exemptions if one submits a shut off notice.
For #4, a couple could do a Kabuki Theater performance with a fake accusation...and then drop charges. A riskier maneuver, but desperate people may engage in desperate actions to avoid being driven into a much lower standard of living due to OBAMACARE.
For #8, just don't pay the bills, get late notices...and similar to #3, pay the bills after one gets the necessary unpaid bill documentation.
At the link, also note that those who are not Lawfully in the country are Exempt. Aint' that grand, Illegal Aliens are exempt from ObamaCare, regardless of their income levels.
Hopenchange!
https://www.healthcare.gov/exemptions/
A more recent study by the Stanford School of Medicine and published this week estimate that 37 million people may dump their employer-based coverage and buy insurance on the Obamacare exchanges because they could get a better deal.
Fact Check: 30 million people will lose their employer health insurance under Obamacare ? CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
Yup. My mistake. The numbers I see are 26,000.000 to over 30,000,000. So, lets take your number. So, what is 300/26,000,000??? The calculator would show you it is .0000115. Just over .001 of 1%. Or slightly over one one thousandth of one percent.300 million companies in the US?Well, me poor ignorant con, that would be true if there were a few thousand companies. BUT, there are 300 million companies in the United states. So, lets say there are 300 companies decreasing employment because of the aca. That would mean that 3 in every 3 million companies, or 1 in every million companies, are cutting employment because of the ACA. Now, what that would mean that the percentage would be about .0001% of COMPANIES are making cuts due to the aca.
So, thanks for that news. Looks like we have NO PROBLEM with cuts in employment caused by the aca.
Given there are 316 million people in the US, your claim is suspect.
Let's try something more realistic: There are 26 million companies in the US.
So, did you have a point???
Uh, you are quoting yourself??? So, you are an expert on the subject, eh. What are your qualifications. And where did you get your list???Nah. No chance. There will be millions who will get insurance that they could not afford before the exchanges. No where near that many who will lose insurance that they were perfectly happy with. But if I were wrong, you could try a first by finding an impartial source who could show that. But you do not read impartial source data, of course, so that would be impossible.It's a pretty safe bet that the people who end up losing the insurance with which they were perfectly satisfied will far outnumber the "uninsured" who sign up for ObamaCare.
Given the exemption loop holes, the uninsured, many of whom do not want to pay for health insurance, will have a way to get out of it...and remain uninsured.
I quote myself:
Just get an EXEMPTION! Looks like a few loop holes in this list:
Hardship exemptions
If you have any of the circumstances below that affect your ability to purchase health insurance coverage, you may qualify for a hardship exemption:
1. You were homeless.
2. You were evicted in the past 6 months or were facing eviction or foreclosure.
3. You received a shut-off notice from a utility company.
4. You recently experienced domestic violence.
5. You recently experienced the death of a close family member.
6. You experienced a fire, flood, or other natural or human-caused disaster that caused substantial damage to your property.
7. You filed for bankruptcy in the last 6 months.
8. You had medical expenses you couldnt pay in the last 24 months.
9. You experienced unexpected increases in necessary expenses due to caring for an ill, disabled, or aging family member.
10. You expect to claim a child as a tax dependent whos been denied coverage in Medicaid and CHIP, and another person is required by court order to give medical support to the child. In this case, you do not have the pay the penalty for the child.
10. As a result of an eligibility appeals decision, youre eligible for enrollment in a qualified health plan (QHP) through the Marketplace, lower costs on your monthly premiums, or cost-sharing reductions for a time period when you werent enrolled in a QHP through the Marketplace.
11. You were determined ineligible for Medicaid because your state didnt expand eligibility for Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.
#3 would be incredibly easy to game. Just don't pay the utility bill, and get the shut down notification...and then pay the bill. Given that ObamaCare can't even verify ELIGIBILTY, I doubt they'll do more than rubber stamp exemptions if one submits a shut off notice.
For #4, a couple could do a Kabuki Theater performance with a fake accusation...and then drop charges. A riskier maneuver, but desperate people may engage in desperate actions to avoid being driven into a much lower standard of living due to OBAMACARE.
For #8, just don't pay the bills, get late notices...and similar to #3, pay the bills after one gets the necessary unpaid bill documentation.
At the link, also note that those who are not Lawfully in the country are Exempt. Aint' that grand, Illegal Aliens are exempt from ObamaCare, regardless of their income levels.
