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I am aware the definition of "******" never used to mention race, skin color, et al. It just said "a trashy person."

:lol:

Where did you learn that bull shit? The word ****** evolved from negro, which I'm pretty sure has something to do with race and skin color. :lol:

You are incorrect. I read it in the American Heritage dictionary in 1977, as a matter of fact.

I believe that probably is a fact... that you read such bullshit in a dictionary in 1977.

Doesn't necessarily make it correct.
 
Gunny,

Feel free to research the etymology beyond wikipedia. Simply googling "etymology ******" should be suffiecient.

excerpt from wiki:

Earlier variants (such as neger or negar) derive from the Spanish/Portuguese word negro, meaning "black", and probably also the French nègre, which has also been used pejoratively (but also positively as in Négritude), derived from negro (the ordinary French word for "black" being noir). Both negro and noir (and therefore also nègre and ******) ultimately come from nigrum, the accusative form of the Latin word niger (pronounced [ˈniɡer], with the final r being trilled), simply meaning "black".

In Colonial America, negars was used in 1619 by John Rolfe, describing slaves shipped to Virginia colony.[5] Neger (sometimes spelled "neggar") also prevailed in northern New York under the Dutch and also in Philadelphia, in its Moravian and Pennsylvania Dutch communities. For example, the African Burial Ground in New York City was originally known as "Begraafplaats van de Neger" (Dutch phrase meaning "Cemetery of the negro" in English).

In the United States the word ****** was not always considered derogatory,[citation needed] but was instead used by many as merely denotative of black skin, as it was in other parts of the English-speaking world. In nineteenth-century literature, there are many uses of the word ****** with no pejorative connotation. Charles Dickens, and Joseph Conrad (who published The ****** of the 'Narcissus' in 1897) used the word without racist intent. Mark Twain often put the word into the mouths of his characters, white and black, but did not use the word when writing as himself in his autobiographical Life on the Mississippi.

****** - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Or, if you prefer you can simply continue to cling to a bogus definition you read in a substandard dictionary 32 years ago. :tongue:
 
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Gunny,

Feel free to research the etymology beyond wikipedia. Simply googling "etymology ******" should be suffiecient.

excerpt from wiki:

Earlier variants (such as neger or negar) derive from the Spanish/Portuguese word negro, meaning "black", and probably also the French nègre, which has also been used pejoratively (but also positively as in Négritude), derived from negro (the ordinary French word for "black" being noir). Both negro and noir (and therefore also nègre and ******) ultimately come from nigrum, the accusative form of the Latin word niger (pronounced [ˈniɡer], with the final r being trilled), simply meaning "black".

In Colonial America, negars was used in 1619 by John Rolfe, describing slaves shipped to Virginia colony.[5] Neger (sometimes spelled "neggar") also prevailed in northern New York under the Dutch and also in Philadelphia, in its Moravian and Pennsylvania Dutch communities. For example, the African Burial Ground in New York City was originally known as "Begraafplaats van de Neger" (Dutch phrase meaning "Cemetery of the negro" in English).

In the United States the word ****** was not always considered derogatory,[citation needed] but was instead used by many as merely denotative of black skin, as it was in other parts of the English-speaking world. In nineteenth-century literature, there are many uses of the word ****** with no pejorative connotation. Charles Dickens, and Joseph Conrad (who published The ****** of the 'Narcissus' in 1897) used the word without racist intent. Mark Twain often put the word into the mouths of his characters, white and black, but did not use the word when writing as himself in his autobiographical Life on the Mississippi.

****** - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Or, if you prefer you can simply continue to cling to a bogus definition you read in a substandard dictionary 32 years ago. :tongue:

Takin' it Back...

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peace...
 
You makin' omelets, or what?

Some kid I used to work with called the Marines "skillets". He was just pissed cause they got all the hot tourist chics and he was left chasing the local riff raff.

