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I will note one difference - Public schools are paid for locally, by property taxes, so you can limit your tax burden by having a smaller less valuable home. Particularly if you have no children. The "Public Option" tax would be national and would hit everyone, particularly the poor. Look at Social Security and Medicare - they are regressive taxes, because once your income soars you don't keep paying, it caps out.You can send your kids to the private school all you want, but you don't get to opt out of the taxes to pay for everyone who opts into the gubmint schools.
Well the Post Office is supposed to survive on its profits too, but that doesn't seem to work out in the real world.
Grubby Harry Reid's "opt out" provision works the same way you can "opt out" of sending your kids to gubmint schools.
You can send your kids to the private school all you want, but you don't get to opt out of the taxes to pay for everyone who opts into the gubmint schools.
How many states will fall for that?
Well the Post Office is supposed to survive on its profits too, but that doesn't seem to work out in the real world.
That has to do with the whole "required by law to run unprofitable routes at the same price" thing.
Well the Post Office is supposed to survive on its profits too, but that doesn't seem to work out in the real world.
That has to do with the whole "required by law to run unprofitable routes at the same price" thing.
Well the Post Office is supposed to survive on its profits too, but that doesn't seem to work out in the real world.
That has to do with the whole "required by law to run unprofitable routes at the same price" thing.
Yet the same held for monopolies such at AT&T, ComEd, etc., when grids were being laid...
That has to do with the whole "required by law to run unprofitable routes at the same price" thing.
Yet the same held for monopolies such at AT&T, ComEd, etc., when grids were being laid...
Grids which were subsidized. Also, they're allowed to charge different rates for different areas.
Grubby Harry Reid's "opt out" provision works the same way you can "opt out" of sending your kids to gubmint schools.
You can send your kids to the private school all you want, but you don't get to opt out of the taxes to pay for everyone who opts into the gubmint schools.
How many states will fall for that?
And people wonder why I dont like a 1500 page clusterfuck.
They try to hide this crap in the giant bill....kudos for shining the light dude
Grubby Harry Reid's "opt out" provision works the same way you can "opt out" of sending your kids to gubmint schools.
You can send your kids to the private school all you want, but you don't get to opt out of the taxes to pay for everyone who opts into the gubmint schools.
How many states will fall for that?
And people wonder why I dont like a 1500 page clusterfuck.
They try to hide this crap in the giant bill....kudos for shining the light dude
He's basing his "facts" on a blog that misrepresented what Reid said.
Which taxes will the states have to pay? If the public option is funded through premiums from those who are in it, how does opting out raise state taxes?
Lieberman said:Once you set a national government insurance company up, no matter what you say at the beginning, if it hits hard times, they're gonna come to the Congress to bail them out. And who's going to pay for that bailout? The taxpayers.
Which taxes will the states have to pay? If the public option is funded through premiums from those who are in it, how does opting out raise state taxes?
Well the Post Office is supposed to survive on its profits too, but that doesn't seem to work out in the real world.
BULL FUCKING SHIT.....if you worked in the PO just 6 months you would see the problem in no time....and the workers salaries and Benefits are not the problem....the Extremely bloated middle management who waste money and are accountable for the money they blow....and hinder the people who actually work in the dam place....the PMG does not answer to a board of directors who may ask him why did you do this and that which wasted millions......Union wages and benefits my ass....No. It has to do with the whole "must pay union wages and benefits" thing. Same thing has done wonders for the US auto industry.
Well the Post Office is supposed to survive on its profits too, but that doesn't seem to work out in the real world.
the PO is mandated by congress to hopefully break even ....not make a profit....a big one anyway.....
Well the Post Office is supposed to survive on its profits too, but that doesn't seem to work out in the real world.
the PO is mandated by congress to hopefully break even ....not make a profit....a big one anyway.....
It doesn't even come close to breaking even.
the PO is mandated by congress to hopefully break even ....not make a profit....a big one anyway.....
It doesn't even come close to breaking even.
blame that on management not the workers........
Which taxes will the states have to pay? If the public option is funded through premiums from those who are in it, how does opting out raise state taxes?
You are not stupid, so you are twisting. Lieberman made it clear and up to this point, he's being truthful:
Lieberman: A Public Option Would Need A Taxpayer 'Bailout' | TPM LiveWire
Lieberman said:Once you set a national government insurance company up, no matter what you say at the beginning, if it hits hard times, they're gonna come to the Congress to bail them out. And who's going to pay for that bailout? The taxpayers.
Which taxes will the states have to pay? If the public option is funded through premiums from those who are in it, how does opting out raise state taxes?
The public option will be subsidized for those making 400% of the poverty level or lower.
That is how it increases the tax burden on all of us.
I will get you a youtube video and links at some point, i posted them in another thread in response to care4all. I just forget where and didn't save the link or video on my laptop.