Hopenchange!
https://www.healthcare.gov/exemptions/
http://www.usmessageboard.com/7906713-post97.html
Funny thing is that you think people are reactionary when they present facts. But you think you are profound when you post unsubstantiated dogma.Yup. My mistake. The numbers I see are 26,000.000 to over 30,000,000. So, lets take your number. So, what is 300/26,000,000??? The calculator would show you it is .0000115. Just over .001 of 1%. Or slightly over one one thousandth of one percent.300 million companies in the US?
Given there are 316 million people in the US, your claim is suspect.
Let's try something more realistic: There are 26 million companies in the US.
So, did you have a point???
You Reactionary Liberals are So Funny. We're supposed to destroy the lumber industry over a spotted owl, and stop irrigating the Central Valley because of a smelt, but 300 businesses cut employees - resulting in unemployment for real live human beings, and you dismiss it as statistically insignificant.
BTW, that is how the IPAB will view individuals once they start rationing treatments.
From the government, dumbass.Uh, you are quoting yourself??? So, you are an expert on the subject, eh. What are your qualifications. And where did you get your list???Nah. No chance. There will be millions who will get insurance that they could not afford before the exchanges. No where near that many who will lose insurance that they were perfectly happy with. But if I were wrong, you could try a first by finding an impartial source who could show that. But you do not read impartial source data, of course, so that would be impossible.
Given the exemption loop holes, the uninsured, many of whom do not want to pay for health insurance, will have a way to get out of it...and remain uninsured.
I quote myself:
Just get an EXEMPTION! Looks like a few loop holes in this list:
Hardship exemptions
If you have any of the circumstances below that affect your ability to purchase health insurance coverage, you may qualify for a hardship exemption:
1. You were homeless.
2. You were evicted in the past 6 months or were facing eviction or foreclosure.
3. You received a shut-off notice from a utility company.
4. You recently experienced domestic violence.
5. You recently experienced the death of a close family member.
6. You experienced a fire, flood, or other natural or human-caused disaster that caused substantial damage to your property.
7. You filed for bankruptcy in the last 6 months.
8. You had medical expenses you couldnt pay in the last 24 months.
9. You experienced unexpected increases in necessary expenses due to caring for an ill, disabled, or aging family member.
10. You expect to claim a child as a tax dependent whos been denied coverage in Medicaid and CHIP, and another person is required by court order to give medical support to the child. In this case, you do not have the pay the penalty for the child.
10. As a result of an eligibility appeals decision, youre eligible for enrollment in a qualified health plan (QHP) through the Marketplace, lower costs on your monthly premiums, or cost-sharing reductions for a time period when you werent enrolled in a QHP through the Marketplace.
11. You were determined ineligible for Medicaid because your state didnt expand eligibility for Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.
#3 would be incredibly easy to game. Just don't pay the utility bill, and get the shut down notification...and then pay the bill. Given that ObamaCare can't even verify ELIGIBILTY, I doubt they'll do more than rubber stamp exemptions if one submits a shut off notice.
For #4, a couple could do a Kabuki Theater performance with a fake accusation...and then drop charges. A riskier maneuver, but desperate people may engage in desperate actions to avoid being driven into a much lower standard of living due to OBAMACARE.
For #8, just don't pay the bills, get late notices...and similar to #3, pay the bills after one gets the necessary unpaid bill documentation.
At the link, also note that those who are not Lawfully in the country are Exempt. Aint' that grand, Illegal Aliens are exempt from ObamaCare, regardless of their income levels.
Hopenchange!
https://www.healthcare.gov/exemptions/
http://www.usmessageboard.com/7906713-post97.html
Where did you get your definitions of how awful these exemptions would be, dipshit. I know where the itemized deductions came from. Just wondered, ass hole, who came up with your reasons why it would be so easy to game the system. because, you see, that is your opinion. And you know how much I value your opinion.From the government, dumbass.Uh, you are quoting yourself??? So, you are an expert on the subject, eh. What are your qualifications. And where did you get your list???Given the exemption loop holes, the uninsured, many of whom do not want to pay for health insurance, will have a way to get out of it...and remain uninsured.
I quote myself:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/7906713-post97.html
https://www.healthcare.gov/exemptions/
Where did you get your definitions of how awful these exemptions would be, dipshit. I know where the itemized deductions came from. Just wondered, ass hole, who came up with your reasons why it would be so easy to game the system. because, you see, that is your opinion. And you know how much I value your opinion.From the government, dumbass.Uh, you are quoting yourself??? So, you are an expert on the subject, eh. What are your qualifications. And where did you get your list???
https://www.healthcare.gov/exemptions/