Y'don't say?:cool:

Well, the word's a new one on me, anyway. The chicks? You got have those dress blues, brother .... work like a charm.:lol:

I never took any offense for “terms” for Marines, like Gyrene, Leatherneck, Jarhead, or even “crotch” for the Corps. There was only one that I took any offense at and that was “doorman”..... I guess because there’s always a Marine standing at attention to open the door at the White House or to salute at the president’s AF-2 helicopter, or to secure access to our most important buildings like American Embassies which only Marines guard. Some folks think it’s because the Marines have the “purtiest uniforms” but there's a lot more to it than that.

But just for perspective, when you see a “color guard” or “honor guard” standing as sentries at a president’s funeral, check out their rank; the lowest rank among the guards will be the Marine, likely only a L/Cpl or PFC among E-5’s or E-6’s for the others. The reason for that, IMHO is that the Corps places a lot more responsibility on the basic Marine than the others place on theirs. Furthermore, protocol directs that the senior Marine be in charge of color details.

And for people who believe that every Marine has his own pair of “dress blues”, that’s a myth. In fact every service member has to pay for their initial clothing issue. Joining in August I took Christmas leave between boot camp in San Diego and infantry training at Camp Pendleton, so I had only accrued 3 month’s pay which totaled only $234.00. paying out for the basic clothing issue I was left with only $75. for a one way ticket home. I could only afford to go by rail to Indianapolis from San Diego for $72. leaving me $3.00 for rations during the trip.
 
You've got to admit it is funny seeing Gunny adhere to such a PC rule.

That particular word predates PC by decades.
True. Do you think words lose their sting with use? I do understand your reasoning for not allowing us to call each other *******, btw.


Some do, some don't. "******" has not lost its punch because people who make a living off of racism won't let it die. It HAS however changed in meaning and use over the decades.
 
:lol:

Where did you learn that bull shit? The word ****** evolved from negro, which I'm pretty sure has something to do with race and skin color. :lol:

You are incorrect. I read it in the American Heritage dictionary in 1977, as a matter of fact.

I believe that probably is a fact... that you read such bullshit in a dictionary in 1977.

Doesn't necessarily make it correct.

For the time, it does make it correct.
 
Gunny,

Feel free to research the etymology beyond wikipedia. Simply googling "etymology ******" should be suffiecient.

excerpt from wiki:

Earlier variants (such as neger or negar) derive from the Spanish/Portuguese word negro, meaning "black", and probably also the French nègre, which has also been used pejoratively (but also positively as in Négritude), derived from negro (the ordinary French word for "black" being noir). Both negro and noir (and therefore also nègre and ******) ultimately come from nigrum, the accusative form of the Latin word niger (pronounced [ˈniɡer], with the final r being trilled), simply meaning "black".

In Colonial America, negars was used in 1619 by John Rolfe, describing slaves shipped to Virginia colony.[5] Neger (sometimes spelled "neggar") also prevailed in northern New York under the Dutch and also in Philadelphia, in its Moravian and Pennsylvania Dutch communities. For example, the African Burial Ground in New York City was originally known as "Begraafplaats van de Neger" (Dutch phrase meaning "Cemetery of the negro" in English).

In the United States the word ****** was not always considered derogatory,[citation needed] but was instead used by many as merely denotative of black skin, as it was in other parts of the English-speaking world. In nineteenth-century literature, there are many uses of the word ****** with no pejorative connotation. Charles Dickens, and Joseph Conrad (who published The ****** of the 'Narcissus' in 1897) used the word without racist intent. Mark Twain often put the word into the mouths of his characters, white and black, but did not use the word when writing as himself in his autobiographical Life on the Mississippi.

****** - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Or, if you prefer you can simply continue to cling to a bogus definition you read in a substandard dictionary 32 years ago. :tongue:

The fallacy to your argument is that you believe I "cling to some bogus definition." I merely stated what the dictionary said before you were even a wet dream.

Now if I was clinging to that definition, I wouldn't have a problem with people calling each other that, would I?

You obviously weren't around then or you wouldn't be so dumb as to make statements such as your last. There was no internet then, Einstein. We learned through books, and judging by the education some of you latecomers display, I'd say we learned a damned sight more than any of you.
 
Hopefully, we're not filtering/sensoring any words... That just seems silly, when you can simply look at the poster, and consider the source, and everyone else can see what they're really like...
 

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